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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

I don't know about the movie, but that is one of the coolest movie posters I've seen in a while. That creepy chick looks cool on bus stops.

I have her face as the background pic on my Blackberry.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Originally Posted by DonnachaOne
Here you go. I have the screenplay.
If that is really the synopsis, this movie just went to the top of my MUST SEE list.
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I read the spoilers about the twist in the movie. I kind of want to see the movie to see how the twist plays out.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Ebert's *** 1/2 out of 4 star review:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/907229993

Oddly enough, Christy Lemire from the AP who is a bit more of a tightass with her ratings also gave it a favorable 3 out of 4 stating "It's fun to see how far it will go."

Almost all of them say the first hour is very solid but then it either gets all the better or completely falls apart.

Other reviews claim it's interesting but don't like that the producers took the schlocky way out instead of going the more insightful, thoughtful way. That actually makes me want to see it. Plus it's over 2 hours and rated R, chris will be all over this one .

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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Originally Posted by RichC2
Ebert's *** 1/2 out of 4 star review:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...IEWS/907229993

Oddly enough, Christy Lemire from the AP who is a bit more of a tightass with her ratings also gave it a favorable 3 out of 4 stating "It's fun to see how far it will go."

Almost all of them say the first hour is very solid but then it either gets all the better or completely falls apart.

Other reviews claim it's interesting but don't like that the producers took the schlocky way out instead of going the more insightful, thoughtful way. That actually makes me want to see it. Plus it's over 2 hours and rated R, chris will be all over this one .
2 Hours and R-rated AND getting good reviews? Surely that is NO coincidence.

But it didnt really care to see this till just now when I did indeed find out its over 2 hours. Kick-as. Its got my attention.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

^I don't think it's a very hard R though, up here in Canada (Ontario anyhow) it's our equivalent of PG-13. (14A). I also think the only reason this movie might not lick balls is because of the director - I was pretty impressed with what he did with House of Wax (given the circumstances) and think the guy is talented. I don't have high hopes for this, but like I said earlier, with a story so horrendous, I have to see it.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Originally Posted by chris_sc77
2 Hours and R-rated AND getting good reviews? Surely that is NO coincidence.

But it didnt really care to see this till just now when I did indeed find out its over 2 hours. Kick-as. Its got my attention.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

It wasn't torture porn, but I thought it was very deserving of its R rating. I got to see it early thinking it was going to suck, but was very surprised at how it turned out. I hope it does well.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

It was actually pretty good, even knowing what was going to happen. (although they changed or cut out a few elements mentioned in donnachaone's summary that was pretty laughter inducing
Spoiler:
There is no mention of her being a prostitute to rich pedophilles and only lightly mentioned that she kills those she can't seduce. They don't really cover that she was abused as a child and her psychosexual complex only comes out in the wall drawings/sarsgaard seduction scene... plus the brother doesn't die and Esther is drowned, not shot.
I thought the performances were good and despite a heavy reliance on BOO scares, it had enough atmosphere and style to be entertaining. There were some pretty funny moments as well and a lot heavier themes than I had anticipated for this type of fare. Not the greatest thing ever but you could certainly do worse. 3 or 3.5/5 (I'm still deciding which...)
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I'm going to see this either tomorrow or on Sunday with a couple of friends.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

[mostly reposting what I said elsewhere about the movie]

This certain stinker turned out to be my favorite movie of the summer -- not that that was a difficult feat given I've only liked one other, but still!

First off, knowing the secret makes the movie better. There were any number of moments that, had I not been privy to the twist, would've bugged me, but going in fully aware allows you to soak up the demented glee that runs rampant for two straight hours. It's a weird sell to begin with: who releases a snow-covered thriller in July? That and the playfully obtuse "blacklight" company credits at the start should key you in to the fact that you're not about to watch anything too run-of-the-mill.

Standard setup (guilt-induced dream sequence over loss of a child, adoption as coping mechanism, seemingly happy home life with turmoil gurgling underneath, etc) leads inevitably to the start of our new family member's naughty behavior as little Esther cooly flattens a stunned pigeon with a large brick before basically telling her adoptive older brother that he needs to man up. Things obviously progress from there to revenge against classmates, manipulating mother and father against each other, sabotage, and of course, murder (both attempted and successful), before the Big Reveal and showdown (which thankfully! gets in the genre's obligatory rage-fueled one-liner).

The entire thing is ludicrous, everyone basks knowingly in this fact (I imagine the scriptwriters continually trying to top each other, "Oh yeah, well, what if she does THIS!") and that is precisely why it's so much goddamn fun. The best B-movies are always self-aware! Clichιs are thrown about liberally and wonderfully, but every one there's something else unexpected. The audience is toyed with, teasing them with jump-scares that never materialize and completely bonkers moments that continue piling up when you think they've just got to be leveling out soon. There's a neat sign language element along with some really fantastic visuals here, too, which was possibly most surprising of all, and the little pop diddy sung periodically throughout the movie makes for some oddly memorable scenes.

