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Old 04-05-13, 01:25 PM
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]

Back before the days of video recorders, I would always race home to watch "Sneak Peeks" and its later spawns. I stayed with the show pretty much until the end and even enjoyed the last version "Ebert Presents: At the Movies." (But that show became increasingly difficult to find as the series ran.)

The most enjoyable shows for me were the year-end "Best" and "Worst" episodes.

Anyone remember the SCTV spoof they did on "At The Movies" with Dave Thomas playing Ebert and Joe Flaherty playing Siskel?
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Originally Posted by SomethingMore
^ it has already been stated that he had more reviews submitted that had not yet been posted. To The Wonder is definitely one of them... there may be more... but not many.
Haven't seen it yet, but I'd be happy knowing a Malick review was his final one.
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11 Funniest Lines from Roger Ebert's Reviews of Bad Movies

I like this one :

Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen, 2009
"If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination."
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Originally Posted by mhg83
Without this line Freddie Got Fingered review, I can't take that list seriously:

"“This movie doesn’t scrape the bottom of the barrel. This movie isn’t the bottom of the barrel. This movie isn’t below the bottom of the barrel. This movie doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with barrels.”
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I actually feel bad for him having to watch a Malick film last. I think he'd have been better off watching The Host.
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]

Originally Posted by Jack Straw
Here's a clip from ABCNews from 1983 with Siskel and Ebert debating and defending Return of the Jedi with the nimrod on the right. S/E pretty much win the day!

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Fascinating. I can understand people not liking the films, but I don't understand a single complaint this guy had.
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]

Originally Posted by Tarantino
I actually feel bad for him having to watch a Malick film last. I think he'd have been better off watching The Host.
Regardless of your own feelings on Malick, we know that Ebert loved him - so I wouldn't feel too bad for him.
Old 04-05-13, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarantino
I actually feel bad for him having to watch a Malick film last. I think he'd have been better off watching The Host.
Ebert puts Badlands and Days of Heaven in his "Great Movies" list, and puts The Tree of Life in his top 10 of all time. He also gives The Thin Red Line 3 stars and The New World 4 stars.

Even if he gives To The Wonder a thumbs down, it doesn't sound like he'd actually hate it outright.

Sounds more like YOUR opinion than Eberts.
Old 04-05-13, 10:47 PM
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According to AICN he gave it 3 1/2 stars. Not sure when the review will come out though.
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Originally Posted by Sondheim
Regardless of your own feelings on Malick, we know that Ebert loved him - so I wouldn't feel too bad for him.
Old 04-06-13, 08:40 AM
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I'm gonna chime in here and say that neither the passing of Siskel nor Ebert affects me in the least. I only watched their show growing up because my mom watched it, and she only watched it to find out what an upcoming movie was about. She didn't rely too much on their opinions. If it looked like a movie she would enjoy, she went to see it. If it didn't, she didn't. To be honest, she thought they were both a couple of opinionated blowhards. So, subsequently, I think I "inherited" that feeling toward critics of any kind. Who cares what someone else thinks? Why would you miss out on something just because someone who gets paid to give their opinion doesn't like it? Sure, it may be an "educated" opinion, but it's solely theirs, nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by The Infidel
I'm gonna chime in here and say that neither the passing of Siskel nor Ebert affects me in the least. I only watched their show growing up because my mom watched it, and she only watched it to find out what an upcoming movie was about. She didn't rely too much on their opinions. If it looked like a movie she would enjoy, she went to see it. If it didn't, she didn't. To be honest, she thought they were both a couple of opinionated blowhards. So, subsequently, I think I "inherited" that feeling toward critics of any kind. Who cares what someone else thinks? Why would you miss out on something just because someone who gets paid to give their opinion doesn't like it? Sure, it may be an "educated" opinion, but it's solely theirs, nonetheless.
Well then, how do you know how to find a good movie? Most of us don't have time to see everything that comes out, to say nothing of what has come before. You certainly can't rely on the marketing. Friends and family members aren't much better, unless they happen to be film buffs and not just moviegoers.

Critics certainly aren't the last word on anything, and I didn't always agree with Ebert (his stance on video games as art was especially puzzling). But, he did introduce me to a lot of great films and I was interested in what he had to say about any film. Maybe I just trust someone who has seen more films than I ever will.
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)

Roger Ebert was one of those names you could always trust to have a valid argument for or against a certain film. While I didn't always agree with him, I respected his opinion because he could do what so many others cannot, back it up.

