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04-30-08, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to go see it. Again, it's easy to see both sides of this argument -- yeah, the choices out there for families aren't always spectacular, but there have to be alternatives. And I'd wager that most of the time there are at least two family movies at the theater and it's still not the better one that makes more money.
04-30-08, 11:41 AM
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"This movie is GREAT."
"No it's not."
"Really, why's that?"
"Well, why do you think it's great?"
"Never mind that, the burden of proof is on you, sir!"
See the "There Will Be Blood" thread for vast illustrations of this.
"No it's not."
"Really, why's that?"
"Well, why do you think it's great?"
"Never mind that, the burden of proof is on you, sir!"
See the "There Will Be Blood" thread for vast illustrations of this.
04-30-08, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FantasticVSDoom
But again, what kids like and what adults like is 2 different things... Im sure most kids who went and watched Alvin and the Chipmunks liked it. I would never see it, but I dont have kids. But if my 5 year old niece was in town, who loved the movie, wanted to see a movie, Im sure that is what she would want to see.
just sayin...
04-30-08, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tanman
Or the opposite on this board (as apposed to the general public) sometimes. Just because it's old and in B/W doesn't mean its good.
And yes, surprisingly enough, they do still make good movies.
And yes, surprisingly enough, they do still make good movies.
Thank you!
04-30-08, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tanman
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I don't really remember any underwater scenes in LOTR that were CGI.
I don't really remember any underwater scenes in LOTR that were CGI.
Plus bad CGI can really take you out of the movie experience. For me anyways it's not that I'm looking for it, its just jarring.
Boy that scorpion king looks awful, or peter parker just doesn't look right jumping across the buildings.
That's why I think the best CGI is the one you don't notice.
Boy that scorpion king looks awful, or peter parker just doesn't look right jumping across the buildings.
That's why I think the best CGI is the one you don't notice.
Agreed. I guess my point is that some peoples standards for what constitutes 'bad CG' boggles my mind somewhat. To me at least, I can probably count number of badly done renderigs I've seen on one finger. So most of the time when I see this comment I just sor tof stare at the computer screen scratching my head.
04-30-08, 02:27 PM
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Any argument that uses "l337"-speak or otherwise appears to have been written by someone who flunked English in kindergarten. If I get a headache trying to translate your blatherings into adult English, then I'm going to assume that as little thought went into forming your opinion as went into putting it into words.
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04-30-08, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NIMH Rat
"This movie is GREAT."
"No it's not."
"Really, why's that?"
"Well, why do you think it's great?"
"Never mind that, the burden of proof is on you, sir!"
See the "There Will Be Blood" thread for vast illustrations of this.
"No it's not."
"Really, why's that?"
"Well, why do you think it's great?"
"Never mind that, the burden of proof is on you, sir!"
See the "There Will Be Blood" thread for vast illustrations of this.
~
I fell asleep on it or I walked out of the film
- If you saw so little of the film, why should I listen or consider your opinion of the film valid - you didn't see all of it...
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04-30-08, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
"Foreign films are better than the crap Hollywood makes."
In certain cases this may be true. But there's certainly a lot of crap boring shit coming out of foreign studios. But snobs often give shit foreign flicks a free pass just because it's from overseas.
In certain cases this may be true. But there's certainly a lot of crap boring shit coming out of foreign studios. But snobs often give shit foreign flicks a free pass just because it's from overseas.
Originally Posted by troystiffler
Yup. As a compliment, same goes for indie films. They serve their purpose as alternate entertainment. They ocassionaly serve their purpose as 'getting your name out there' for talented individuals who can't scrounge up the money. And there's some really amazing ones (this year, The Diver and the Butterfly, for instance). But I give up on the art fucks who think lousy movies are worthwhile just because they were independently financed.
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
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04-30-08, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aintnosin
Any argument that uses "l337"-speak or otherwise appears to have been written by someone who flunked English in kindergarten. If I get a headache trying to translate your blatherings into adult English, then I'm going to assume that as little thought went into forming your opinion as went into putting it into words.
04-30-08, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Elements of posts that occasionally tend to make me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
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04-30-08, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by An4h0ny
my five year old nephew would like to eat ice cream for every single meal...
just sayin...
just sayin...
