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Old 12-08-07, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979
Are we posting critic and critic groups top ten lists in this thread or should someone start a new one?

Jeff Wells of Hollywood Elsewhere posted his top 10 this morning:

Jeff Well's Top 10 of 2007
I noticed he has "There Will Be Blood" at #8. After seeing the new trailer a few times, I'm very anxious to watch this. I hope it lives up to my expectations.
Old 12-08-07, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rypro 525
Anyone else think that La Viv En Rose can get a few nods like Actress and Forgien Language film? I'd also love to see Lust Caution get a couple of nods as well, but its prob wishfull thinking.
I think it will definitely get a nomination in Foreign Language Film. As for Marion Cotillard, she definitely deserves a nomination for Actress... but the Academy usually short-changes foreign films so I can see her getting snubbed.
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Originally Posted by Coral
I think it will definitely get a nomination in Foreign Language Film. As for Marion Cotillard, she definitely deserves a nomination for Actress... but the Academy usually short-changes foreign films so I can see her getting snubbed.
As I mentioned a few posts above, the movie is not eligible for Foreign Language Film. And while the Academy in general does short-change foreign films, the actors' branch usually does not - look over the nominations in the past several years and you'll see quite a few nominations for foreign-language performances in smaller films (especially for actresses, for some reason - Rinko Kikuchi and Penelope Cruz last year, for example.) She's a lock.
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Why wasn't it eligible?
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i'd really like to see Into The Wild walk away with a couple awards.

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Old 12-09-07, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rypro 525
Why wasn't it eligible?
As MoviePage also mentioned, France submitted Persepolis for consideration instead. A country is allowed to submit one film.

I think the reason you see more actresses nominated for roles in foreign films is because there are just fewer quality roles for women overall.
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Originally Posted by Drexl
As MoviePage also mentioned, France submitted Persepolis for consideration instead. A country is allowed to submit one film.

I think the reason you see more actresses nominated for roles in foreign films is because there are just fewer quality roles for women overall.
And because everyone is still sour over the Academy choosing Roberto Benigni over Ian McKellen. That is the kind of choice that would probably erase any notion of another foreign actor winning Best Actor anytime soon. And the fact that Best Actor is always loaded every year in English language films.
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Jeff Daniels for The Lookout
Steve Zahn for Rescue Dawn
Best Supporting Actor
Old 12-09-07, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
And because everyone is still sour over the Academy choosing Roberto Benigni over Ian McKellen. That is the kind of choice that would probably erase any notion of another foreign actor winning Best Actor anytime soon. And the fact that Best Actor is always loaded every year in English language films.
I like to think that they've forgotten about the Benigni thing and blocked it out of their minds by now, like the rest of the world has. Most of these voters probably can't even remember what won or who they voted for last year. I don't think Roberto Benigni has any bearing on whether or not somebody gets nominated these days. Or on anything else for that matter.

I think a strong performance should speak for itself and be recognized if it should be, regardless of what language it's in. But sadly, you're right that voters are probably more likely to watch a movie in English and nominate the usual suspects, instead of actually expanding their horizons a little bit. The last male foreign-language performance to be nominated was Javier Bardem in Before Night Falls in 2000. Benicio Del Toro also won that same year for Traffic for a role that was mostly non-English, but that's a whole different situation.
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Originally Posted by Patman
Don't know why, but I'm sort of getting tired of the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp/Helena Bonham Carter productions (they all feel sort of dark and dreary to me).
Thats because they are.
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Yes, but joyfully dark and dreary.
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Originally Posted by Kashmir
Jeff Daniels for The Lookout
Steve Zahn for Rescue Dawn
Best Supporting Actor
Those would be 2 of my picks as well. I'm sure Daniels will get overlooked just like the movie itself did in theatres but I really liked that movie and his performance.

Also i say its a safe bet that Paul Dano will get a nomination for There Will Be Blood. Also i would pick:
Javier Bardem for No Country for Old Men
and
P.S. Hoffman for Charlie Wilson's War

will also get noms. in supp. actor this year.
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Originally Posted by MoviePage
And while the Academy in general does short-change foreign films, the actors' branch usually does not - look over the nominations in the past several years and you'll see quite a few nominations for foreign-language performances in smaller films (especially for actresses, for some reason - Rinko Kikuchi and Penelope Cruz last year, for example.)
Well you can bet Rinko Kikuchi's nomination has a lot to do with this being a film that also stars Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett, which makes the Academy take notice since there's a decent American element to it. Would Penelope Cruz be nominated if she wasn't a name in Hollywood? Don't get me wrong, they both deserved their nominations - but the Academy seems to require some American influence to the films to usually take notice.

