wm lopez

Right off the bat you have done what every liberal does. Which is try make what I said is false and with insults. I went by what is written in the Bible.
So why would God show me mercy on my soul?

Spottedfeather

How is Last Temptation offensive ? It's one of the best Jesus movies ever made. It was about the devil tempting Jesus to let him see what it would be like if he didn't get crucified and got to live a long life. How is that offensive ? Oh, that's right. It's not. How is it any different than in the BIBLE when the devil tempted Jesus with power over the entire world (which he has already had since the beginning of time) ? It's not. This incredible movie is just a What If kind of story about Jesus getting tempted again. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

arminius

The New Jersey String Quartet Mit Pradikat.

Spottedfeather

In no way, shape, or form is the movie anti semitic. It is just telling the story about the cruxificition that was in the bible. So, you're saying that the BIBLE (which was written down by JEWS, by the way) is anti jewish ?

Spottedfeather

It wasn't awful. It is one of the best Jesus movies ever made. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it awful

Spottedfeather

When he was saying why have you forsaken me, Jesus wasn't talking about himself. He meant the human race. Specifically the people that were responsible for him being murdered.

Spottedfeather

King Arthur ? How ? He doesn't come back from the dead in any version that I've ever seen.

Spottedfeather

Excuse me ? How was Jesus what you called him in the Passion ? He's never been anything but good in any Jesus movie.

Mabuse

I voted for Last Temptation back in '09 and I stick by that, but I recently saw Pasolini's Gospel According to St. Mathew and it is fantastic. Absolutely beautiful and uses music in amazing ways. I'd heard a lot of praise for the film but no one ever commented on the music. American soul, spirituals, african chants, classical, it's really eclectic.

The photography is awsome. Every set up looks like a 1980's album cover. Black and white and Jesus and the deciples are all looking in different directions. Like U2's Joshue Tree.

Also, it is now obvious to me that Mel Gibson just took the things he liked from this film and Last Temptation and then made his own movie without any original ideas. He even filmed in the same italian village as Pasolini's film.

Supermallet

I like The Passion, but I love one scene in particular, where Jesus apparently invents a stool and mimes its use to his mother, who cannot fathom what it might be for. I adore that scene more than words could ever express.

Edit: I just rewatched that scene, guess I forgot some of the details. It's not a stool, it's a table that stands more than a foot off the ground. Still funny, but not as good as the one in my head.

Josh-da-man

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Numanoid

Not yet.

In the Arthurian legend, King Arthur is severely wounded by Mordred and ferried off to the isle of Avalon by the three maidens. It is said that he resides on Avalon awaiting the day when he is needed again, and will then return (hence why he is often referred to as the "Once and future king"). I'm sure you can see the Christ symbolism now, right?

darkhawk

Numanoid

Number 1, starman9000's right, that's not what I said.

Number 2, I'd be willing to bet that I've studied Revelation and Bible prophecy more than you have.

Number 3, why don't you address the points I made?

Dr Mabuse

Number 4, you're seriously trying to pursue a debate on this topic with WM?

MoviePage

Thank you, and God bless.

Numanoid

"Seriously"? No. I don't imagine that Mr. Lopez has ever had a debate with anyone in his life. I'm sure he runs at the first hint of anything that might cause him to question his viewpoint.

Dr Mabuse

I would say it would be more like Orwell's sheep, in that the bleating would only get more insistent and louder.

By the way, the use of 'seriously' in that sentence was not meant as a way of describing your state of mind or manner of approach to said attempt at debate.

In that usage it's a synonym for 'actually', having the same usage and meaning.

nando820

I dunno if you guys seen it but I heard "Jesus of Nazareth" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075520 its one of the best film representations of Jesus.. well I wouldn't know it haven't seen any :P maybe I'll start with that

Dr Mabuse

I own that on DVD and it is fantastic.

I mentioned it in this thread a good ways back.

I would assume it's not in the thread poll due to it being a 6+ hour miniseries that was made for television.

al_bundy

i'm split between Temptation and Passion. Each one has it's strengths and weaknesses but mostly because i don't like a lot of the 50's and 60's movies due to the fact that i think they are over acted and a bit too dramatic and grand for me.

Temptation is not based on The Bible but on a book which i think a lot of people forget. and the author grew up in a Muslim environment and they have slightly different beliefs about Jesus

when i walked out of the theater after watching Passion the first thing i thought was that it was Italian church tapestries come to life. it really seemed like Gibson spent months looking at every picture in different churches and the vatican and every scene was planned to be straight out of the artwork. you could study for a sunday school test using that movie since it's all by the numbers from catholic dogma.

wm lopez

Like which one?

wm lopez

If what you say is true how did I get banned from DVDTALK for a month?

wm lopez

The dvd transfer is just so-so. The mini-series is great.

brayzie

For me, Jesus of Nazareth 1977.

Easily the best.

The Last Temptation was too flawed, imo, to be a really great film. Well, I suppose it's a great film in what it attempts, kind of like Blade Runner pre-Final Cut. But Keitel's accent really kills it for me, and some of the music and montages seem very cliche/parodied already.

But his temptation, the crucifixion and when he's praying to his Father, were great scenes in film history.

I have no interest in seeing The Passion in it's entirety.

Anyways, Jesus of Nazareth #1, The Last Temptation #2.