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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Nick Danger
(Post 11642579)
Not even "ghastly dialogue"?
Now if he had said that about the Prequel Trilogy I'd agree 100% with "ghastly dialog" as a descriptor. |
re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
His wife, Chaz, has issued a statement.
Wow: "We were getting ready to go home today for hospice care, when he looked at us, smiled, and passed away. No struggle, no pain, just a quiet, dignified transition. |
Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Jack Straw
(Post 11641722)
Here's a clip from ABCNews from 1983 with Siskel and Ebert debating and defending Return of the Jedi with the nimrod on the right. S/E pretty much win the day!
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
Must've been a slow news day
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by whotony
(Post 11642519)
As it has been said, watch his show to listen to people talk about movies and hear their opinion not make your opinion using theirs.
Originally Posted by Nick Danger
He also wrote a column about language, where he prescribed the correct English usage in difficult cases.
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Tarantino
(Post 11642535)
It was my opinion. My opinion is that I will feel bad for him if a Malick film is his last review.
Spoiler:
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
I'm glad that was his last review. As I am glad that his widow mentioned his passing was a peaceful one.
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
Am I the only one getting a horrible script error from that Return of the Jedi video? I was so glad when it finally fell off the page, only to have someone quote it and bring it back LOL
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
(Post 11643189)
Am I the only one getting a horrible script error from that Return of the Jedi video? I was so glad when it finally fell off the page, only to have someone quote it and bring it back LOL
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by The Infidel
(Post 11642482)
I'm gonna chime in here and say that neither the passing of Siskel nor Ebert affects me in the least. I only watched their show growing up because my mom watched it, and she only watched it to find out what an upcoming movie was about. She didn't rely too much on their opinions. If it looked like a movie she would enjoy, she went to see it. If it didn't, she didn't. To be honest, she thought they were both a couple of opinionated blowhards. So, subsequently, I think I "inherited" that feeling toward critics of any kind. Who cares what someone else thinks? Why would you miss out on something just because someone who gets paid to give their opinion doesn't like it? Sure, it may be an "educated" opinion, but it's solely theirs, nonetheless.
I'm not sure why this idea persists of critics as people who do nothing more than "get paid to give their opinion." Probably because there are so many bad "critics" in the world, and their numbers have increased exponentially thanks to the internet. |
re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
I never said he or any other critic did "nothing more" than get paid to give their opinion, but getting paid to give their opinion, albeit (in Ebert's case) a very educated and experienced one, is exactly what their profession is. I realize what the function of a critic is. I'm simply saying they're not for me. I'm sorry my feelings seem to be frustrating so many people.
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 11642557)
So you feel bad for him for watching a movie he enjoyed as his last film?
Do you also feel bad for someone when they win the lottery, enjoy their vacation or have amazing sex? |
Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Tarantino
(Post 11643321)
If their sex is boring, meandering, and without a point like Malick's movies are, then yes, I'd feel bad for them...but not as bad as having to watch a Malick movie as your last one, because you can always have more sex.
You obviously don't get when to feel sorry for someone and when not to. |
Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Nick Danger
(Post 11642579)
John Simon specialized in intellectual snob appeal. He never liked any popular movies. He only liked the ones that Joe Sixpack avoided. He also wrote a column about language, where he prescribed the correct English usage in difficult cases. Even if he stated something one might disagree with, there's no doubt that his points were often valid and thoughtful. Fans should read his REVERSE ANGLE: A DECADE OF AMERICAN FILM which actually makes you appreciate the art of movies. |
Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by DieselsDen
(Post 11643698)
Well, John Simon was much more than that. He had high standards when it came to film reviewing and really challenged the most hyped up and over-praised of Hollywood films.
Even if he stated something one might disagree with, there's no doubt that his points were often valid and thoughtful. Fans should read his REVERSE ANGLE: A DECADE OF AMERICAN FILM which actually makes you appreciate the art of movies. |
Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
(Post 11643723)
He's in trouble from the start going up against polished "TV personalities" like Siskel and Ebert. You notice how Siskel and Ebert radiate a positive energy, and speak in ethusiastic sound bites. Simon loses the debate with his dull manner of speaking and meandering sentences. He seems so old and opposed to fun. That awful moment when he starts fumbling with his earpiece makes him look like a senile old man who doesn't know how to operate his hearing aid.
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Just read that Wesboro Baptist Church will picket his funeral. They call him a **** enabler and he made a couple anti-WBC tweets.
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
A what enabler?
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
(Post 11644326)
A what enabler?
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
(Post 11644326)
A what enabler?
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
That's weird. I guess you can self-censor words you know will get forum-censored. I typed "f * g"... w/o the spaces.
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)
He enabled people to smoke cigarettes?
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
Excellent piece on Ebert by David Carr in today's NY Times. He points out how Ebert was able to adapt to different media and formats to spread his writing and that's how he reached the position of fame and wealth that he did, a status that other film critics are just not able to achieve. One has to give Ebert credit for that.
Here's the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/bu...=business&_r=0 |
Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]
One of my biggest literary heroes. I was shocked to say the least. He'll be very sorely missed.
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