Ulrich Mühe didn't receive a nomination for The Lives of Others, and neither did Bruno Ganz for Downfall. Those are as large a snub as you're going to get in the acting categories. This definitely isn't anything new with the Oscars.
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Boston Society of Film Critics winners:

Best Picture
No Country For Old Men

Best Actor
Frank Langella for Starting Out in the Evening

Best Actress
Marion Cotillard for La Vie en Rose

Best Supporting Actor
Javier Bardem for No Country for Old Men

Best Supporting Actress
Amy Ryan for Gone Baby Gone

Best Director
Julian Schnabel for The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Best Screenplay
Brad Bird for Ratatouille

Best Cinematography
Janusz Kaminski for The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Best Documentary
Crazy Love

Best Foreign-Language Film
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Best New Filmmaker
Ben Affleck for Gone Baby Gone

Best Ensemble Cast
Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
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Don't know if these have been posted yet -- LA Film Critics Awards:

2007 LAFCA Awards

Best Picture: "There Will Be Blood"
Runner-up: "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"

Director: Paul Thomas Anderson, "There Will Be Blood"
Runner-up: Julian Schnabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"

Actress: Marion Cotillard, "La Vie En Rose"
Runner-up: Anamaria Marinca "4 months, 3 weeks and 2 days"

Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis, "There Will Be Blood"
Runner-up: Frank Langella, "Starting Out In The Evening"

Screenplay: Tamara Jenkins, "The Savages"
Runner-up:Paul Thomas Anderson for "There Will Be Blood"

Supporting actress: Amy Ryan for "Gone Baby Gone" and "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead"
Runner-up: Cate Blanchett, "I'm Not There"

Supporting actor: Vlad Ivanov, "4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days"
Runner-up: Hal Holbrook, "Into the Wild"

Foreign language film: "4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days"
Runner-up: "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"

Documentary/Non-fiction film: "No End in Sight" directed by Charles Ferguson
Runner-up: "Sicko" directed by Michael Moore

Production design:Jack Fisk, "There Will Be Blood"
Runner-up: Dante Ferretti, "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street"

Animation: "Persepolis" and "Ratatouille" (tie)

Music: Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova, "Once"
Runner-up: Jonny Greenwood, "There Will Be Blood"

Cinematography: Janusz Kaminski, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"
Runner-up: Robert Elswit, "There Will Be Blood"

New generation: Sarah Polley, "Away From Her"

Douglas Edwards Indie Award: "Colossal Youth" directed by Pedro Costa

Career Achievement: Sidney Lumet

Legacy Awards: Milestone Film and Video and the Outfest Legacy Project
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I guess we can safely pencil Langella in as a Best Actor likely nomination now.

Where's the love for Roger Deakins?
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Another Amy Ryan win over Cate Blanchett.
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Originally Posted by Coral
Well you can bet Rinko Kikuchi's nomination has a lot to do with this being a film that also stars Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett, which makes the Academy take notice since there's a decent American element to it. Would Penelope Cruz be nominated if she wasn't a name in Hollywood? Don't get me wrong, they both deserved their nominations - but the Academy seems to require some American influence to the films to usually take notice.
I would disagree that they require American influence to the films. They just require enough beating over the head via marketing and critical support for them to take notice. Although you are correct about Babel and Cruz.

Ulrich Mühe didn't receive a nomination for The Lives of Others, and neither did Bruno Ganz for Downfall. Those are as large a snub as you're going to get in the acting categories. This definitely isn't anything new with the Oscars.
Agreed, both were nomination-worthy performances. However, I think it is also significant that neither of those won any of the key critical awards that would have raised the necessary awareness to make nominations possible. Compare those to recent foreign-language performers such as Fernanda Montenegro, Javier Bardem, and Catalina Sandino Moreno, who did get wins or nominations from important precursors and went on to score Oscar nominations. None of their movies had "American influence." It's all about awareness.
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Washington DC Film Critics .. "No Country" sweeps (can't fucking wait to see this film now)

BEST PICTURE
Winner: No Country for Old Men

BEST DIRECTOR
Winner: Ethan and Joel Coen (No Country for Old Men)

BEST ACTOR
Winner: George Clooney (Michael Clayton)

BEST ACTRESS
Winner: Julie Christie (Away from Her)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Winner: Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Winner: Amy Ryan (Gone Baby Gone and Before the Devil Knows You're Dead)

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Winner: Diablo Cody (Juno)

BEST ENSEMBLE
Winner: No Country for Old Men

BEST ANIMATED FILM
Winner: Ratatouille

BEST DOCUMENTARY FILM
Winner:

BEST ART DIRECTION
Winner: Sweeney Todd

BEST BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE
Winner: Ellen Page (Juno)
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New York Film Critics Online:

Best Picture: (tie)
There Will Be Blood & The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Best Actor
Daniel Day Lewis for There Will Be Blood

Best Actress:
Julie Christie for Away from Her

Director
PT Anderson for There Will Be Blood

Supporting actress:
Cate Blanchett for I'm Not There

Supporting Actor
Javier Bardem for No Country for Old Men

Breakthrough Performer
Ellen Page for Juno

Debut Director
Sarah Polley for Away from Her

Ensemble Cast
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead

Screenplay
Wes Anderson, Jason Schwartzman, Roman Coppola for The Darjeeling Limited

Documentary
Sicko

Foreign Language: (tie)
Lives of Others & Persepolis

Animated
Persepolis

Cinematography
Robert Elswit for There Will Be Blood

Film Music
Jonny Greenwood for There Will Be Blood

Top Ten Films:

Atonement (Focus Features)
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (THINKFilm)
The Darjeeling Limited (Fox Searchlight)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Miramax)
I'm Not There (The Weinstein Company)
Juno (Fox Searchlight)
Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.)
No Country for Old Men (Miramax)
Persepolis (Sony Pictures Classics)
Sweeney Todd (DreamWorks)
There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage)
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With five significant sets of critics' winners out, I decided to collate together who's won what so far to determine the frontrunners (Top 5 in each catergory also shared by Oscar). I'll update this list after every couple of groups of winners for people interested in keeping track of who's in line for the Academy Awards.

Picture
1. No Country For Old Men (NBR, BSFC, WDCFC)
2. There Will Be Blood (NYFCO: tie, LAFCA)
3. The Diving Bell And The Butterfly (NYFCO: tie, LAFCA: runner-up)

Director
1. Paul Thomas Anderson, “There Will Be Blood” (NYFCO, LAFCA)
2. Julian Scnabel, “The Diving Bell And The Butterfly” (BSFC, LAFCA: runner-up)
3. Tim Burton, “Sweeny Todd” (NBR)
3. Joel & Ethan Coen, “No Country For Old Men” (WDCFC)

Actor
1. Daniel Day-Lewis, “There Will Be Blood” (NYFCO, LAFCA)
1. George Clooey, “Michael Clayton” (NBR, WDCFC)
3. Frank Langella, “Starting Out In The Evening” (BSFC, LAFCA: runner-up)

Actress
1. Julie Christie, “Away From Her” (NBR, NYFCO, WDCFC)
2. Marion Cottilard, “La Vie En Rose” (BSFC, LAFCA)
3. Anamaria Marinca, “4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days” (LAFCA: runner-up)

Supporting Actor
1. Javier Bardem, “No Country For Old Men” (BSFC, NYFCO, WDCFC)
2. Casey Affleck, “The Assassination Of Jesse James ...” (NBR)
2. Vlad Ivanov, “4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days” (LAFCA)
4. Hal Holbrook, “Into The Wild” (LAFCA: runner-up)

Supporting Actress
1. Amy Ryan, “Gone Baby Gone” (NBR, BSFC, LAFCA: tie, WDCFC: tie)
2. Cate Blanchett, “I’m Not There” (NYFCO, LAFCA: runner-up)
3. Amy Ryan, “Before The Devil Knows You’re Dead”, (LAFCA: tie, WDCFC: tie)

Screenplay
1. Juno (NBR: tie, WDCFC)
2. No Country For Old Men (NBR)
2. Ratatouille (BSFC)
2. The Darjeeling Limited (NYFCO)
2. The Savages (LAFCA)

Animation
1. Ratatouille (NBR, LAFCA: tie, WDCFC)
2. Persepolis (NYFCO, LAFCA: tie)

Documentary
1. Sicko (NYFCO, LAFCA: tie)
2. Body Of War (NBR)
2. Crazy Love (BSFC)
2. No End In Sight (LAFCA)

Foreign Film
1. The Diving Bell And The Butterfly (NBR, BSFC, WDCFC)
2. Persepolis (NYFCO: tie)
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I haven't seen all of them including No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood, but Gone Baby Gone is pretty much the best film I've seen this year.
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Just caught "Rescue Dawn" from Netflix. I know it won't happen, but my God Christian Bale turned in a riveting performance.
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Who is Amy Ryan? Another one of those actresses that comes out of nowhere and wins an Oscar?
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The first I knew of her was from Gone Baby Gone, where she does give a very good performance. She's on HBOs "The Wire". She's also in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead and Dan in Real Life. It's been a busy 2007.

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