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Old 12-10-08, 10:10 AM
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I want to see Craig's Bond take down Quantum, though realistically he'd need assistance and if so...him with a team would be nice too, that'd be an epic kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Like it or not, the Bond franchise has been rebooted.
But I loved Casino Royale! I thought Quantum of Solace was "meh" (with a few exceptions) and I don't think people who had major problems with it necessarily want a return to the campy style with things like satellite lasers or whatever. There are obviously going to be some mediocre or possibly even bad entries during this reboot. I for one don't want to see every new Bond movie in the vein of QoS. Some balance is the key but maybe we agree on this point.
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
The next movie REALLY needs to get back to formula.

Movie needs to be at least 2 hours long.

Q and the gadgets need to be introduced. Also Moneypenny.

The Bond girl(s) need to be more the "damsel in distress" rather than someone that can fight along side Bond.

But most importantly, this needs to be moved back to the START of the movie:




I'm hoping that them moving it to the end of Quantum of Solace meant it was the closing of that chapter of Bond.
Forumla is the whole reason why they rebooted. The same thing in each Bond movie was getting old. It had gotten to the point where it was like a check list.

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can't wait for the next james bond movie I hope a new james bond comes soon I am not crazzy about daniel craig
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I always felt that M was a surrogate mother for Bond and Q was the surrogate father.

The latest Bond movies have made M more of an overbearing grandmother. She gets upset at Bond for the littlest of things.

And I might point out something here:

Die Another Day, Casino Royale, and Quantum of Solace all have Bond gone rogue.

I am so sick of these Bourne knockoffs. Screw realistic, that's not why I watch Bond.

I watch Bond to see him get at least two pieces of ass a movie.

I watch Bond to see him use a Quartermaster modified vehicle in spectacular fashion.

I watch Bond to see him take out the bad guy in a mind-blowing accident.

Roger Moore played his Bond just as the book set him up, as an agent who abhors killing but loves the ladies.

And you can still have gadgets in this day and age. You can even do updated versions of the gadgets from past Bonds. They can even take some the gadgets from the video games. Cars with an EMP rifle, watches with darts, and soda cans filled with sleeping gas. Show me those in the real world now.
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Originally Posted by metaridley
But I loved Casino Royale! I thought Quantum of Solace was "meh" (with a few exceptions) and I don't think people who had major problems with it necessarily want a return to the campy style with things like satellite lasers or whatever. There are obviously going to be some mediocre or possibly even bad entries during this reboot. I for one don't want to see every new Bond movie in the vein of QoS. Some balance is the key but maybe we agree on this point.

Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by emachine12
I always felt that M was a surrogate mother for Bond and Q was the surrogate father.

The latest Bond movies have made M more of an overbearing grandmother. She gets upset at Bond for the littlest of things.
"Littlest things"??? She's his BOSS for christ sake and this isn't Kinko's!

She's trying to make him a "Better Double-Oh" and keep him under control.


And I might point out something here:

Die Another Day, Casino Royale, and Quantum of Solace all have Bond gone rogue.

I am so sick of these Bourne knockoffs. Screw realistic, that's not why I watch Bond.
You forgot "License to Kill". He was rogue there too. Listen, the very things you bitch about is the very thing "Granny M" is trying stop! You don't realize it, but you're use to Bond doing his own thing...that's what he dos best right? But at the same time you want him under control and not Rogue...That's funny becaues that's what "M" wants too. You both can't be wrong.


I watch Bond to see him get at least two pieces of ass a movie.

Go watch PORN like everyone else. Not everyone wants to see Bond just to see him bust loads in helpless whores.....oh wait...maybe they do based on what I've seen on dvdtalk... so perhaps I'll give you that one.


I watch Bond to see him use a Quartermaster modified vehicle in spectacular fashion.

I watch Bond to see him take out the bad guy in a mind-blowing accident.

Roger Moore played his Bond just as the book set him up, as an agent who abhors killing but loves the ladies.
I'm just saying that all the stuff you mention had become more like a goofy Jackie Chan film stuff than a sleek Spy thriller stuff in the last several films.


And you can still have gadgets in this day and age. You can even do updated versions of the gadgets from past Bonds. They can even take some the gadgets from the video games. Cars with an EMP rifle, watches with darts, and soda cans filled with sleeping gas. Show me those in the real world now.
Fine, just don't make them into jokes in Bond films. Next people will want Bond surfing on tidal waves.

