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Old 02-16-09, 11:31 AM
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

The real problem with these remakes is that they are trying to recapture a lost past.

The originals (Halloween, Friday 13th, and Nightmare) were campy, unprofessional, and fun. By unprofessional I mean fresh, unproven.

Today they are too serious, dark, and disturbed. The horror genre is completely lost on todays generation. There is no subtlety. Its all shock and awe.

Freddy was just a fun teenage scare. We dont need a back story to Freddy. We were told enough about his past that we understand why he is who he is. I dont need to see him torturing children to get it. I dont need some half-baked idea about what brought him back to life or even any sort of explaination of how he kills people in their dreams.

I fully expect them ruin a campy fun horror film into some Hostel-influenced, macbre, CGI gorefest, about some internet hounding, child-porn freak that somehow stumbles on some injectible microscopic-cyborgs that induce fatal pre-programmed "dreams" in the minds of his victims.
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Originally Posted by LickTheABCs
He doesn't want to do it. He'd much rather keep making crappy flicks like Killer Pad.
It's pretty obvious he was forced out for a younger or bigger actor....
He even played Freddy the whole time on the TV SHOW!!!!
Plus he got his biggest paycheck as Freddy for FVJ....
Wake up man,Robert Englund is Freddy....
He must be trying to keep his pride or something....
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Originally Posted by dino88
He has said he doesn't want to play Freddy, but wouldn't mind doing a cameo. (try googling it, i'm sure you can find an article)

I think a cameo would be a bad idea, it would just be too distracting. Whatever small role he had would have no believability, because you would just be thinking "there's Freddy" during his entire screen time.
not anymore distracting then Stan Lee appearing in every single Marvel movie ever made the past 10 years!
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not anymore distracting then Hugh Hefner appearing in every single Marvel movie ever made the past 10 years!
fixed.
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It's pretty obvious he was forced out for a younger or bigger actor....
He even played Freddy the whole time on the TV SHOW!!!!
Plus he got his biggest paycheck as Freddy for FVJ....
Wake up man,Robert Englund is Freddy....
He must be trying to keep his pride or something....
Jackie Earle Haley might be a good 10 years younger than Englund but it's not like they're going to cast Chad Michael Murray or somebody to that liking. One is 61 the other is 47.

Robert Englund is Freddy as Kane Hodder is to Jason. He CAN'T be replaced but unfortunately will.
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Originally Posted by LickTheABCs
Chad Michael Murray or somebody to that liking.
Chad Michael Murray as Freddy....
I didn't mean someone that young.... lol
Jackie Earle Haley may be a bigger name but he's too old too....
I'm thinking someone 30 to 35 maybe even 40 not almost 50....
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Originally Posted by LickTheABCs
Jackie Earle Haley might be a good 10 years younger than Englund but it's not like they're going to cast Chad Michael Murray or somebody to that liking. One is 61 the other is 47.

Robert Englund is Freddy as Kane Hodder is to Jason. He CAN'T be replaced but unfortunately will.


Disagree; basically anyone could have played Jason. He is just a big hulking mass that anyone could have done, you never really see his face and anyone can walk and swing a machete. Freddy on the other hand has a personality and recognizable features that not just anyone can play that were done perfectly by Englund.
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Originally Posted by d2cheer
Disagree; basically anyone could have played Jason. He is just a big hulking mass that anyone could have done, you never really see his face and anyone can walk and swing a machete. Freddy on the other hand has a personality and recognizable features that not just anyone can play that were done perfectly by Englund.
And like I said all along I agree. His personality IS Freddy but unfortunately we live in a time where Hollywood don't care about these things we see as they see it as trivial. To them it's all about the bottom dollar and in their mind turning A Nightmare on Elm Street into Saw 7 is more the way they look at it. Because for some reason Hollywood thinks every Horror movie needs to be like Hostel.
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Originally Posted by d2cheer
Disagree; basically anyone could have played Jason. He is just a big hulking mass that anyone could have done, you never really see his face and anyone can walk and swing a machete. Freddy on the other hand has a personality and recognizable features that not just anyone can play that were done perfectly by Englund.
Agreed. A much better example would be Pinhead. Speaking of which, what ever happened to the Hellraiser remake?
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I'm sure I missed this somewhere, so it's probably already been mentioned, but:

Release Date: April 16, 2010

It'll be interesting to see another take on NOES, but not holding my breath for brilliance.

