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Old 12-16-11, 11:53 PM
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

I should clarify, I don't mind Bale's Batman voice. I know a lot of people do, though.

And it's not that the DKR prologue was bad. It's not bad (sound issues aside). The plane stunts are awesome. But this just didn't have the visceral impact the other did. It's not just Bane, it's the editing, the build up, lots of things. If you compare the two sequences, the DK prologue is a much stronger piece of filmmaking than the DKR prologue.

And yes, I'm still excited to see it, of course. Even if it's not as good as The Dark Knight (and I doubt it will be, honestly), it'll still be good to get one more outing with this crew.
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Well The Dark Knight is a tough (almost impossible really) act to follow. It was such a phenomenon that there's no way people aren't going to be making constant comparisons. I almost feel like Rises is going to have an unfair disadvantage because of having to follow it up. I've got faith in Nolan and company to put out a great film however I do think that this movie won't be as big of a mainstream success as The Dark Knight was. I can kind of understand why Nolan was hesitant to come back for a third because it's going to be hard to capture lightning in a bottle again.
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I can kind of understand why Nolan was hesitant to come back for a third because it's going to be hard to capture lightning in a bottle again.
Given the money Warner gave him to make Inception, I don't think they had to twist his arm that much to come back. If anything made him hesitate, it was Ledger's death, that had an impact on him (from a personal standpoint).
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Given the money Warner gave him to make Inception, I don't think they had to twist his arm that much to come back. If anything made him hesitate, it was Ledger's death, that had an impact on him (from a personal standpoint).
I'm pretty sure I read something though where Nolan really wanted his Batman movies to be solid and that he didn't want to just come back for the money. Basically if he didn't feel like he had a solid story to tell that he didn't want to continue making them just because the studio wanted him to. Why else do you think he's so deadset on wrapping up his Batman saga with this film and closing out this version of Batman? I'm sure Ledger's death was also a reason why he was hesitant though.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

I think my biggest problem with this prologue is that it's pretty much a retread of TDK prologue with the whole "unmasking" thing, just in a different setting.

On a separate point, the idea of having a prologue as the introduction for a villain kicks ass. It reminds me a bit of the Bond movies. I'd love to see more of them.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

Spoiler:


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Qhu7kgbwpns" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9A6ToYYFGEI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Old 12-17-11, 10:25 AM
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Well done. Thanks Snake!
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Now having seen both the prologue and the trailer with decent audio, I'm still having a difficult time understanding Bane. I understood most of what he said in the prologue but I think that was mainly due to the fact that I read the transcription that was posted earlier. In the trailer I couldn't really make out the line about giving Gotham the permission to die.
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Originally Posted by RagingBull80
Now having seen both the prologue and the trailer with decent audio, I'm still having a difficult time understanding Bane. I understood most of what he said in the prologue but I think that was mainly due to the fact that I read the transcription that was posted earlier. In the trailer I couldn't really make out the line about giving Gotham the permission to die.
When Gotham is in ashes, you have my permission to die.
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Thanks for the link. Definitely a lot better quality, and Bane's voice is clear as a bell and very easy to understand.

Also, its pretty obvious he's gonna mess Bruce up pretty badly.
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When Gotham is in ashes, you have my permission to die.
I read the line a few pages back but still couldn't make it out in the clip.

For the record, I like the sound of his voice and the accent that Hardy's using, I just wish he were a little easier to understand.
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Originally Posted by RagingBull80
I read the line a few pages back but still couldn't make it out in the clip.

For the record, I like the sound of his voice and the accent that Hardy's using, I just wish he were a little easier to understand.
Nolan wants to give fans a reason to see this over and over again.
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I'm sort of miffed that my nearby Regal Imax theater showed the 2nd trailer before MI:Ghost Protocol. I'd like to have seen the 6-minute long prologue in Imax, instead.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

I watched the prologue again. Even having read the transcript, I still found much of Bane's dialogue to be incomprehensible.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

Originally Posted by Supermallet
I watched the prologue again. Even having read the transcript, I still found much of Bane's dialogue to be incomprehensible.
Indeed.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

Yep it's hard to understand. I'm sure the complaints have been heard so I'm not worried.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
Missing a line or two based on a technical flub or bad mix isn't so bad. The main villain of a film being unintelligible to some or most of the audience is a major problem. I mean, people already complain about Batman's voice in these movies. If Bane can't be understood, why even bother to see the film?

And as for why I felt underwhelmed, it wasn't just that The Joker is a major villain and Bane isn't. It's that I wasn't very impressed with the six minutes of Bane that I did see. The mask looked kind of silly, and he didn't appear very imposing. The sound stuff didn't help, of course.
What shock. You're never impressed with anything.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

What a shock, people latch onto the critical comments I make while completely ignoring all the positive ones.
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Gah....they're now removed.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

While we're on the subject, can someone explain not his dialogue, but his actions? What the hell was Bane was actually doing to the doctor? And another thing, did Carcetti actually shoot the first masked man, because it sort of looked like he just shot into the air.
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While we're on the subject, can someone explain not his dialogue, but his actions? What the hell was Bane was actually doing to the doctor? And another thing, did Carcetti actually shoot the first masked man, because it sort of looked like he just shot into the air.
Bane was getting some of Pavel's blood transferred over to convince authorities that the dead man was Pavel after the crash.

The guy shot into the air to scare the masked man into talking. Bane made a comment about it as well.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

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What a shock, people latch onto the critical comments I make while completely ignoring all the positive ones.
yeah. funny how that happens.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

I have a feeling the audio will be cleaned up some for the final product.

Prologue on real IMAX looked great, although the stunt kinda reminded me of Cliffhanger. Not complaining though.

Movie looks great.
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)

Am I the only dummy who can't track down the bootleg online?

I may have to make my quarterly trip to the movie theater today (I have a proper IMAX nearby). I'm really excited to see what everyone is talking about. And MI4 looks good anyways.
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have you typed "The Dark Knight Rises" into youtube? There's a shit ton right there.


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