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EinCB 03-18-15 05:08 PM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 
I like all 3 films, including Jackie Brown. I think a lot of moviegoers were expecting the same, zany twists Pulp Fiction had which the former did not have. Jackie Brown, to me, seemed more down-to-earth. Although I felt like it could have been tightly more edited, I don't pass on it when IFC shows it.

Overall, give me Pulp Fiction.

mrhan 03-18-15 06:06 PM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12426234)
Red clearly states in the movie that he's Irish. That's why he's called "Red".

Yeah, I know that but in the novella "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption" the two characters physical description are totally different.

"When Andy came to Shawshank in 1948, he was thirty years old. He was a short neat little man with sandy hair and small, clever hands. He wore gold rimmed spectacles..."

Count Dooku 03-18-15 06:10 PM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 

Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12426540)
Who's making negative comments? Saying Jackie Brown is a better movie doesn't mean Pulp Fiction sucks.

The claim that any movie made in the 1990s is better than Pulp Fiction is an insult to Pulp Fiction.

inri222 03-18-15 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12426540)
Who's making negative comments? Saying Jackie Brown is a better movie doesn't mean Pulp Fiction sucks.

:up:


Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 12426594)
The claim that any movie made in the 1990s is better than Pulp Fiction is an insult to Pulp Fiction.

Lost Highway / Crash / Eyes Wide Shut > Pulp Fiction

hanshotfirst1138 03-18-15 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12426540)
Who's making negative comments? Saying Jackie Brown is a better movie doesn't mean Pulp Fiction sucks.

This is the Internet. Everything either sucks or is awesome. There isn't any inbetween.

Hokeyboy 03-18-15 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 12426594)
The claim that any movie made in the 1990s is better than Pulp Fiction is an insult to Pulp Fiction.

Pulp Fiction is a great movie. But the best movie of the 90s? It wasn't even the best movie of 1994 (which would be 'Quiz Show') and trails behind Kieslowski's Three Colors Trilogy. But I'd put it in the Top 10.

mrhan 03-18-15 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 12426756)
Pulp Fiction is a great movie. But the best movie of the 90s? It wasn't even the best movie of 1994 (which would be 'Quiz Show') and trails behind Kieslowski's Three Colors Trilogy. But I'd put it in the Top 10.

It belongs in the top 10 but to me it isn't no. 1. My favorite movie of 1994 is Once Were Warriors and most people haven't even heard of it.

Ash Ketchum 03-19-15 05:48 AM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 
Best movie of 1994:

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/...6/M2176125.jpg

hanshotfirst1138 03-19-15 07:55 AM

Is the German release uncut with English subs?

Crocker Jarmen 03-19-15 09:15 AM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 
I remember 1994 being a stellar year for movies, there were a ton of noteable movies released that year:
Pulp Fiction
Ed Wood
Farewell My Concubine
Quiz Show
Red and White
Bullets Over Broadway
Bandit Queen
The Crow
Wolf
Interview With The Vampire
True Lies
Speed
Natural Born Killers
Exotica.

It was an exciting time to be going to the movies.

Michael Corvin 03-19-15 09:47 AM

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^ you forgot a little movie called The Lion King. I hear it did alright at the box office. Forrest Gump was kind of a thing too. :)

1994 was awesome.

JCWBobC 03-20-15 06:25 AM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 
I was wondering why Forrest Gump wasn't on that list. Gump wasn't in the same league as PF and SR but it did win a bunch of awards that year.

Hokeyboy 03-20-15 06:33 AM

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Forrest Gump? Yecch...

Paff 03-20-15 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 12426319)
It would be interesting to know how many of the posters making negative comments about Pulp Fiction are over 40 years old.

Where are you going with this? That someone who is over 40 is an "old fuddy-duddy" and doesn't appreciate new cinema like Pulp Fiction? I'm well over 40, and PF is my all-time favorite movie. Probably because that means I was in my 20s when it actually came out. I think if you want to attach age as a factor, you'd have to go much older. Jeez, it's been more than 20 years since that movie came out!

Pulp gets slagged a bit now because there were so many (inferior) copies of the film, well, pretty much to this day. Anytime we see a self-referential film, where characters talk about actual pop culture, it's Pulp Fiction's influence. It does indeed get old after a while, and we're tempted to blame the source. But it was the movie that put independent cinema into the mainstream.

Rival11 03-20-15 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12427078)
I remember 1994 being a stellar year for movies, there were a ton of noteable movies released that year:
Pulp Fiction
Ed Wood
Farewell My Concubine
Quiz Show
Red and White
Bullets Over Broadway
Bandit Queen
The Crow
Wolf
Interview With The Vampire
True Lies
Speed
Natural Born Killers
Exotica.

It was an exciting time to be going to the movies.

