It's just a movie right?
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I have a question: Why do the two of you continue to argue in this thread? Both of you raised valid points yet neither of you see eye to eye or are willing to agree with the other. I think that is clear. Why push it any farther? In any case, I agree that life is sometimes boring. I know my life is. I'm not afraid to say that. I watch movies, on some level, just to fill a void. Most people do. Two hours of entertainment can make the rest of an otherwise uneventful day filled with work seem somewhat worthwhile. It's not pathetic or sad that I'm saying this either. There are moments in my life that would work as 'blockbuster material' or at the very least an interesting indie flick, or like said - a TV mini-series. Would I want to watch it though? No, Not really... As for life being edited, also true. As for film's (no matter how fictional or unrealistic they may seem) also being capable of showing signs of familiarity - of real life? Also true. I agree with both of you.
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Why direct your comment at me then? How does it help the OP to ask me to "Point out a movie that is 100% real"?
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
You may be responding to my questions, but you're not answering them.
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
They're as much "written" as any of life's events are. I assumed you were using a loose analogy between fictional drama and the drama of real life when you said "Real life is never nearly as well written." If you didn't intend to analogize there, what did you mean by this expression?
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
In what case?
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
You said previously, "I know I can't edit out the boring parts of my life." Was this merely theoretical then?
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Statements like "I watch movies to get away from real life" and "I know I can't edit out the boring parts of my life" sound like signs of dissatisfaction to me.
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Odd to reference it then, but okay, good for you; me neither.
Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
I never suggested anyone would want to see a movie about your life, but I have no doubt that you'll accumulate enough experiences in your life to fill several hours of small screen television drama, if not necessarily the makings of a summer blockbuster.
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Originally Posted by GenPion
I have a question: Why do the two of you continue to argue in this thread? Both of you raised valid points yet neither of you see eye to eye or are willing to agree with the other. I think that is clear. Why push it any farther?
In any case, I agree that life is sometimes boring. I know my life is. I'm not afraid to say that. I watch movies, on some level, just to fill a void. Most people do. Two hours of entertainment can make the rest of an otherwise uneventful day filled with work seem somewhat worthwhile. It's not pathetic or sad that I'm saying this either.
There are moments in my life that would work as 'blockbuster material' or at the very least an interesting indie flick, or like said - a TV mini-series. Would I want to watch it though? No, Not really...
As for life being edited, also true. As for film's (no matter how fictional or unrealistic they may seem) also being capable of showing signs of familiarity - of real life? Also true. I agree with both of you.
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
I might be wrong, but I think Brack is not saying HIS real life is boring but watching someone else's real life could be boring. As an example, say you're sitting in a chair reading a good book. You're not bored because you're enjoying the book. But say someone filmed you sitting there reading the book. Watching that film for 2 hours might be boring.
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
I love my work, my wife and friends, and my hobbies. I can't recall the last time I was bored. I don't think of films as filling a void, but rather as an interest vying for my limited time. If I saw my life the way you describe seeing yours, I think I'd start self-medicating, but I'm glad you feel otherwise about your life. Honestly.
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Brack, so as to spare GenPion, let's agree to disagree, though I'm not really sure exactly what it is we disagree about.
Oh, and as to how I avoided Click, I don't watch TV (ever); I don't go to movies that would have that as a trailer; and, I don't click on banners for films like that.
Oh, and as to how I avoided Click, I don't watch TV (ever); I don't go to movies that would have that as a trailer; and, I don't click on banners for films like that.
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Brack, so as to spare GenPion, let's agree to disagree, though I'm not really sure exactly what it is we disagree about.
Oh, and as to how I avoided Click, I don't watch TV (ever); I don't go to movies that would have that as a trailer; and, I don't click on banners for films like that.
Oh, and as to how I avoided Click, I don't watch TV (ever); I don't go to movies that would have that as a trailer; and, I don't click on banners for films like that.
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Originally Posted by Brack
You don't have to click on the banner ads these days. Videos just pop up on IMDB.
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
Oh, and as to how I avoided Click, I don't watch TV (ever); I don't go to movies that would have that as a trailer
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Originally Posted by Trevor
Not since ten years ago when they invented pop-up blockers and the like.