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Fine, just don't make them into jokes in Bond films. Next people will want Bond surfing on tidal waves.
Again, I don't think you understand that no one wants to see Bond surfing on tidal waves or whatever other shit was in Die Another Day. Your argument seems to be based on the idea that if it's not in the style of the latest movie, the only alternative must be Moonraker, The Man With The Golden Gun, Diamonds Are Forever, A View To A Kill, etc. I liked Licence To Kill and consider it superior to Quantum of Solace. But every Bond movie being like those two would hurt the franchise just as much as it devolving into camp for the umpteenth time.

Also, wasn't the only purpose of Fields just for Bond to get some ass? They still haven't dropped this tradition and they probably never will.
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Originally Posted by metaridley
Again, I don't think you understand that no one wants to see Bond surfing on tidal waves or whatever other shit was in Die Another Day. Your argument seems to be based on the idea that if it's not in the style of the latest movie, the only alternative must be Moonraker, The Man With The Golden Gun, Diamonds Are Forever, A View To A Kill, etc. I liked Licence To Kill and consider it superior to Quantum of Solace. But every Bond movie being like those two would hurt the franchise just as much as it devolving into camp for the umpteenth time.
I think you're taking me waaay to seriously. I'm purposely throwing out the most outrageous stuff from non-Bond films. Namely Austin Powers and Escape from LA. I liked QoS a lot so we will agree to disagree.


Also, wasn't the only purpose of Fields just for Bond to get some ass? They still haven't dropped this tradition and they probably never will.
Soooo why is anyone who wants Bond to get laid each time complaining?

But then again, they also balanced the women in QoS. We had a tough girl who he didn't bang and Fields.

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Originally Posted by emachine12

I watch Bond to see him get at least two pieces of ass a movie.
Why is this factor so important to people? Times have changed just like Woman being a damsel have changed.
Times change and so should Bond.

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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Why is this factor so important to people? Times have changed just like Woman being a damsel have changed.
Times change and so should Bond.
Two girls at once, dude.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I think you're taking me waaay to seriously. I'm purposely throwing out the most outrageous stuff from non-Bond films. Namely Austin Powers and Escape from LA. I liked QoS a lot so we will agree to disagree.
Ah.

I like to see girls of that... caliber.

By "caliber," of course, I refer to both the size of their gun barrels and the high quality of their characters... Two meanings... caliber... it's a homonym... Forget it.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Why is this factor so important to people? Times have changed just like Woman being a damsel have changed.
Times change and so should Bond.
thank you
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This is where I think they are going.
Spoiler:
The gun barrel will be back in it's usual place next time. Lots of people gripe but the end of the film is where it belonged in QOS. To me it said, "Bond is back". A return to the usual appearance of M. This was Bond's first mission, she didn't fully trust him, he was on probation. Any employer keeps an eye on a new employee. The final scene makes me believe she now has his trust, especially since he didn't kill the one person he had a right to. I don't think we will see Bond crashing through every scene like an out of control bulldozer destroying and killing everything in his path. These first two Craig films take place in a very short space of time, two weeks maybe? When next we see him two years will have pass, he's been on missions and will appear more relaxed, laid back and experienced. More nonchalant. He's got his mojo down.
Bond has never visited M's office(that we've seen). Moneypenny could have been there the whole time. After two years he has probably been there numerous times and the first time we see her they already know each other just like in Dr. No. He may already know her for all we know. She doesn't have to be "re-introduced"
I belive Q will be back also. No more comic sidekick stuff or crazy gadgets. Lethal weapons that they won't have to write a scene for him to use, part of the movie. Most likely guns that don't do anything to set up a future gag.
Back to the Quantum-Plot-Of-The-Week with a Quantum member like Greene in charge of one of their schemes. The water rights scheme in QOS was very traditional SPECTRE type stuff. Greene made me think of Largo and the facility in the desert at the climax was very traditional "big battle at villian headquarters" type climax. QOS was very traditional in several aspects. Even two, not just one, obiliquatory(sp?) sacrifical lambs(Mathis and Fields).
No more airhead or innocent bystander caught up in the plot leading ladies.
The level of violence will remain the same, probably less of it though. Bond will be just as ruthless and cold blooded but keeps it in his pocket for when needed instead of on his hip.
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Originally Posted by rw2516
This is where I think they are going.
Spoiler:
The gun barrel will be back in it's usual place next time. Lots of people gripe but the end of the film is where it belonged in QOS. To me it said, "Bond is back". A return to the usual appearance of M. This was Bond's first mission, she didn't fully trust him, he was on probation. Any employer keeps an eye on a new employee. The final scene makes me believe she now has his trust, especially since he didn't kill the one person he had a right to. I don't think we will see Bond crashing through every scene like an out of control bulldozer destroying and killing everything in his path. These first two Craig films take place in a very short space of time, two weeks maybe? When next we see him two years will have pass, he's been on missions and will appear more relaxed, laid back and experienced. More nonchalant. He's got his mojo down.
Bond has never visited M's office(that we've seen). Moneypenny could have been there the whole time. After two years he has probably been there numerous times and the first time we see her they already know each other just like in Dr. No. He may already know her for all we know. She doesn't have to be "re-introduced"
I belive Q will be back also. No more comic sidekick stuff or crazy gadgets. Lethal weapons that they won't have to write a scene for him to use, part of the movie. Most likely guns that don't do anything to set up a future gag.
Back to the Quantum-Plot-Of-The-Week with a Quantum member like Greene in charge of one of their schemes. The water rights scheme in QOS was very traditional SPECTRE type stuff. Greene made me think of Largo and the facility in the desert at the climax was very traditional "big battle at villian headquarters" type climax. QOS was very traditional in several aspects. Even two, not just one, obiliquatory(sp?) sacrifical lambs(Mathis and Fields).
No more airhead or innocent bystander caught up in the plot leading ladies.
The level of violence will remain the same, probably less of it though. Bond will be just as ruthless and cold blooded but keeps it in his pocket for when needed instead of on his hip.
I agree with this. They don't need to overthink it, and your ideas would make for a great movie.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I agree with all of this, including making Q a younger fellow who might be cheering Bond on, while still lamenting the loss of his toys (the last bit being my own addition).
When I read this, I just pictured Simon Pegg (who BTW wasn't all that bad as a spy's techie in M:I III).
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About Bond girls, I don't mind a girl who can take care of herself to some degree -- I definitely don't want a helpless fool like Tanya Roberts from AVtaK. I just don't want her kicking as much ass as Bond every time. Not for any sexist reasons, but just because Bond is the hero of the franchise, and every hero-ly duty you take out of his hands and give to someone else diminishes the character a bit.

