"This film contains depictions of tobacco consumption"
09-25-08, 04:22 PM
#26
When I read this post, I was unaware that the trailer was 2:26 in length. I thought sometime during like, the middle of the trailer, somewhere actually intrusive to the image, this message would appear. Since neither of these things are true, who cares?
I'll agree that maybe it's unnecessary -- I thought we were putting it in the ratings descriptors, like Rated PG-13 for violence, sexuality and smoking, I've seen that on a few movies -- but it was in the damn billing block. On that particular YouTube video I couldn't even read it, and I doubt had I seen the trailer in the theater, I'd have even noticed it.
I'll agree that maybe it's unnecessary -- I thought we were putting it in the ratings descriptors, like Rated PG-13 for violence, sexuality and smoking, I've seen that on a few movies -- but it was in the damn billing block. On that particular YouTube video I couldn't even read it, and I doubt had I seen the trailer in the theater, I'd have even noticed it.
10-03-08, 02:37 PM
#27
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Yeah pre-70's or so movies are not the issue; it's the 90's plus movies that torque me. Ex. My Best Friend's Wedding w/ Julia Roberts, movie merit aside, when Julia's character stressed out about her best friend getting married, what did the writers have her do? Go out in the hallway and smoke furiously.
Such a great scene. {sarcasm, finally!}
10-03-08, 03:00 PM
#28
Needs to contact an admin about multiple accounts
actually, you can credit and thank the MPAA for this. i freelance at the trailer house that cut this one. the studio (our client) was given a choice to have this preview approved for all audiences (green band, as opposed to red band), either lose the shot of the bald guy smoking, or add the disclaimer.
10-03-08, 03:45 PM
#29
DVD Talk Legend
Hey I wasn't being sarcastic! I loathe smokers. Go figure & "you deal with it"
Yeah pre-70's or so movies are not the issue; it's the 90's plus movies that torque me. Ex. My Best Friend's Wedding w/ Julia Roberts, movie merit aside, when Julia's character stressed out about her best friend getting married, what did the writers have her do? Go out in the hallway and smoke furiously.
Such a great scene. {sarcasm, finally!}
Yeah pre-70's or so movies are not the issue; it's the 90's plus movies that torque me. Ex. My Best Friend's Wedding w/ Julia Roberts, movie merit aside, when Julia's character stressed out about her best friend getting married, what did the writers have her do? Go out in the hallway and smoke furiously.
Such a great scene. {sarcasm, finally!}
In real life, I'd much rather witness someone smoking a cigarette "furiously" in the "hallway", rather than watch the same person gut another other from head to anus with a boat-hook...
10-03-08, 04:04 PM
#30
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Let's be serious and not compare smoking in movies to killings as a criteria. My focus is on mainstream family movies that show gratuitous smoking For No Good Reason.
10-03-08, 05:09 PM
#31
DVD Talk Legend
we watched Baby Mama last weekend and noticed the ratings screen said it had a "Drug Reference" - so we paid attention to see what warranted such a warning...it was Amy Poehler asking "what's the street name of this stuff" after given a sedative in the hospital 
in other words, the MPAA is a puritanical group of insane people who must protect the children!
in other words, the MPAA is a puritanical group of insane people who must protect the children!
10-03-08, 05:11 PM
#32
DVD Talk Legend
Hey I wasn't being sarcastic! I loathe smokers. Go figure & "you deal with it"
Yeah pre-70's or so movies are not the issue; it's the 90's plus movies that torque me. Ex. My Best Friend's Wedding w/ Julia Roberts, movie merit aside, when Julia's character stressed out about her best friend getting married, what did the writers have her do? Go out in the hallway and smoke furiously.
Such a great scene. {sarcasm, finally!}
Yeah pre-70's or so movies are not the issue; it's the 90's plus movies that torque me. Ex. My Best Friend's Wedding w/ Julia Roberts, movie merit aside, when Julia's character stressed out about her best friend getting married, what did the writers have her do? Go out in the hallway and smoke furiously.
Such a great scene. {sarcasm, finally!}
would have been much better to have her sit down and take her bible out to gain comfort from the lord.
10-03-08, 06:22 PM
#33
DVD Talk Legend
Are you OK with smoking in non-"mainstream family movies" or does it irk you to the point of self-righteous indignation as well ("ALL SMOKERS ARE DEGENERATE UNRELATABLE ADDICTED LOWLIFEES!!")? And again, do you get this worked about Violence? Sex? Crochet? What else do you want to protect the children from?