Having read almost all of his books on film, I can say he helped shape my taste and certainly made me understand how to look at things with a critical eye. The man was nothing short of a genius. To think of how many films he reviewed and how people he inspired, it is mind boggling. The world lost a great voice and he will be missed.
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I didn't watch their shows to find movies to see. I watched to listen to them talk about movies. Like others have said their insights and views opened up my knowledge of movies. And they really liked movies and it showed.
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Originally Posted by Drexl
Well then, how do you know how to find a good movie? Most of us don't have time to see everything that comes out, to say nothing of what has come before. You certainly can't rely on the marketing. Friends and family members aren't much better, unless they happen to be film buffs and not just moviegoers.

Critics certainly aren't the last word on anything, and I didn't always agree with Ebert (his stance on video games as art was especially puzzling). But, he did introduce me to a lot of great films and I was interested in what he had to say about any film. Maybe I just trust someone who has seen more films than I ever will.
What do you mean, "how do you know how to find a good movie"? There are lots of ways to find out what movies are coming out, and what they're about. You should already know going in what kind of movie you like to see. If you go see it, and you didn't like it completely, or even hated it, then your support of it ends right there. You don't have to see it again, and you certainly don't have to buy it when it comes out on home media.

Whether or not you want to rely on friends and family pretty strictly depends on whether you value their opinion or not. But at least you KNOW them, and can base your opinion of their opinion on that. When it comes down to it, deciding on seeing a movie based on Ebert's opinion is depending on someone you don't even know. I used to watch the show, and while I'll admit he was extremely knowledgeable, his opinion is still his own, based on his own likes and dislikes. Those are not mine.
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You understand that people can read his reviews just to see what he thinks right? I never listen to anyone when it comes to movies, I watch what I want, always. But I would always go to Ebert's reviews after seeing the movie in question to see what he had to say. Also you're not supposed to blindly trust a critic at all times anyway, Ebert has maintained that you can use his opinions as a gauge in relation to your own tastes.
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I understand all that. I was just giving my own opinion.
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Ah gotcha.
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Re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation [Update: Dead]

Originally Posted by The Infidel
What do you mean, "how do you know how to find a good movie"? There are lots of ways to find out what movies are coming out, and what they're about. You should already know going in what kind of movie you like to see. If you go see it, and you didn't like it completely, or even hated it, then your support of it ends right there. You don't have to see it again, and you certainly don't have to buy it when it comes out on home media.

Whether or not you want to rely on friends and family pretty strictly depends on whether you value their opinion or not. But at least you KNOW them, and can base your opinion of their opinion on that. When it comes down to it, deciding on seeing a movie based on Ebert's opinion is depending on someone you don't even know. I used to watch the show, and while I'll admit he was extremely knowledgeable, his opinion is still his own, based on his own likes and dislikes. Those are not mine.

Everyone's opinion is their own.

As it has been said, watch his show to listen to people talk about movies and hear their opinion not make your opinion using theirs.

I even watch Leonard Maltins dopey show just to listen to someone else talk about movies.

Other then Ebert's shows there really hasn't been any quality programming
On mvie with reviews or just simple discussion.
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Originally Posted by Coral
Sounds more like YOUR opinion than Eberts.
It was my opinion. My opinion is that I will feel bad for him if a Malick film is his last review.
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Originally Posted by Tarantino
It was my opinion. My opinion is that I will feel bad for him if a Malick film is his last review.
So you feel bad for him for watching a movie he enjoyed as his last film?

Do you also feel bad for someone when they win the lottery, enjoy their vacation or have amazing sex?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Fascinating. I can understand people not liking the films, but I don't understand a single complaint this guy had.
Not even "ghastly dialogue"?

John Simon specialized in intellectual snob appeal. He never liked any popular movies. He only liked the ones that Joe Sixpack avoided.

He also wrote a column about language, where he prescribed the correct English usage in difficult cases.
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Originally Posted by Tarantino
It was my opinion. My opinion is that I will feel bad for him if a Malick film is his last review.
Supposedly, he gave it three and a half stars so go feel bad about people like you who waste their feelings of bad.
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re: Roger Ebert – Discussion & Appreciation (1942-2013)

Malick tends to be quite boring

Spoiler:

my opinion
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