1994 was the first full year I was in the military - I remember all of these damn movie being released and going to see one after the other at the theaters in chula vista - doesn't even really feel like that long ago either.

Brack 03-20-15 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JCWBobC (Post 12428078)
I was wondering why Forrest Gump wasn't on that list. Gump wasn't in the same league as PF and SR but it did win a bunch of awards that year.

Gump was great and still is. Was it the best movie that year? No, but it made everyone in the Academy feel good, so it won.

Crocker Jarmen 03-20-15 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JCWBobC (Post 12428078)
I was wondering why Forrest Gump wasn't on that list. Gump wasn't in the same league as PF and SR but it did win a bunch of awards that year.

I was just jotting down as many of the significant movies of 1994 that I could remember. Forrest Gump definitely belongs on such a list. I didn't care for it, but it was one of the biggest films of the year, showcased a ton of new digital effects, and was discussed and referenced just as much if not more than Pulp Fiction. People could not shut up about Forrest Gump back in 1994. Everywhere you went you heard "Run Forrest, run" jokes.

mrhan 03-20-15 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12428742)
People could not shut up about Forrest Gump back in 1994. Everywhere you went you heard "Run Forrest, run" jokes.

Plus, there's that shitty restaurant now to remind you of the movie.

mrhan 03-20-15 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12427015)
Is the German release uncut with English subs?

I would like to know, too. The best release is still the LD.

EinCB 03-20-15 11:11 PM

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Also, I just noticed that The Dark Knight is not one of the poll options. What gives?

Spoiler:
;)

The Bus 03-22-15 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rival11 (Post 12428405)
1994 was the first full year I was in the military - I remember all of these damn movie being released and going to see one after the other at the theaters in chula vista - doesn't even really feel like that long ago either.

Most of this year's newly minted college graduates will have no memories of 1994.

Count Dooku 03-22-15 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paff (Post 12428404)
Where are you going with this? That someone who is over 40 is an "old fuddy-duddy" and doesn't appreciate new cinema like Pulp Fiction? I'm well over 40, and PF is my all-time favorite movie. Probably because that means I was in my 20s when it actually came out. I think if you want to attach age as a factor, you'd have to go much older. Jeez, it's been more than 20 years since that movie came out!

Pulp gets slagged a bit now because there were so many (inferior) copies of the film, well, pretty much to this day. Anytime we see a self-referential film, where characters talk about actual pop culture, it's Pulp Fiction's influence. It does indeed get old after a while, and we're tempted to blame the source. But it was the movie that put independent cinema into the mainstream.

You read my comment as the exact opposite of what it meant.

You had to be an adult in 1994 to be able to fully appreciate (and remember 20 years later) what a watershed film Pulp Fiction was on the movie landscape. If you are under 40, your entire life experience as an adult film-goer has happened in a post-PF world. How many people born after 1960 truly understand the greatness of Jonas Salk?

Count Dooku 03-22-15 10:31 AM

Re: Pulp Fiction Vs The Shawshank Redemption
 

Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12427078)
I remember 1994 being a stellar year for movies, there were a ton of noteable movies released that year:

You can see the list in the OP.

It was an exciting time to be going to the movies.

I agree, and there are more great 1994 movies that I could list.

I'm not going to endeavor to post a critical history of Hollywood film-making in the last quarter of the 20th century in this forum, but consider this question:

Why is Citizen Kane lauded as the best American movie ever made, when it is far from the most popular, beloved, or most entertaining movie, not just of the 20th century, but even of the years from 1939-43?

Something else to think about:
Why does this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_%28album%29 exist?

Pulp Fiction is the best movie of the 1990s, not because of what you see on the screen when you watch it in 2015 (although what you see on the screen is still pretty fucking fantastic), but because of its aesthetic impact on, and historical importance to, the entire American film-making industry.

I won't post anymore about this.

Abob Teff 03-22-15 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12424932)
You don't fucking say?

A 6 year bump? The new guys are trying too hard.

Well, the new guy did more than double the number of posts in here. The thread's initial run was at 48 when he bumped it. He's on to something!

Abob Teff 03-22-15 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12425010)
Pulp Fiction isn't even the best movie Tarantino made in the '90s.The real answer is Jackie Brown.

Another "This."


Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12425229)

Holy shit ... So Tarantino is the one who invented the fucking duck-lip look on social media!


Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen (Post 12426234)
Red clearly states in the movie that he's Irish. That's why he's called "Red".

He was the first famous Irish black man. Our President Barak O'Bama is the second.


Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 12426319)
It would be interesting to know how many of the posters making negative comments about Pulp Fiction are over 40 years old.

Will be 40 in a few weeks and have never understand the fascination with Pulp Fiction.


Originally Posted by Count Dooku (Post 12429464)
How many people born after 1960 truly understand the greatness of Jonas Salk?

Not sure which brother he is, but I'm not a fan of their music. ;)


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