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Daniel Craig says next Bond film will NOT be part of a trilogy

Old 12-11-08, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by emachine12
I watch Bond to see him get at least two pieces of ass a movie.
Best scene ever is in The Man with the Golden Gun, when Moore's Bond puts Mary Goodnight in the closet to bang Andrea Anders...and then wakes her up later to pick up where he left off with her the night before!

Roger Moore played his Bond just as the book set him up, as an agent who abhors killing but loves the ladies.
Here's where I disagree. I just don't see Ian Fleming's James Bond in the Moore incarnation. What amuses me, though, is Daniel Craig getting accolades for doing what Timothy Dalton was ignored for doing twenty years ago. With Moore, it was that Bond was a lover, not a fighter. Fleming's Bond outright resented the work he did, but he was great at it and kept doing it because of his sense of duty and, really, what else was he going to do? Dalton did a great job--especially in The Living Daylights--of depicting that self-loathing.

And you can still have gadgets in this day and age. You can even do updated versions of the gadgets from past Bonds. They can even take some the gadgets from the video games. Cars with an EMP rifle, watches with darts, and soda cans filled with sleeping gas. Show me those in the real world now.
The gadgets never did much for me, so I don't miss them. In fact, I always hated Q showing Bond something that was designed for really a singular, outlandish scenario and then we knew we were about ten minutes away from Bond being shoved into that very situation. I'm in favor of gadgets that have a more universal applicability. Take the briefcase in From Russia with Love. Who expected the gold sovereigns to be the bait that let Bond set off the exploding talcum powder? Hell, by the time that fight scene comes along, I'd forgotten Bond even had the thing.

I also always wanted to see Bond equipped with something and wind up using it in a completely different way. Say, the grappling line built into his belt. We see Bond being run down to a cliff of some kind, he yanks his belt off his pants, and just as we think he's going to use the grapple to swing away to freedom, he instead takes the belt and just beats the ever-loving hell out of the guy that's chasing him with it. Something brutal like that, that just completely disregards whatever it is Q Branch has equipped it to do.
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So I watched Thunderball and From Russia With Love... oddly enough, I enjoyed Thunderball more and felt FRWL was a bit slow and anticlimactic. That and the leading girl was a lot hotter in Thunderball.

Meanwhile, I rewatched QoS tonight with the girlfriend thanks to the free tickets that came with the Blu-ray's. I think I liked it more the second time around as things just seemed to make a bit more sense and clicked more with me. This time, having seen 3 of the older Bonds prior and a lot of the arguments here, made me think it wasn't too bad as far as lacking in Bond trademarks. The intro seemed to fit with women in the background despite remembering a complaint read on this forum, he throws out some one liners that brought out chuckles, beds Miss Fields quite quickly... I don't know, maybe it's because I didn't have the whole history there, but it didn't feel that out of place compared to Dr. No, From Russia, and Thunderball.

Up next for me is Live and Let Die.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
So I watched Thunderball and From Russia With Love... oddly enough, I enjoyed Thunderball more and felt FRWL was a bit slow and anticlimactic. That and the leading girl was a lot hotter in Thunderball.
Some of Daniela Bianchi's hair styles and outfits are pretty bad, but that powder blue gown she wears on the Orient Express? That's the good stuff. From Russia with Love is easy to find underwhelming the first time through. It's one that really benefits from repeat viewing. Also, its stock goes up as you watch more of the series because it's not nearly as formulaic as many of the subsequent films. Final note on it: read the Ian Fleming novel. It's better in every way, especially the gypsy girl fight.

Meanwhile, I rewatched QoS tonight with the girlfriend thanks to the free tickets that came with the Blu-ray's. I think I liked it more the second time around as things just seemed to make a bit more sense and clicked more with me. This time, having seen 3 of the older Bonds prior and a lot of the arguments here, made me think it wasn't too bad as far as lacking in Bond trademarks. The intro seemed to fit with women in the background despite remembering a complaint read on this forum, he throws out some one liners that brought out chuckles, beds Miss Fields quite quickly... I don't know, maybe it's because I didn't have the whole history there, but it didn't feel that out of place compared to Dr. No, From Russia, and Thunderball.

Up next for me is Live and Let Die.
I greatly enjoyed Quantum of Solace. As a reader of the Ian Fleming novels, I thought it did a great job capturing the feel of his works (even though it was an entirely original screenplay). It's funny, though, because the one film I immediately asked myself how it compared to when I finished watching it was From Russia with Love. Russia is a true classic, and while Quantum isn't strong enough to be on that tier, I do think it was very well crafted.

I look forward to hearing what you think of Live and Let Die, especially knowing the order in which you're watching these. There's a great newsgroup for Bond where I know you would be welcome to discuss your thoughts on the series: alt.fan.james-bond. They're a welcoming group, and love the wonder of new fans discovering 007.
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Yeah I was just thinking of starting a general Bond discussion here since i'm experiencing all of these for the first time, but I like sharing with DVDTalk and don't really care to start with newsgroups. I may actually take your recommendation and read some of the novels; I've been looking for a decent book to read anyway. Is there a specific order for the books and short stories, or any particularly good compilations?

Ideally I would have wanted to watch the movies in order of release but since the Blu-ray releases are so scattered I'm watching what I can. After Live and Let Die would have been For Your Eyes Only but that order got canceled for some reason so I need to reorder it. Not sure if i'll watch Die Another Day before that.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
So I watched Thunderball and From Russia With Love... oddly enough, I enjoyed Thunderball more and felt FRWL was a bit slow and anticlimactic. That and the leading girl was a lot hotter in Thunderball.
I'm soon going to rewatch all five original Sean Connery films again (my favorite Bond movies ever) but I agree, From Russia With Love drags a bit in places, despite having quite a few awesome moments (including the SPECTRE scenes). Rosa Klebb is a very unique villain and the fight between Connery and Shaw aboard the train is simply awesome.

I do think Thunderball has the hottest women from any 007 film. Luciana Paluzzi (Fiona Volpe) slightly edges out Claudine Auger (Domino) on my list though.

I'll also be looking forward to your fresh thoughts on a series I've watched a countless number of times since my childhood!
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
Yeah I was just thinking of starting a general Bond discussion here since i'm experiencing all of these for the first time, but I like sharing with DVDTalk and don't really care to start with newsgroups. I may actually take your recommendation and read some of the novels; I've been looking for a decent book to read anyway. Is there a specific order for the books and short stories, or any particularly good compilations?

Ideally I would have wanted to watch the movies in order of release but since the Blu-ray releases are so scattered I'm watching what I can. After Live and Let Die would have been For Your Eyes Only but that order got canceled for some reason so I need to reorder it. Not sure if i'll watch Die Another Day before that.
The Ian Fleming novels were originally published in the following order:

Casino Royale
Live and Let Die
Moonraker
Diamonds Are Forever
From Russia, with Love
Doctor No
Goldfinger
For Your Eyes Only (collection of 5 short stories)
Thunderball
The Spy Who Loved Me
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
You Only Live Twice
The Man with the Golden Gun
Octopussy (often titled Octopussy and The Living Daylights; a collection of short stories)

There actually is a semblance of continuity throughout the novels, so I would suggest reading them in order. There are other Bond books that have been written by other authors over the years, but these are where you ought to start.

As for your viewing order, I don't think it'll ruin anything to watch Die Another Day before For Your Eyes Only. There's no continuity issue at all there. Most fans agree that the first part of Die is excellent, but the last half is atrocious. The only real debate is just when the story goes from good to bad, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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