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Jay G. 02-29-20 12:01 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 

Originally Posted by urrutiap (Post 13695490)
Marty and Doc of Back to the Future II were already there the whole time in Back to the Future 1 in 1955 especially the daytime downtown where BTTF II Marty was wearing a fedora and sunglasses.

Plus the thing about 3 Deloreans being there the whole time during Back to the Future II because of Back to the Future III

Do you mean you can actually see them in BTTF1? Like Marty in a fedora and sunglasses in the background? Because I don't think there were thinking that far ahead..

In terms of story, due to the particulars of time travel that BTTF uses, no, they weren't there "the whole time". For the first movie, only the first Marty and first Delorean were in the past, with only the original Doc. Each trip back to the past creates an alternate timeline.

First, original, unaltered timeline: Marty's dad falls out of tree, gets hit by a car, gets nursed back to health by his mom, they go to the dance together and kiss. They get married, but Marty's dad is a pushover, and Biff stays a bully. No Marty, no Delorean.

BTTF timeline: Marty goes back, "saves" his dad and gets hit by the car instead, which causes all sorts of ripple effects. This is now an alternate timeline, one where, for a while, he may ultimately end up not existing. One Marty, one Delorean.

BTTF2: Biff goes back and changes the timeline. So two Biffs in the past, and the Delorean he "borrowed" as well for a while. Marty and Doc go back to "fix" this, but they take steps so as to not to alter their own timelines apart from fixing what Biff changed (i.e. getting back the sports score book). So at one point there's two Biffs, two Martys, two Docs, and three Deloreans (Biff's, Marty 1's, and Marty and Doc 2's). At this point though, the "old west" timeline hasn't been change though, only the 1950s.

BTTF2 ending/BBTF3: Doc 2, in the 50s, gets sent further into the past in the third Delorean. At this point, that Doc starts changing the past, and we end up seeing Marty in that altered timeline getting a letter from Doc 2. He then goes back to Doc 1 right after Marty 1 is sent back to the future. Biff 2 is gone as well. Marty 2 with Doc 1 pulls out the Delorean Doc 2 hid. So now, at one point while Biff 2 was past, there were 4 Deloreans: Marty 1's, Biff 2's, Marty and Doc 2's, and the hidden old west one.


The BTTF time travel has a lot of paradoxes and contradictions though. For example, in BTTF1, Marty goes back, changes the past, and travels forward into the alternate timeline. But in BTTF2, Biff goes to the past, changes it, then travels forward back into the original timeline, as if he hadn't altered it. Contradiction. Then Marty and Doc travel back to the 80s and somewhow end up in Biff's alternate timeline, although they didn't travel all the way back to the point of divergence. Then when Doc gets sent to the old west, we immediately see the effects of that with the letter, but Marty shouldn't be on that altered timeline yet. The BTTF movies are fun, but when you dig into their time travel mechanics, it's a contradictory mess, not as clean as the Bill and Ted films.

urrutiap 02-29-20 12:29 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
whatever, bud.

My theory still makes sense.

Only YOU think they dont appear on screen in Back to the Future 1.

I still think that BTTF II Marty and Doc are aroiund in Back to the Future 1 in certain places like young Biff's garage and BTTF II Doc doing whatever during the daytime

There was alot going on at night during the storm besides the dance anyway

TomOpus 02-29-20 12:46 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 

Originally Posted by urrutiap (Post 13695527)
whatever, bud.

My theory still makes sense.

Only YOU think they dont appear on screen in Back to the Future 1.

Provide screenshots and timestamps, please.

Groucho 02-29-20 01:33 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 13694960)
You're right, I must've confused it with the explosion of Alderaan. Looking at that explosion, there's a big chunk that flies up and to the left.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...f0015a76ab.jpg
Up, and to the left. Up, and to the left. Up, and to the left.


Josh-da-man 02-29-20 01:44 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
The Death Star explosion was an inside job. There was a rebel sympathizer involved in the construction who sabotaged it.

candyrocket786 02-29-20 04:33 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
Thor.

Odin's horse had 6 legs.😲

Mondo Kane 11-09-21 07:47 PM

Re: Movie moments you just noticed
 
The Exorcist
Regan's mom & The Doctor reacting to the stench made by the demon during the hypnosis scene.

ViewAskewbian 11-10-21 07:48 AM

Re: Movie moments you just noticed
 
Was watching Friday the 13th Part 4 - The Final Chapter and noticed for the first time that Crispin Glover's character, for some unknown reason, is making a weird statue out of Cheesies. Ohhh, that wacky Crispin. :p

GoldenJCJ 11-10-21 08:19 AM

Re: Movie moments you just noticed
 
This local fisherman messing with Hooper by blowing on his neck. WTF? :lol:

At about the :20 mark:


tanman 11-10-21 09:34 PM

Re: Movie moments you just noticed
 
:lol: I feel like part of the beauty of older movies is wackydoo stuff like this. Not everything is was so intricately planned out it's so there were a lot more rare for opportunities randomness like this. Or maybe that was Speiielberg's brilliant direction?


Edit: OMG what the hell was wrong with me when I wrote this.

movieguru 11-11-21 10:11 AM

Re: Movie moments you just noticed
 
I was watching a clip of Superman: The Movie on Youtube a few months back and there was a scene in Luthor's lair when he was showing Superman a map of what would be the new West Coast if the bomb went off successfully. On the map were different names for new cities, most of which were named after Luthor. But one of the areas was named "Teschmacher Peaks" named after his well endowed female sidekick. Didn't notice the pun when I watched it in the theaters at seven years old or in subsequent tv and vhs/ dvd viewings of the movie.

tanman 11-25-21 01:52 AM

Re: Movie moments you just noticed
 
Just introduced my daughter to Home Alone. Never noticed the name of the officer who blew off Kevin's mom was named Officer Balzak.

