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Old 11-12-08, 12:54 AM
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Deer hunter and Born on the 4th of july ...oh, and Do the Right Thing
Isn't any Spike Lee Film (not joint, I fucking hate that) a manipulative, heavy-handed, jam-the-message-down-your-throat kind of movie?
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Damn you!!!

Damn you to heck!!!

That may be the most accurate war movie ever made. Directly from the book, with the man who wrote the book and vets from the actual fight on the set to insure accuracy.
Which is why they shot the Vietnam War sections in California?

The book, We Were Soldiers... Once and Young is greatness. Insight from both sides of the battle and breathing detail that couldn't be found anywhere else.

The movie is laughable melodrama.
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Damn you!!!

Damn you to heck!!!

That may be the most accurate war movie ever made. Directly from the book, with the man who wrote the book and vets from the actual fight on the set to insure accuracy.
Accurate or not the movie still sucks ass.
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Originally Posted by MaxMFP
Seriously, why are so many people here name-dropping Wall-E?

It wasn't overly, heavy-handed at all.

I'm guessing most of the people who think it is are overly fat. And they probably have children.
Did we see the same movie?

Wall-E is the definition of this thread's title.

And I'm not overly fat or have kids thank you very much. Nice comment there.
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Originally Posted by RagingBull80
Isn't any Spike Lee Film (not joint, I fucking hate that) a manipulative, heavy-handed, jam-the-message-down-your-throat kind of movie?
What was the "message" in Inside Man?
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Old 11-12-08, 08:36 AM
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Crash and Walle are the first ones I thought of.

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Plenty of ones already mentioned...and I'd like to add The Contender.

Especially the last few scenes.
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There is no more shamless, manipulative, heavy-handed, "shove their message like a cock down your throat"-movie than Forrest Gump: a film so broadly embraced by Americans, it confirmed every broad, obnoxious stereotype of American idiocy and apathy.

That having been said, I have never seen a more horrifically shamless scene than the one at the end of Volcano, where the precocious youngster with the oh-so-adorable speech impediment announces that, when covered with volcanic ash, EVERYONE IS THE SAME COLOR. I wanted to raise Sir Laurence Olivier from the dead and have him drill holes in that kid's teeth right then and there. That'll give him a speech impediment alright.

And while I'm full of rage, how about Brett Ratner (*shiver*) and his magnum opus Family Man? Total piece of shit movie, the cinematic equivalent of watching Dom Deluise receiving a blumpkin, but AGAIN we have not only the adorable and precocious little girl with pigtails and a lisp who is insightful and cute and oh so precious, and wait there's Don Cheadle as the "Magical Mystical Negro". Good Lord. And there are a scant few on the Internet who wonder why, when Ratner is attached to any project, they start frothing at the mouth and falling over backwards. This movie is a gooey, messy, liquified bowel movement with chunks of dead baby in it.

And while I-- I-- *thorazine takes effect*....
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How about The Visitor (2007) with its immigration message?

A couple of Rob Reiner films: The American President and A Few Good Men

But the all-time BIGGEST offender IMO is ...

FAST FOOD NATION

(although Crash might challenge it as the worst)


edit: thought of another one... Into the Wild

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Hell, just about every Oliver Stone film...and has been mentioned, just about every Spike Lee flick
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Sarcasm, FTW
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I must be ignorant, but can someone explain the heavy handed message behind Forrest Gump. All i got out of it was that girls are whores who when they eventually get aids will come running back to the now rich dumb kid who has pined over them his entire life so he can pay for their medical care.
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Although there are plenty of offenders, Crash was definitely the first thing that came to mind before I even clicked on the thread to read it. I've never felt more intellectually insulted in my life.
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I feel like I'm the only person on planet Earth that feels this way, but this is exactly what I thought 10 minutes into American Psycho. I just wanted to yell at the screen, "OK! I get it!" But instead, I have to endure the same message repeated over and over. I couldn't wait for it to end.

Oh and now that I think about it, Requiem for a Dream is the exact same way. The message in that movie:

Spoiler:
Drugs are bad for you.


was as elusive as a Stanley Kubrick film. (That's sarcasm by the way.)
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What was the heavy handed message in The Life of David GAle? I remember seeing it some time back but didn't really feel there was a heavy handed message.
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Originally Posted by rennervision
I feel like I'm the only person on planet Earth that feels this way, but this is exactly what I thought 10 minutes into American Psycho. I just wanted to yell at the screen, "OK! I get it!" But instead, I have to endure the same message repeated over and over. I couldn't wait for it to end.

Oh and now that I think about it, Requiem for a Dream is the exact same way. The message in that movie:

Spoiler:
Drugs are bad for you.


was as elusive as a Stanley Kubrick film. (That's sarcasm by the way.)
In that vein

Spun
Hard Candy

Respectively meth and underage girls are bad.
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I just saw Do The Right Thing in class today. I'm confused as to how the movie could end so lightly based on that Mookie did what he did to the pizza place? And what did him doing that solve?
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Damn you!!!

Damn you to heck!!!

That may be the most accurate war movie ever made. Directly from the book, with the man who wrote the book and vets from the actual fight on the set to insure accuracy.
My dad loves the movie because it is so accurate. There were many times I'd get home to him blowing out the speakers watching it three sheets to the wind.

I didn't care for it as the movie, as a movie, wasn't particularly good. And yes, there was cheese, lots of it.
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Originally Posted by d2cheer
What was the heavy handed message in The Life of David GAle? I remember seeing it some time back but didn't really feel there was a heavy handed message.
I remember it as

Spoiler:
Death penalty=bad because an innocent person could be killed.


There might be more to it than that, but it's been awhile since I watched it.


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