10-03-08, 06:31 PM
#34
DVD Talk Godfather
Yeah, first thing I thought. In many cases it makes perfect sense for characters to smoke, whether by character or because of certain situations since it's an accurate depiction of real life. That's hardly "no good reason."
10-09-08, 10:10 PM
#35
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Spielberg and his walkie talkies were just the beginning.
10-10-08, 06:16 AM
#36
The counterargument is that just because people smoke in real life doesn't mean it has to be included in a movie. I'm anti-smoking, and I dislike seeing people light up, just like in reality. Some people smoke during times of stress, but I don't. Admittedly there is a line at which it becomes unrealistic, but my point is, for instance, if Julia Roberts had NOT gone out and smoked, that doesn't take you out of the movie somehow. It's not like the lack of smoking in normal situations is somehow unrealistic or jarring. I'm not puritanical and I have no religious, political or other nutty reasoning for disliking smoking, but it also would distance me from a character to see them smoke.
My feeling is that if the sequence could go either way, I personally would prefer there not to be smoking in a movie. I don't need it to be erased from classic films, but there are just characters who, based on the world they're placed in, would and should smoke, and characters that only could smoke, like the Julia Roberts character, and I don't feel it's necessary to have the latter characters smoke.
My feeling is that if the sequence could go either way, I personally would prefer there not to be smoking in a movie. I don't need it to be erased from classic films, but there are just characters who, based on the world they're placed in, would and should smoke, and characters that only could smoke, like the Julia Roberts character, and I don't feel it's necessary to have the latter characters smoke.
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10-10-08, 07:34 AM
#37
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
The counterargument is that just because people smoke in real life doesn't mean it has to be included in a movie. I'm anti-smoking, and I dislike seeing people light up, just like in reality. Some people smoke during times of stress, but I don't. Admittedly there is a line at which it becomes unrealistic, but my point is, for instance, if Julia Roberts had NOT gone out and smoked, that doesn't take you out of the movie somehow. It's not like the lack of smoking in normal situations is somehow unrealistic or jarring. I'm not puritanical and I have no religious, political or other nutty reasoning for disliking smoking, but it also would distance me from a character to see them smoke.
My feeling is that if the sequence could go either way, I personally would prefer there not to be smoking in a movie. I don't need it to be erased from classic films, but there are just characters who, based on the world they're placed in, would and should smoke, and characters that only could smoke, like the Julia Roberts character, and I don't feel it's necessary to have the latter characters smoke.
My feeling is that if the sequence could go either way, I personally would prefer there not to be smoking in a movie. I don't need it to be erased from classic films, but there are just characters who, based on the world they're placed in, would and should smoke, and characters that only could smoke, like the Julia Roberts character, and I don't feel it's necessary to have the latter characters smoke.
Characters lighting up for no good reason or just out of the blue just irk me and distract me from the movie.
10-10-08, 11:50 AM
#38
DVD Talk Limited Edition
I think we are in agreement and the only point I want to stress is that I strongly feel (as in the Julia Roberts flic) that it seemed totally out of character for her to display her hissy fit by heavily smoking out in the hallway.
Characters lighting up for no good reason or just out of the blue just irk me and distract me from the movie.
Characters lighting up for no good reason or just out of the blue just irk me and distract me from the movie.
The counterargument is that just because people smoke in real life doesn't mean it has to be included in a movie. I'm anti-smoking, and I dislike seeing people light up, just like in reality. Some people smoke during times of stress, but I don't. Admittedly there is a line at which it becomes unrealistic, but my point is, for instance, if Julia Roberts had NOT gone out and smoked, that doesn't take you out of the movie somehow. It's not like the lack of smoking in normal situations is somehow unrealistic or jarring. I'm not puritanical and I have no religious, political or other nutty reasoning for disliking smoking, but it also would distance me from a character to see them smoke.
My feeling is that if the sequence could go either way, I personally would prefer there not to be smoking in a movie. I don't need it to be erased from classic films, but there are just characters who, based on the world they're placed in, would and should smoke, and characters that only could smoke, like the Julia Roberts character, and I don't feel it's necessary to have the latter characters smoke.
My feeling is that if the sequence could go either way, I personally would prefer there not to be smoking in a movie. I don't need it to be erased from classic films, but there are just characters who, based on the world they're placed in, would and should smoke, and characters that only could smoke, like the Julia Roberts character, and I don't feel it's necessary to have the latter characters smoke.