When she isn't supposed to have fun, her parents make her do her homework and eat her spinach.
My point is that movies and ice cream are meant to be fun. I do not find the need to drag my cousin to see a movie that she doesn't want to see just because it may be "better" (to me). Vegetables and homework are when she needs to learn to eat right and be smart.
04-30-08, 04:00 PM
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I agree (generally) with the list except for point #1.
Sometimes a film doesn't initially resonate with you. That doesn't mean that you should waste time watching movies you already saw and dismissed but when someone else really thinks the film has merit makes that comment such as, 'perhaps give it another try at some point' ... it is extremely valid.
An example for me was the film, The Shining. I was disappointed that it didn't really do justice to the book. Then I watched it again years later and didn't care so much about the book but now found things in the film itself that resonated with me.
And I re-watched it because someone I respected had a differing opinion of the film and suggested I re-watch it.
Sometimes a film doesn't initially resonate with you. That doesn't mean that you should waste time watching movies you already saw and dismissed but when someone else really thinks the film has merit makes that comment such as, 'perhaps give it another try at some point' ... it is extremely valid.
An example for me was the film, The Shining. I was disappointed that it didn't really do justice to the book. Then I watched it again years later and didn't care so much about the book but now found things in the film itself that resonated with me.
And I re-watched it because someone I respected had a differing opinion of the film and suggested I re-watch it.
04-30-08, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Then my fucken work am dun. Now go watch your crap snobbbbyyyy indie 4-renn flicks and leave me alone.
his reply to you was pretty snobbish too, lol.
04-30-08, 09:29 PM
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I really don't agree with any of the rules in the OP or others following it. Seeing a film more than once is almost necessary to truly appreciate its merits (good or bad). Commentaries, interviews and other analysis can also help appreciate the film again good or bad.
Always remember your reaction to a film says more about you than the actual film.
Always remember your reaction to a film says more about you than the actual film.
05-01-08, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Elements of posts that occasionally tend to make me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
Although it seems no one else is doing so, I would like to formally agree with this.
05-01-08, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by inri222
Yeah but the special effects were amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry but special effects are very low on my priority list of what I like in a movie.
Sorry but special effects are very low on my priority list of what I like in a movie.
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05-01-08, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
05-01-08, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Elements of posts that occasionally tend to make me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
05-01-08, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Elements of posts that occasionally tend to make me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
1. Misspellings
2. Lack of subject-verb agreement
Elements of posts that frequently cause me to discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Profanity
2. Use of the term boring
An element of posts that always makes me discount the judgment of the poster:
1. Use of the terms snob or art fucks as derogatory labels
Essentially, if I'm discussing a film, single word generalizations don't fly, whether it be commercial or art-house.
05-01-08, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rehmus
i dont think #1 and #2 hold up quite like the other ones because rewatching a movie actually can help (for instance, i hated pulp fiction the first time through), and sometimes people actually do not understand things going on in some movies.
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I agree, especially with #1, I am sure people have re-watched movies more than once, and in that 2nd or 3rd viewing, they see something that they did not see the first time around.
05-01-08, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush18
How should we use the word snob?
Originally Posted by sundog
I agree with the spirit of this post. But boring is a valid, if too common, assessment of a reaction. However, when I'm in a discussion about a movie, if someone uses 'boring' I try to get him or her to elaborate on what he or she found boring.
Essentially, if I'm discussing a film, single word generalizations don't fly, whether it be commercial or art-house.
Essentially, if I'm discussing a film, single word generalizations don't fly, whether it be commercial or art-house.
05-01-08, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Goat3001
My point is that movies and ice cream are meant to be fun. I do not find the need to drag my cousin to see a movie that she doesn't want to see just because it may be "better" (to me). Vegetables and homework are when she needs to learn to eat right and be smart.
*eats ice cream while watching Cobra*
Originally Posted by aintnosin
If leverage can be a verb, blathering can be a noun.
i was just joking.. i mean blathering
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05-01-08, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
I'm so tired of people telling me, for example, that Tarkovsky's films are boring that I tune those people out. On the other hand, if somebody told me that Steven Spielberg's films were boring, that would interest me, and I'd be eager to hear them out, assuming a justification for that position was forthcoming.
