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Old 01-22-08, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Beware the Hal Holbrook "Lifetime Achievement" Award.

Just warning you, so you don't get too nauseous on Oscar Night.
Indeed ... if "No Country" sweeps Editing, Writing, Directing, and Picture ... well, Bardem could be the unlucky one and be passed over if voters feel they've given the film it's due.
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Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
Holbrook WAS amazing. The part where
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He offers to adopt Chris and you see that tear roll down his eye as he's in the car
was heartbreaking, and proof that I won't mind if it goes either way.

Major excitement:

NCFOM is bound to grab Picture and Director (and Screenplay).

HOWEVER, I'm NOT happy about Into the Wild getting shut out, and TLJ not getting a NCFOM nomination. And Enchanted gets 60% of the Best Song share...WTF!? Into the Wild gets shut out by that! Now it makes me even more willing to have "Falling Slowly" win.
actually... I am ...
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Johnny Depp is due a oscar.
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
Adding them up, for the most nominations:

"No Country For Old Men" 8
"There Will Be Blood" 8
"Atonement" 7
"Michael Clayton" 7
"Ratatouille" 5
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" 4
"Juno" 4
I'm so glad "that rat movie" from June did so well this year at the Oscars. It was my favourite film of the year and I'm glad it's getting it's recognition. To answer an earlier question, it didn't surprise me at all that Bird's screenplay showed up with a nomination -- the WGA rules out animated film for its noms (don't ask me why) but the groundswell support for Bird has always been there. Hopefully it can win one other Oscar along with Best Animated Feature (my hope is Score)!
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Originally Posted by RayChuang
I think Juno and No Country for Old Men are serious Oscar candidates, especially the latter film.
"Juno" is going to be seen as "the lighter alternative" and there's going to be some serious support for it for a while, but my gut feeling is that, like every year, a more serious contender will take it out ("No Country" or "There Will Be Blood")
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re: Enchanted and Amy Adams

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I was surprised because the movie was smacked down pretty hard by the critics and it didn't do good B.O. so I didn't think she could overcome those hurdles to land a nominations, hence my surprise.
Well, Enchanted has pulled in $124 million domestically, so I can't say it was a financial disappointment (did a bit better overseas with another $150+ million).

Also, Enchanted has a 93% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, so I wouldn't characterize that film as being slammed by the critics either.

I'd rather see Amy Adams get nominated over Laura Linney in the Best Actress category.
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Originally Posted by Patman
re: Enchanted and Amy Adams



Well, Enchanted has pulled in $124 million domestically, so I can't say it was a financial disappointment (did a bit better overseas with another $150+ million).

Also, Enchanted has a 93% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, so I wouldn't characterize that film as being slammed by the critics either.

I'd rather see Amy Adams get nominated over Laura Linney in the Best Actress category.
He's referencing Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth: The Golden Age, not Enchanted.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Beware the Hal Holbrook "Lifetime Achievement" Award.

Just warning you, so you don't get too nauseous on Oscar Night.
That would be a possibility if the Academy gave Into the Wild more props. But they pretty much ignored it, so just getting nominated is good enough for Holbrook. Bardem is safe, imo.
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Originally Posted by hardercore
"Juno" is going to be seen as "the lighter alternative" and there's going to be some serious support for it for a while, but my gut feeling is that, like every year, a more serious contender will take it out ("No Country" or "There Will Be Blood")
Juno is not a threat at all against the big 2. Just like Little Miss Sunshine was never a threat to The Departed last year. That lack of an Editing nomination will come into effect again this year, just it has for the past 25+ years.
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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979
Pleasant surprise for me: Jason Reitman for Director for Juno

Unpleasant surprise: Norbit for Makeup! Ugh!

Other surprises:
Cate Blanchett for Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Laura Linney for Actress for The Savages
Casey Affleck for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Longest title ever nominated?)
Ruby Dee for Supporting Actress for American Gangster
Surf's Up for Animated Feature
Sarah Polley for Adapted Screenplay for Away From Her

For those of you surprised by Juno's nominations, have you been hiding under a rock the last month or so? Ever since it opened, it's been tipped for the top Oscars.
I was surprised by all of these nominations as well, but pleasantly surprised. Although Cate Blanchett should have won for Elizabeth (yes, sour grapes), she could win in either of these categories since they feel wide open.
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How is Juno a better directed film than Zodiac.

Why the fuck did Zodiac get such a massive snubbing anyways?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Juno is not a threat at all against the big 2. Just like Little Miss Sunshine was never a threat to The Departed last year. That lack of an Editing nomination will come into effect again this year, just it has for the past 25+ years.
Well, since TWBB and NCFOM are the front-runners, there is always a chance that they split and a third film sneaks in. I dont think it will happen, but you never know (Atonement?).
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Originally Posted by slop101
How is Juno a better directed film than Zodiac.

Why the fuck did Zodiac get such a massive snubbing anyways?
Agreed on that. It sucks that it got snubbed.
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I think Paramount should have given Zodiac an extra push - if they released the director's cut to select cities via DLP in December (the only screening I know of was at Walter Reade theatre in NYC with Fincher in attendence) - in most cases early released films always get the shaft.