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Originally Posted by The Bus
You know, there's good stuff on TV and widely-distributed movies too.
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I'm with Brack on this whole discussion. I love my life but there are times that aren't 100% fun. For me, fun is any time I can be with my friends, doing whatever it is we want to do. That can't always happen. The other times are when I put on movies, watch TV, go on the internet etc. They keep me entertained and keep me from getting bored. All film is for me is entertainment. Whether the movie is Transformers or Citizen Kane, I am watching it to be entertained. I can appreciate art and I can appreciate learning something when I watch a movie. However, if the art and lessons don't keep me entertained for 2 hours I'm not going to bother watching it.
Also, if I take the most fun part of my life (a 4 day vacation at the beach with friends) it would not come close to being an entertaining movie/tv show. Even if edited to the best parts. Simply because there was no plot, drama or conflict. The best moments of my life usually lack drama. Take the most stressful moments of my life that is filled with drama and it wouldn't be anything special either since they are mostly problems that everyone faces.
Also, if I take the most fun part of my life (a 4 day vacation at the beach with friends) it would not come close to being an entertaining movie/tv show. Even if edited to the best parts. Simply because there was no plot, drama or conflict. The best moments of my life usually lack drama. Take the most stressful moments of my life that is filled with drama and it wouldn't be anything special either since they are mostly problems that everyone faces.
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Originally Posted by Goat3001
I'm with Brack on this whole discussion. I love my life but there are times that aren't 100% fun. For me, fun is any time I can be with my friends, doing whatever it is we want to do. That can't always happen. The other times are when I put on movies, watch TV, go on the internet etc.
I personally watch films for all the above reasoning. Transformers (for example) can be watched just for the sheer enjoyment ......... effects, home theater quality (audio), what have you. Anything else (script, acting, cinematography) with respect to a film such as Transformers is just a bonus.
Though I can spin up film such as Vibrator which is a slice of life dramatic struggle about a "what and who am I type of" film. From there I can analyze as much as I would like, for better or worse. It's all about the type of film. Is it a meaningless action/sci-fi film or an all accompanying one where some practical logic and understanding is necessary?
If you (OP) can't decipher the difference then I'm not sure there's an hope. There are so many films available which should suit just about any taste .. that I can not understand why some level of enjoyment could be attained .... even if it were for only a small number of films. I mean shit, forget Hollywood, my bread and butter is contemporary and classical Japanese films. And I'll revert back to my original question ........ give us examples of the films that you have a problem with. I'd like to better understand your dilemma ...
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Originally Posted by Yakuza Bengoshi
What would this "100% real" movie be then?
For example today I got up, showered and my roommate and I drove about an hour to look at a building I'm thinking about buying. On the way home we stopped at a restaurant for lunch. When we got back he took a shower and I putzed around on the computer for a while. Then we watched the Packer game. After that we watched the New England game. When that was over we watched a little bit of Terminator 2 on tv and he went to bed. After he went to bed I got on the computer and am now posting in this thread.
Yesterday I got up, went to work, came home, took a shower, went to watch a high school basketball game and after that met some people out a bar, had some drinks and talked about things I can't remember today.
That was my weekend. I didn't find it boring in the least because I wanted to do everything I that ended up doing, but can you imagine what that would look like on film?
When I watch a movie I don't want to see things that I do on a daily basis. I want to see robots blowing stuff up or I want to see morons getting themselves into ridiculous situations while saying something funny, or I want to see what it was like fighting in World War II, or I want to see somebody with more "skills" than I have pick up a woman, do something to lose her and then in the final 5 minutes of the movie win her back.
Movies have always been an escape from reality for people.
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Originally Posted by visitor Q
Either way (life sucks or it doesn't) I think that people watch films for either (or all) .... entertainment, knowledge, diversion, introspection .... etc.
Watching mine or someone elses life daily routine on film would most probably bore me. Right now, I'm watching Boiler Room. I'm a stockbroker and its always a good time to watch the movie and compare it to work. Its incredibly similar except for the major plot point. Its the plot point that makes the film a film. There is no plot at my job. Its just a job. No one wants to watch someone do it on film.