As for gadgets, I don't think it has to be an issue of super-awesome technology every time. I like the stealthy things... guns hidden in cars, devices hidden in common objects, etc, where the technology isn't 'new' but the implementation is. Just because 'gadget-y' stuff is commonplace these days doesn't mean gadgets won't work in the series, just that they have to be implemented more creatively into the story and not just to show off something cool.
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Originally Posted by Chew
If we stripped away everything from Bruce Wayne that makes him Batman (like they did with Bond), would it really be a "Batman" movie anymore?
I think this is a perfect example. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight felt realistic, despite the fact that a billionaire dressing in a bat costume fighting a madman in face paint isn't a 'real world' concept. They sold it with the execution. There's no reason the 007 films can't find a way to implement the franchise's trademark elements without sacrificing their new 'realistic' edge.
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As for my girls comment...

Lets face it. Bond is a misogynist, and it could have stemmed from his bad relationship with Vesper Lynd.

Bond does not fall in love. He has relationships and walks away because he can.

Now Casino Royale '06 is trying to justify Bond's past indiscretions by saying Lynd was the reason for him to change.

But if you watch it again, Bond does end up hitting on two women. In fact, every Bond movie has at least two Bond girls. And if you don't think he is misogynistic: he took not only Solataire's virginity but her pyschic ability as well.

There have been two times in the entire franchise that Bond has deeply cared for a woman: On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Casino Royale.

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As for the gadgets, like I said you can still have them because Q is not just a person. Die Another Day Die established that Q is a nickname that Bond uses. Q stands for Quartermaster and MI6 has Quartermaster Labs. Now something that can be done to bring in Q is to use the same technique as Dr. No:

-The man handing Bond his Walther PPK in M's office is Major Boothroyd. Boothroyd is a Quartermaster and when Boothroyd reappears in From Russia With Love, he is called Q by Bond.-

Maybe have M introduce Bond to the Quartermaster Labs and then to Major Boothroyd who subsequently gives Bond his gun and trademark watch.

You can introduce Moneypenny in almost a similar stealth fashion, again we never really see M's office in the recent films. So have Bond meet a woman and have it akwardly turn out she is Moneypenny. The resulting interludes from then on would explain the ones in the franchise.
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I, for one, have loved the Bond Franchise. I think some have been great, some have been good, and a few have been..errr.. not great, not good, barely watchable.

