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Roger Ebert's The Best 20 Films of 2008
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...812059997/1023
Long article including 5 additional documentaries, clicky link. For the impatient, here is the list in alphabetical order: "Ballast" "The Band's Visit" "Che" "Chop Shop" "The Dark Knight" "Doubt" "The Fall" "Frost/Nixon" "Frozen River" "Happy-Go-Lucky" "Iron Man" "Milk" "Rachel Getting Married" "The Reader" "Revolutionary Road" "Shotgun Stories" "Slumdog Millionaire" "Synecdoche, New York" "W." "WALL-E" |
Iron Man and W. are a couple of shockers. I figured Iron Man would be forgotten by critics at the end of the year, and W. wasn't anything that special.
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The Wrestler is conspicuously absent.
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One thing that caught my eye was that Che was a four hour movie. That's nuts.
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Originally Posted by NoirFan
(Post 9116889)
The Wrestler is conspicuously absent.
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Originally Posted by Boba Fett
(Post 9116897)
I don't think he's seen it yet, as I've yet to see a review. The same could be said for Gran Torino, since it's pretty much a given Ebert will give it 4-Stars and call it a masterpiece.
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I've heard of 7 of those.
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Originally Posted by Dean Kousoulas
(Post 9116908)
So why couldn't Ebert hold off on this list for another week or 2 then?
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Originally Posted by outcastja
(Post 9116893)
One thing that caught my eye was that Che was a four hour movie. That's nuts.
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Interested in -
"Che" "The Fall" "Frost/Nixon" "Milk" "Rachel Getting Married" "Slumdog Millionaire" "Synecdoche, New York" "W." Only these I have been lucky enough to have seen. "Iron Man" "The Dark Knight" "WALL-E" The others . . . well maybe I will be interested when I read more about them . . . |
Ebert saw The Wrestler at the Toronto Film Festival. He wrote about the Mickey Rourke comeback in September. He should have seen both Gran Torino and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button by now since they have been screened for critics and they have won awards from the National Board of Review. I think it says a lot that nether were on this top 20 list along with The Wrestler. I've been hearing mixed about Button and Torino, but I've heard nothing but great things about The Wrestler.
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Originally Posted by Boba Fett
(Post 9116884)
Iron Man and W. are a couple of shockers. I figured Iron Man would be forgotten by critics at the end of the year, and W. wasn't anything that special.
In retrospect, I am inclined to agree with him, but I would like to see TDK one more time. |
Looks like Ebert is trying to shake up the world of film criticism again? Choosing 10 over 20 doesn't make the list about "chopping." Someone could say the same thing about picking the top 20, or even 30, films of the year. Top 10 not only sounds good, but it is intensely exclusive. Top 20 also shows how 4-star-happy Eager is.
And not ordering the movies? Please. Ebert's entitled to list movies however he wants, but don't say that "nobody" can quantify a list, and that "we all pretend to." Most critics will look at a bunch of movies that they give 4-stars to, and ask themselves "which one has the edge?" You know, kind of like the Academy Awards. By just throwing 20 movies into a list, I really don't get a huge sense of which were the best. But to each his own, I just didn't care for this format at all. |
Great to see Frozen River and Shotgun Stories on his list. Definitely among the best "small" films this year. :up: In a perfect world, Melissa Leo would be up on stage in February for her role in Frozen River, but she probably won't even be nominated since it's such an unseen movie.
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"Let The Right One In", "Recount", "Waltzing with Bashir". Three great movies unlisted.
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where's SNOW ANGELS? that's great news that SHOTGUN STORIES ended up on there.
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Originally Posted by BullGooseLoony
(Post 9117176)
Looks like Ebert is trying to shake up the world of film criticism again? Choosing 10 over 20 doesn't make the list about "chopping." Someone could say the same thing about picking the top 20, or even 30, films of the year. Top 10 not only sounds good, but it is intensely exclusive. Top 20 also shows how 4-star-happy Eager is.
And not ordering the movies? Please. Ebert's entitled to list movies however he wants, but don't say that "nobody" can quantify a list, and that "we all pretend to." Most critics will look at a bunch of movies that they give 4-stars to, and ask themselves "which one has the edge?" You know, kind of like the Academy Awards. By just throwing 20 movies into a list, I really don't get a huge sense of which were the best. But to each his own, I just didn't care for this format at all. |
All I have to say, is that 2008 was a terrible year for movies.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
(Post 9117436)
All I have to say, is that 2008 was a terrible year for movies.
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I'm kinda shocked neither Wrestler or Torino is on there; both of which I would consider infinitely superior to Iron Man. To each their own of course.
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Originally Posted by JustinS
(Post 9116868)
"Ballast"
"The Band's Visit" "Che" "Chop Shop" "The Dark Knight" "Doubt" "The Fall" "Frost/Nixon" "Frozen River" "Happy-Go-Lucky" "Iron Man" "Milk" "Rachel Getting Married" "The Reader" "Revolutionary Road" "Shotgun Stories" "Slumdog Millionaire" "Synecdoche, New York" "W." "WALL-E" Chop Shop and Frozen River sound amazing. Ballast, so far, is my pick for movie of the year. Che is right after it. |
Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
(Post 9117436)
All I have to say, is that 2008 was a terrible year for movies.
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Loved
"Slumdog Millionaire" "The Dark Knight" "Iron Man" Want to see "The Fall" "Frost/Nixon" "Milk" "The Band's Visit" "Synecdoche, New York" "W." Hated "WALL-E" Never or barely heard of, but want to see now "Ballast" "Che" "Chop Shop" "Doubt" "Frozen River" "Happy-Go-Lucky" "Rachel Getting Married" "The Reader" "Revolutionary Road" "Shotgun Stories" |
I've only seen eight from his list, but as it is I think it's a pretty great list, with nothing that immediately stands out to me as being completely undeserving of being ranked so highly (even if I myself would not rank them as highly.) "Happy-Go-Lucky" and "Wall-E" are probably my two favorites, but I enjoyed them all to some extent. All of the rest were already on my "Must See" list, and now I'm even more excited to see them.
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Originally Posted by NoirFan
(Post 9117446)
How so? The Wrestler, Che, Milk, Revolutionary Road and Doubt have barely been released yet, not to mention all of the other quality films like Slumdog, Let the Right One In, Frozen River and Frost/Nixon. This is shaping up to be one of the best years in recent memory.
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