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Old 03-11-18, 02:48 PM
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I'm sure l'll be ostracized from the nerd community here but I admit I've never seen any of the Dune movies/ miniseries' nor have I read any of the books. Being a big fan of Villeneuve however, means I'll be sure to see this new movie.

For some reason I fully expect to see an update in a couple of months that Villeneuve dropped out of the project though. We'll see.
The first few books are pretty good, very roughly analogous to Game of Thrones in space, i.e. powerful houses plotting and scheming for power and control, with one house being the "good" one like the Starks.

The books do get increasingly weirder as they go on though.

My favourite adaptation so far was the Scifi Children of Dune miniseries, which adapted the 2nd and 3rd novels. A pre-famous James McAvoy was the lead, and he was really good, slight Scottish accent notwithstanding.
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Old 03-11-18, 02:56 PM
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I love the Lynch movie, itís too bad how it gets crapped on; Harlon Ellison wrote about how the movie was maligned when it first came out yet he enjoyed it very much.
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Old 03-11-18, 03:04 PM
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Lynch and Freddy Francis made it beautiful to look at. I loved to designs they have us and the sets were awesome. A hell of a lot of the effects stand up today also. The music by Toto and Brian Eno was really great and we had a wonderful cast. I think of very little about the movie I don't like. Even Sting is pretty great, even though he does have that one scene in the space undies. I know that Jadorowsky said he was overjoyed when he saw it that it was so awful, but I am not sure his version would have been all that great. He certainly had amazing talent involved, and it looked incredibly interesting on paper, but I think it would have had very little resemblance to the book.
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Old 03-12-18, 01:30 PM
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I know that Jadorowsky said he was overjoyed when he saw it that it was so awful, but I am not sure his version would have been all that great. He certainly had amazing talent involved, and it looked incredibly interesting on paper, but I think it would have had very little resemblance to the book.
I agree.
After watching the documentary about his version, I cannot see how it would have been anything but a Jadorowsky Dune rather than a Frank Herbert Dune.
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Lynch’s movie had great visuals but I’d hardly call it genius. And I love David Lynch.
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I agree.
After watching the documentary about his version, I cannot see how it would have been anything but a Jadorowsky Dune rather than a Frank Herbert Dune.
Very true.

It probably would have been a glorious clusterfuck.
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Old 03-12-18, 07:11 PM
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I was talking with a friend last night about who we think should play Paul Atreides and we both think that the only young actor who matches the needed qualities: 1) Good physical condition 2) Good actor, 3) Looks like someone who could lead people into battle is Michael B. Jordan. Hey, it takes place many years in the future, give it a shot I say.
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I was talking with a friend last night about who we think should play Paul Atreides and we both think that the only young actor who matches the needed qualities: 1) Good physical condition 2) Good actor, 3) Looks like someone who could lead people into battle is Michael B. Jordan. Hey, it takes place many years in the future, give it a shot I say.
It's been a while since I read the book but - isn't Paul a teenager?
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Old 03-13-18, 09:58 AM
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It's been a while since I read the book but - isn't Paul a teenager?
Yes, he was.
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Old 03-13-18, 04:34 PM
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It probably would have been a glorious clusterfuck.
My thought exactly.
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It's been a while since I read the book but - isn't Paul a teenager?
Yes he is, in the 2nd book he becomes an adult.

I am trying to think of a known actor who could pull that off...
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Old 05-25-18, 11:48 AM
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A proper film adaptation of Frank Herbert’s landmark sci-fi work Dune has plagued even some of our most imaginative filmmakers for years. Alejandro Jodorowsky sunk so much of himself into his aborted 1973 adaptation that it later begat the documentary Jodrowsky’s Dune. David Lynch’s endlessly disputed 1984 rendition made it to theaters, and is argued by many to be one of Lynch’s lesser films, for all of its visual invention. Multiple film versions were rumored in recent years, with Peter Berg attached at one point, but now it seems that Denis Villeneuve, fresh off his masterful Blade Runner 2049, will be the director to do it.