BUT...

I think the last two's style and take on the franchise have been nothing more than The Bourne movies...only NOT AS GOOD!!

Being formulaic many of the times can be bad. Sometimes though, formula's can be nice.

I miss traditional bond, and wish Brosnan was still bond, or Clive Owen even!

As has been brought out before, bring back the things about Bond that have made it great. Yeah, sure change it up a bit, but keep the formula's that people loved, and MADE IT BOND!
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Ok, guys look. Craig said on Jimmy Kimmel that the gadgets are coming back and don't worry... Bond will return to "hittin' it and quittin' it" once again.
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Originally Posted by rw2516
This is where I think they are going.
Spoiler:
The gun barrel will be back in it's usual place next time. Lots of people gripe but the end of the film is where it belonged in QOS. To me it said, "Bond is back". A return to the usual appearance of M. This was Bond's first mission, she didn't fully trust him, he was on probation. Any employer keeps an eye on a new employee. The final scene makes me believe she now has his trust, especially since he didn't kill the one person he had a right to. I don't think we will see Bond crashing through every scene like an out of control bulldozer destroying and killing everything in his path. These first two Craig films take place in a very short space of time, two weeks maybe? When next we see him two years will have pass, he's been on missions and will appear more relaxed, laid back and experienced. More nonchalant. He's got his mojo down.
Bond has never visited M's office(that we've seen). Moneypenny could have been there the whole time. After two years he has probably been there numerous times and the first time we see her they already know each other just like in Dr. No. He may already know her for all we know. She doesn't have to be "re-introduced"
I belive Q will be back also. No more comic sidekick stuff or crazy gadgets. Lethal weapons that they won't have to write a scene for him to use, part of the movie. Most likely guns that don't do anything to set up a future gag.
Back to the Quantum-Plot-Of-The-Week with a Quantum member like Greene in charge of one of their schemes. The water rights scheme in QOS was very traditional SPECTRE type stuff. Greene made me think of Largo and the facility in the desert at the climax was very traditional "big battle at villian headquarters" type climax. QOS was very traditional in several aspects. Even two, not just one, obiliquatory(sp?) sacrifical lambs(Mathis and Fields).
No more airhead or innocent bystander caught up in the plot leading ladies.
The level of violence will remain the same, probably less of it though. Bond will be just as ruthless and cold blooded but keeps it in his pocket for when needed instead of on his hip.
Greene's scheme in QoS is pathetic compared to Largo's plan for nuclear destruction and extortion in Thunderball. I don't want to see the next villain plot to raise a country's tax rates or something similarly underwhelming.
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Everyone of course, realizes that these films are showing how he becomes the Bond we all know and love. Having all the bond elements already present in these films would completely disregard the point of making and doing the storylines in the first place.
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Originally Posted by metaridley
Greene's scheme in QoS is pathetic compared to Largo's plan for nuclear destruction and extortion in Thunderball. I don't want to see the next villain plot to raise a country's tax rates or something similarly underwhelming.
True, cornering water rights pales to nuclear blackmail, but it was still a traditional type Bond villian plan. SPECTRE also slums by blackmailing double agents and trafficing drugs. I'm sure they blackmailed a judge or two with photos taken in a seedy motel room. I was reminded of Largo only in that this was a QUANTUM plot with a major villian that was not the organization's leader. Of the other SPECTRE movies, Blofeld was main villian in YOLT, OHMSS and Diamonds. FRWL had SPECTRE behind it but not a single primary villian. The opera house scene also reminded me of Thunderball, the only film to have a SPECTRE "board meeting".
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Originally Posted by rw2516
True, cornering water rights pales to nuclear blackmail, but it was still a traditional type Bond villian plan. SPECTRE also slums by blackmailing double agents and trafficing drugs. I'm sure they blackmailed a judge or two with photos taken in a seedy motel room. I was reminded of Largo only in that this was a QUANTUM plot with a major villian that was not the organization's leader. Of the other SPECTRE movies, Blofeld was main villian in YOLT, OHMSS and Diamonds. FRWL had SPECTRE behind it but not a single primary villian. The opera house scene also reminded me of Thunderball, the only film to have a SPECTRE "board meeting".
I agree with you that it'd be cool to see more of Quantum in the future and various "lieutenants" as the villains before finally revealing the new Blofeld.
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Unless it's Mr. White, which would be interesting IMO.

The opera house scene is one of the only parts of QoS I really liked. It would've been nice to see more of the organization.

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