The relatively small crowd all seemed to have as good a time as I did (I was grinning from ear to ear the entire time) but it wouldn't be a shock to see this do rather poorly, which is are damn shame. Go see it and have a great time!
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Originally Posted by chris_sc77
2 Hours and R-rated AND getting good reviews? Surely that is NO coincidence.
Yes, surely it is a coincidence. You know that saying about a broken clock being right twice a day? You're living it, my friend.

There's no possible way I could enjoy this movie. That girl seems so damn obnoxious and I absolutely loathe the marketing. So even if Ebert and whomever liked it, I'm steering clear of it.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

saw it and liked it. i like how everything adds up at the end. the way she dresses and always locks the bathroom door, the ribbons she wears, why she doesn't want to go to the dentist, how she knows how to play piano already and why she seems so smart.

it's all stuff you can think back to after the ending and then know why.

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I saw it earlier today. I saw it with a couple of friends at a mall theater and it was packed. I read the original leaked script a few weeks ago. I did notice a couple of things from the original script were changed. Some of the people did say WTF ?when the twist was revealed. I heard a few people laughed at Esther's teeth. It was a well done a horror/thriller movie.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

I just got back from a 12:15am show with a pretty full theater and even though I had read the spoiler for this...I still LOVED this movie! I came out of feeling like I was totally entertained.

It was sick, disturbing, unintentionally funny, and an all around cool Camp Thriller. I saw this with an audience that just had fun with it, and I think that added a lot to the fun. I mean there were lots of laughs, clapping, uncomfortable groans and seat squirming because of certain scenes, and screams throughout the run. My only complaint is the fact that they did the...
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"oh my God something's gonna happen!!!! SIKE!!!! Bullshit a few too many times. But even with those it was still fun hearing the audience scream either way.


Isabelle Fuhrman who played "Esther" was fantastic. I mean she really sold this crazy character. Everyone else was ok but she really stole the show. I have a feeling as she gets older she's going to become a pretty good actress.

This was another fun Summer flick for me in 2009.

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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Originally Posted by Cosmic Bus
[mostly reposting what I said elsewhere about the movie]

This certain stinker turned out to be my favorite movie of the summer -- not that that was a difficult feat given I've only liked one other, but still!

First off, knowing the secret makes the movie better. There were any number of moments that, had I not been privy to the twist, would've bugged me, but going in fully aware allows you to soak up the demented glee that runs rampant for two straight hours. It's a weird sell to begin with: who releases a snow-covered thriller in July? That and the playfully obtuse "blacklight" company credits at the start should key you in to the fact that you're not about to watch anything too run-of-the-mill.

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The relatively small crowd all seemed to have as good a time as I did (I was grinning from ear to ear the entire time) but it wouldn't be a shock to see this do rather poorly, which is are damn shame. Go see it and have a great time!

Agree 100%
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Plain and simple, I liked it.
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Saw it today, a lot of fun...disturbing, intentionally and unintentionally funny, just a good time all around...much better than the terrible House of Wax
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Wow. Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I thought it was pretty bad. Had its moments, I guess, but overall, it just didn't work for me. Maybe I'm just not a fan of B-movie mentality.

Although, I might check out the inevitable direct-to-DVD sequel starring Gary Coleman.

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Saw it today as well and im pretty disappointed. I went in not knowing the twist and the part where she hops into bed with the parents i figured it out. Im never good at figuring out things so for me to correctly get it really dissapointed me. From then on i just sat there to see how it all fleshed out. Maybe didn't help that a couple brought 5 very young kids into the theater. Then the women next to me lets them know that this is a R rated movie, to which the mother replies we know this, we bring them all the time to movies like this, mind your own business. All this is taking place (loudly) during the movie.
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Re: Orphan (Collet-Serra, 2009) — Farmiga & Sarsgaard in adoption horror-thriller

Going on Thursday with my 15-year-old niece
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Originally Posted by GatorDeb
Going on Thursday with my 15-year-old niece
You do know it is an R rated movie don't you?
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Saw it today as well and im pretty disappointed. I went in not knowing the twist and the part where she hops into bed with the parents i figured it out. Im never good at figuring out things so for me to correctly get it really dissapointed me. From then on i just sat there to see how it all fleshed out. Maybe didn't help that a couple brought 5 very young kids into the theater. Then the women next to me lets them know that this is a R rated movie, to which the mother replies we know this, we bring them all the time to movies like this, mind your own business. All this is taking place (loudly) during the movie.
My friend saw the movie on Friday night and she said there were several people with young kids. I would never take a young kid to see a movie like Orphan. In the theater I was at there was a couple with girl who looked maybe 12 or 13.
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Spoiler:
Maybe she just looked 12 or 13... Muahahahahah...


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