Mondo Kane 02-10-25 02:49 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
RoboCop
Bare-breasted dancers in the dance club-scene (Never noticed it til it was pointed out in "RoboDoc")

The Elephant Man
The bloody, crazed fight between the two women in the hospital was likely set up by Bates just so he can sneak deep into the hospital. You get the impression that he only lives to control people and this was his scheme to retrieve his greatest "Treasure", John Merrick.

GoldenJCJ 02-10-25 03:05 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
My son has never seen all the Marvel movies so I’ve been watching them with him from the beginning. We just watched Thor the other night and near the end, Thor calls Agent Coulson “Son of Coul” which made me laugh. I missed it the first couple times I watched the movie.

Bacon 09-13-25 06:36 AM

Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 
I was on my lunch break yesterday and the original Overboard was on TV in the break room, I never noticed until yesterday but on the chalk board when the kids and Goldie Hawn are meeting with the principal it said "It takes 3,400,032,000 erasers laid end to end to reach from the Earth to the Moon."

rw2516 09-13-25 07:28 AM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 
Mary Poppins.
Seen it many times. First time I watched the BD I noticed that the kite Mr. Banks is holding at the end has been repaired/patched with pages of newspaper. The Financial Times I think. Before I'd thought it was plain paper.

Not until I saw League of Ungentlemanly Warfare did I recognize that Bond and M's relationship is military. At least in the Connery movies. Bond stands at military attention in M's office until M tells him "st ease 007'. Then Bond relaxes.

tanman 09-13-25 10:24 PM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 
Just noticed watching Jaws in IMAX. One of the shark books Brody is looking at has a picture of a great white with an oxygen tank in it's mouth foreshadowing the ending.

zOOmz 09-13-25 10:59 PM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 
A few years ago I started collecting photos of bathtubs, mostly with famous people in them. I find them here and there, or see them in a movie and capture the scene.. Or some are fine art paintings. A whole lot of movies have bathtub scenes, it is like a movie filler, I guess. I have 160 tubs so far. Here is a sampling...

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...1752ef2bdd.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e0c956cc64.jpg


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...b449f334b3.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...12877ae1f1.jpg
Alison Hayes (50 ft Woman)

devilshalo 09-14-25 12:35 AM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 

Originally Posted by tanman (Post 14643612)
Just noticed watching Jaws in IMAX. One of the shark books Brody is looking at has a picture of a great white with an oxygen tank in it's mouth foreshadowing the ending.

It's not a great white nor is it a scuba tank. It's from the February 1968 National Geographic. It's a dusky shark with a bite meter.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...673baaa38.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...acc2547a4.jpeg

tanman 09-14-25 03:37 AM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 
Nice thanks clearing that up! You must have missed me asking about it in the Jaws thread. I was wondering why they would have a picture of a shark with a scuba tank in it's mouth. I thought maybe the picture was faked.

Michael Corvin 09-14-25 07:43 AM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 
I mean, clearly that was intentional on Spielberg's part, right? This was 1975 when people didn't know about sharks, nor would they know the difference between a scuba tank and bite meter.

tanman 09-14-25 10:19 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
It's 2025 and I was watching on IMAX and still didn't see the difference between a scuba tank and a bite meter. But that could be more due to my ignorance. If I ever meet him I'll ask him. And then I'll trigger his PTSD and then he'll go hide on the Orca on the Universal Backlot tour again.

RocShemp 09-14-25 11:20 PM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 

Originally Posted by candyrocket786 (Post 13695591)
Thor.

Odin's horse had 6 legs.😲

Actually, Sleipnir has 8 legs. Also, it's a shame the MCU films never delved into who was Sleipnir's mother in Norse mythology. :lol:

Inhumans99 09-15-25 10:35 AM

Re: Things You Just Noticed...
 
I want to join in on thanking devilshalo for pointing out what the device in the shark's mouth is, I had no clue. Neat to know this.

Next, I love this thread.

I believe that I and many others mentioned this many years back, but in the early days of the El Capitan theater I remember when Disney made a big deal out of the re-release of TRON on the big screen. My brother treated me to Tron at the El Capitan and one of the things that I never noticed before (and I had seen this film many times on VHS, it got a lot of play in my household, partly because my Dad was a computer genius) is that on one of the computer screens shown in the film you see the Pac Man character opening/closing its mouth as it is ready to chomp down on pellets/ghosts, and that got a nice chuckle from the theater audience. It was my first time seeing Tron on the big screen so stuff like that became noticeable and I also came out of the film with a new appreciation of how incredible Tron is as a film.

In fact, this Tron Pac Man sighting was probably brought up in this very thread, but that is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this thread was bumped.

Ash Ketchum 09-15-25 02:46 PM

Re: Small things in movies you've never noticed before?
 

Originally Posted by zOOmz (Post 14643615)
A few years ago I started collecting photos of bathtubs, mostly with famous people in them. I find them here and there, or see them in a movie and capture the scene.. Or some are fine art paintings. A whole lot of movies have bathtub scenes, it is like a movie filler, I guess. I have 160 tubs so far. Here is a sampling...









https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...12877ae1f1.jpg
Alison Hayes (50 ft Woman)

Just think how awesome ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN would have been if she'd been covered in soap suds.


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