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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

After seeing Watchmen I'm completely deadset on Jackie Earl Haley playing Krueger. I can totally see him nailing it.
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

I wish Craven was involved at some level with the remake. Either way, curious to see how it pans out.
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Personally, I'm glad Craven won't be involved. He's lost touch with the horror genre and I don't think him throwing in his 2 cents on set is going to help the film. He (and us viewers) are better off letting someone else take control of the reigns and deliver a new vision. I don't like seeing this project being done anymore than most, but if it has to happen then that's how it should be.
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

What, you didn't like The Hills Have Eyes 2, which somehow managed to be worse than the original Hills Have Eyes 2?
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

Yeah. Craven's last decent project was, what, Scream 2 in 1997?

While I enjoyed Aja's remake to The Hills Have Eyes; every project Craven has touched in the past ten years has been shit.

I don't need another Music of the Heart, Scream 3, Cursed, Red Eye (great job being unable to use Cillian Murphy too), Dracula 2000, Feast, The Hills Have Eyes 2, and Pulse. Are there any others I'm forgetting that Craven has had his hand in?

Don't get me wrong, I love Craven's earlier works; but like many great horror masters (example: Argento), the man has past his prime.

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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

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Yeah. Craven's last decent project was, what, Scream 2 in 1997?
I'd say his last worthwhile film was the first Scream, in 1996. He also has 25/8 coming out later this year.
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What, you didn't like The Hills Have Eyes 2, which somehow managed to be worse than the original Hills Have Eyes 2?
Maybe it could have been on par had it included dog flashbacks.
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If only, my friend. If only.
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

Latino review got look at the script:


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So what are their plans? LatinoReview got a look at the script and they reveal some very cool points: He's a gardener not a janitor (which far better explains his bladed-gloves) and the film will will ditch the puns and bad jokes he makes in favor of a Freddy who barely speaks. Additionally, while they'll be keeping Freddy's look, the film will delve more into his backstory through a combination of flashbacks and nightmare sequences.



But the most interesting point is whether or not Freddy is a child molester. That's what Craven had originally intended for the character before it was changed to a child murderer in the original release but the mystery of the reboot revolves around whether Freddy really did it or if the kids he intends to murder (they're now 18) lied and he's out for revenge. That's the aspect that gets me the most excited because while our alliegances in these films usually lie with the monster, it will be interesting to have a central mystery in the story to try and decipher who's responsible for a crime that most would agree is even worse than murder, provided that crime has even occured.


http://www.collider.com/entertainmen...id/11361/tcid/
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

having Freddy "barely speak" negates one of the truly unique qualities that separated this franchise from all others - a stalker/killer that among other things used words to terrorize his victims as opposed to Jason, Michael, and all the other bazillion silent slashers. i can understand cutting down the cheesy lines, but no, i can't buy into a silent Freddy.

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having Freddy "barely speak" negates one of the truly unique qualities that separated this franchise from all others - a stalker/killer that among other things used words to terrorize his victims as opposed to Jason, Michael, and all the other anonymous silent slashers. i can understand cutting down the cheesy lines, but no, i can't buy into a silent Freddy.
Yeah, same here, that's the only (big) flaw I see in this reboot idea.

Still hoping Jackie Earle Haley gets cast with his stock on the rise after Little Children and now Watchmen, plus he's in Scorsese's next.
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I'd watch it if Haley was involved. Never was a big fan of the Freddy films..but Haley could change things. Now if it had a damn fine dark story worth putting a great actor Haley in instead of standard Freddy plots...
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No Robert Englund as Freddy.
Jackie Earle Haley as Freddy.
Freddy that barely speaks.
Mystery regarding wether or not Freddy was a child molester.
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I'd it to not have a simple plot like the other films..it could literally be a great film in the hands of a competent team.
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Re: A Nightmare on Elm Street about to become A Nightmare on Remake Row

Am I the only one that has no problem with Freddy having minimal speaking lines? After the endless one-liners that turned the series into a parody of itself, I'm glad to know that he'll be concentrating more on terrorizing his victims and less on giving them one last laugh.

That being said, Latino Review does a good job of making the project sound good, but I still can't see them pulling this off without having it suck incredible ass.


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