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Best Planet of the Apes Sequel
With the upcoming Blu set, and the original version of Conquest making its debut, I was wondering what is the favorite of the Planet of the Apes sequels.
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Escape From the Planet of the Apes is my favorite of the sequels. I love them all though.
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I went with Conquest, I always like the revolt of it.
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Voted for Conquest of the Pklanet of the Apes.
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ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES (1971) is best out of the four sequels.
All the others, Beneath, Conquest, and Battle are so damned boring! ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES (1971) is funny, it's charming, and plus you just can't beat the chemistry between Roddy McDowall and Kim Hunter. This was the only film in which the two actors were together after the original. The opening is cool too, when they emerge out of Charlton Heston's old space vehicle, take off their helmets and reveal themselves to the 1971 Earth humans, and the uber-cool 1970's jazz music plays in the background. |
Beneath -- just because that ending is so darned bleak it's kind of amazing, and there's a nihilism to the whole show that impresses me.
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
(Post 8966019)
Voted for Conquest of the Pklanet of the Apes.
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Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
(Post 8966033)
ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES (1971) is best out of the four sequels.
The opening is cool too, when they emerge out of Charlton Heston's old space vehicle, take off their helmets and reveal themselves to the 1971 Earth humans, and the uber-cool 1970's jazz music plays in the background. Conquest had such a different look to it, and really took the series to a place I never expected, making POTA the most diverse movie series ever IMHO. |
Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
(Post 8966033)
ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES (1971) is best out of the four sequels.
Cast your vote! I'm still the only vote so far for Escape :helpme: |
Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
(Post 8966115)
Beneath -- just because that ending is so darned bleak it's kind of amazing, and there's a nihilism to the whole show that impresses me.
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Escape, followed by Conquest and Beneath (soley for the apeshit (pun intended) conclusion).
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1) Escape
2) Conquest 3) Beneath 4) Battle Tim Burton's "remake" never happened. |
I went with Escape. I kind of think Beneath was an abomination but sometimes I dig that. That said I like Escape out of the sequels because it did a great job of "fixing" what went wrong with Beneath.
Hasslein (or anyone who can answer) what do you mean by "original Conquest making its debut"? Is it going to be different from the last set that came in the Ape Bust? |
Yes, it's the more violent preview cut, 8 minutes longer, and trims the tacked on ADR in the climax of the film, at the end of Caesar's speech, where he backs down from his calling for ultimate bloodshed against the human race. Both versions will be on the disc, but word is it will only be on BD, no SD planned.
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POTA has always been one of my favorite series of movies. That said, I've never understood some of the animosity towards Beneath. I'd rank them as:
1) Beneath 2) Conquest (very close) 3) Escape (has some good parts but not nearly as good as the first two) 4) Battle (Another step down the ladder, merely a retread of Beneath with a lower budget and worse acting) I've always wanted to see the original ending of Conquest - I didn't think it really existed though - I'll be upset if it is Blu only though. Michael |
Escape wins easily for me. I didn't even take a moment to consider any of the other titles. I loved that movie ever since I was a wee lad.
I don't think the Tim Burton version counts as a sequel, though. One thing I did notice when watching them back to back on DVD, though (sans the Burton version) is that it seems once you are done with the last one, it feels like the first one picks up where the last one left off...kind of making the first one feel like a sequel of the last one. So Battle For the Planet of the Apes is actually a prequel, if I recall right. It may not have been a great movie, but it gives the series a complete feel to me. |
Oops! (I missed the message describing the original ending of Conquest)
I voted Beneath - just love that nihilistic ending (and having more Heston if only for a few minutes of screen time). (The only real drawbacks with Beneath for me are the lack of Roddy McDowall, the cheap extra's masks, and the too thinly disguised "Vietnam protesters". Despite these flaws, it still has, IMO, the best storyline of all the sequels.) |
Beneath the Planet of the Apes, with the Bomb Hymns and all that jazz...
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I love the social commentary of Escape, though the riot scenes in Conquest are pretty chilling.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
(Post 8966702)
1) Escape
2) Conquest 3) Beneath 4) Battle Tim Burton's "remake" never happened. What Tim Burton remake? LA LA LA LA LA Never heard of it LA LA LA LA Nope LA LA LA LA |
Conquest
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
(Post 8966908)
I don't think the Tim Burton version counts as a sequel, though.
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Conquest was always my favorite.
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Originally Posted by hasslein
(Post 8967302)
I wanted to find out what was the favorite of the films other than the original, ....
But compared to the other films....I'd still place the original at top, Escape second, Beneath third, and then I'd plug Burton's version in the list, and then Conquest, and last but not least: Battle. |
I liked the Burton version. Guess that makes me an ass.
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I liked the Burton remake as well. It was competent and entertaining. Not a great film like the original but it didn't try to be. The ending made no sense except to set up a sequel that we will never see.
The best sequel is Escape from..... |
I thought it was so funny that Fox included a card in the dvd release explaining the ending of the Burton film. I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. A lot of people complain about the ending, but that was the only part of the film that worked for me. (And the opening credit sequence) The original couldn't have been topped, so the nod to the book was the best possible way to go. Other than making a sequel, which is the path that should have been taken IMHO.
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It would be between Escape and Conquest for me. I like how much more bleak and violent Conquest is, though I admit Escape might be a better film. I guess I'll vote Conquest.
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Originally Posted by hasslein
(Post 8968360)
I thought it was so funny that Fox included a card in the dvd release explaining the ending of the Burton film. I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. A lot of people complain about the ending, but that was the only part of the film that worked for me. (And the opening credit sequence) The original couldn't have been topped, so the nod to the book was the best possible way to go. Other than making a sequel, which is the path that should have been taken IMHO.
And what was the ending in the book? |
The Card is titled
TIME DOES NOT TRAVEL IN A STRAIGHT LINE THROUGH AN ELECTROMAGNETIC STORM An illustration of this idea is underneath then ten plot points are listed. Spoiler:
The end of the novel in a nutshell- Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by hasslein
(Post 8969887)
The end of the novel in a nutshell-
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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