In what might prove beneficial, given the scope of Dune as a story, Villeneuve recently confirmed that he plans to split the adaptation into two films, still likely to be substantial in length each. While speaking to the Quebec publication La Presse, he mentioned the news while touching on the process of turning Herbert’s 896-page epic into a cohesive feature (or set of them): “Eric Roth wrote the first draft and I worked on my side afterwards… I have not had such fun on the creative side since Incendies! My wish would have been to make both films at the same time, but it will be too expensive. We will do them one at a time.”

Production has not yet kicked off on Villeneuve’s ambitious undertaking, but if 2049 and Arrival are any indication, there may not be a better-suited director working today to bring something as truly far-reaching as Dune to new life.
https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/...ve-dune-split/
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I can't fathom how getting all those sets and props, not to mention all those actors together on two separate occasions is any easier than paying a little more upfront to film it all at once. (I'm still flabbergasted the new Star Wars sequels weren't done all together either.)

But they seem confident, so here's hoping we seem something cool in a couple years.
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I have never gotten the Dune thing. It is not an especially interesting story in my view and I will wager this version will suck as well. So many more worthy things to film that would be fresh in SciFi and Fantasy
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I can't fathom how getting all those sets and props, not to mention all those actors together on two separate occasions is any easier than paying a little more upfront to film it all at once.
It's not.
But they seem confident, so here's hoping we seem something cool in a couple years.
A 2-parter?
This is a square peg into a round hole and all...DV and the producers need to quit fighting the uphill battle and turn this into an HBO or Amazon (preferably) series.
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It's not.

A 2-parter?
This is a square peg into a round hole and all...DV and the producers need to quit fighting the uphill battle and turn this into an HBO or Amazon (preferably) series.
Oh, I certainly agree there, but Villeneuve did a bang-up job on Blade Runner 2049 so I think this could work well also.

I know BR 2049 didn't do well at the box office, but it seems to be getting a cult gathering like the original, and I would wager Dune has a bigger audience due to the original books being such iconic works of fiction (plus, somebody has to keep buying all those new Dune books that they keep writing more of them).

I'm still optimistic for this.
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If they turn it into "art-house sci-fi" then it will bomb, too. I liked Bladerunner 2049, but unless you're a fan of the source material, first film, etc., then it is not easily accessible. Hell, the world of Dune is even more dense.
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Oh, I certainly agree there, but Villeneuve did a bang-up job on Blade Runner 2049 so I think this could work well also.
DV is a very talented filmmaker...no question there.
The Arrival was excellent.
BR 2049 was very good, in spite of not having a lot of re-watchability for me.

I would wager Dune has a bigger audience due to the original books being such iconic works of fiction (plus, somebody has to keep buying all those new Dune books that they keep writing more of them).
Dune has always had a BIG international following.
It is the best selling Sci-fi book of all time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(franchise)

BTW, under the contract between the Herbert Family and Legendary Pictures there is, in addition to the film project, supposed to be TV projects:
http://www.dunenovels.com/articles/l...es-rights-dune
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If they turn it into "art-house sci-fi" then it will bomb, too. I liked Bladerunner 2049, but unless you're a fan of the source material, first film, etc., then it is not easily accessible. Hell, the world of Dune is even more dense.
Exactly why a TV series is needed.
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If they turn it into "art-house sci-fi" then it will bomb, too. I liked Bladerunner 2049, but unless you're a fan of the source material, first film, etc., then it is not easily accessible. Hell, the world of Dune is even more dense.
Cerebral Sci Fi has never really done well at the box office.
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^^^ True.
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Cerebral Sci Fi has never really done well at the box office.
Not sure if you count 2001, but it was #1 in 1968.
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This is going to be amazing just like Blade Runner 2049...it is also going to do terrible at the box office just like Blade Runner 2049. All that really matter so to me is that I like it and if they split it into two parts both get made.
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It will bomb then they're going to wonder why it bombed. $$$$$$
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It will bomb then they're going to wonder why it bombed. $$$$$$
Yes it will.
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Not sure if you count 2001, but it was #1 in 1968.
That was also 50 years ago...

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It will bomb then they're going to wonder why it bombed. $$$$$$
As a big fan of the novels, I hope it doesn't...but I feel ya.
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That was also 50 years ago...
The post said "never" and, last time I checked, 50 years still falls within that timeframe.
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