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I'm starting to get the feeling that my favorite movie from this year, There Will Be Blood, is going to get the bridesmaid treatment and finish second in almost every one of its categories. Other than the Daniel Day-Lewis lock, of course.
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Like the nominations this year. Any time the Coens and PT Anderson are leading the pack is good to me.

I was suprised that Jason Reitman and Tony Gilroy got the directing nominations, but feel they deserved it. Gilroy did an amazing job with the directing, in addition to his writing, allowing the film to have its space and shock you when it does. It is one of the best reviewed films of the year, usually the director has to do a good job to get the sort of recognition that film has recieved.

Blanchett was also a shock due to the poor critical reception of the film, not her performance, coupled with the low box office take.

sad about Zodiac but this is what the academy does, they overlook great films released early in the year that the audience overlooks as well.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Juno is not a threat at all against the big 2. Just like Little Miss Sunshine was never a threat to The Departed last year. That lack of an Editing nomination will come into effect again this year, just it has for the past 25+ years.
Uhhh... that was kind of the point I made. It's going to seem like it has some support, significant support to make it a threat, but it's never actually going to be one.

And, on a side note, I'm surprised that people are still surprised with Zodiac consistently being snubbed. As well as it not being a great film in most respects (my opinion only, of course), Paramount didn't give it any significant push, starting with deciding to release it in March in the first place.

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Three fucking song nominations for Enchanted, and not a single one of the great Eddie Vedder songs from Into The Wild? What a fuckin' disgrace! The song from Once better win.
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Geez, I don't think any of the five Best Pics have premiered down here in NZ yet. I'm really dying to see "Blood" and "No Country," too. Look like great stuff.
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Happy, happy, happy! Tommy Lee Jones for "In the Valley of Elah"!! In my #2 movie of the year!
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Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
Geez, I don't think any of the five Best Pics have premiered down here in NZ yet. I'm really dying to see "Blood" and "No Country," too. Look like great stuff.
"Atonement" premiered in late September/October, as far as I can recall. "Juno", "No Country For Old Men", and "Michael Clayton" all come out on the same day: the 31st of January. "There Will Be Blood" is released on February 14th. So we'll get the chance to see all the nominees before the Oscars, which is the most important thing!
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Agreed on that. It sucks that it got snubbed.
I agree, I really wanted that Robert Downey jr gets nominated as supporting actor, he was great in it ............
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
^ Ditto on the Juno comments. It was ok, but not really Oscar worthy in my opinion.
Since it's currently 4th in my top 5 (although I haven't seen There Will Be Blood or Atonement) I'd obviously disagree.

Michael Clayton's the one I feel was OK, but nothing special.

Originally Posted by slop101
Three fucking song nominations for Enchanted, and not a single one of the great Eddie Vedder songs from Into The Wild? What a fuckin' disgrace! The song from Once better win.
Pretty typical, I liked the movie but most of the songs were pretty blah. It's kind of surprising when any non-sucky, sappy, overly sentimental songs make the list. Hopefully the Once song wins.

I like to see at least all the Best Picture and Director nominees, but I'm not sure I can bring myself to see Atonement. Is it better than the previews make it look?

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Originally Posted by Ginwen
Michael Clayton's the one I feel was OK, but nothing special.
I still need to see that and Sweeney Todd. I also plan to watch Jesse James before the Oscars are announced.
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for a comparison here's BAFTA's nominatinos:

FILM
AMERICAN GANGSTER – Brian Grazer/Ridley Scott
ATONEMENT – Tim Bevan/Eric Fellner/Paul Webster
THE LIVES OF OTHERS – Quirin Berg/Max Wiedemann
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN – Scott Rudin/Joel Coen/Ethan Coen
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – JoAnne Sellar/Paul Thomas Anderson/Daniel Lupi


BEST BRITISH FILM
ATONEMENT – Tim Bevan/Eric Fellner/Paul Webster/Joe Wright/Christopher Hampton
THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM – Frank Marshall/Patrick Crowley/Paul L Sandberg/Paul Greengrass/Tony Gilroy/Scott Z Burns/George Nolfi
CONTROL – Orian Williams/ Todd Eckert/Anton Corbijn/Matt Greenhalgh
EASTERN PROMISES – Paul Webster/Robert Lantos/David Cronenberg/Steve Knight
THIS IS ENGLAND – Mark Herbert/Shane Meadows

THE CARL FOREMAN AWARD for Special Achievement by a British Director, Writer or Producer in their First Feature Film
CHRIS ATKINS (Director/Writer) – Taking Liberties
MIA BAYS (Producer) – Scott Walker: 30 Century Man
SARAH GAVRON (Director) – Brick Lane
MATT GREENHALGH (Writer) – Control
ANDREW PIDDINGTON (Director/Writer) – The Killing of John Lennon


DIRECTOR
ATONEMENT – Joe Wright
THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM – Paul Greengrass
THE LIVES OF OTHERS – Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN – Joel Coen/Ethan Coen
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – Paul Thomas Anderson

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY

AMERICAN GANGSTER – Steven Zaillian
JUNO – Diablo Cody
THE LIVES OF OTHERS – Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
MICHAEL CLAYTON – Tony Gilroy
THIS IS ENGLAND – Shane Meadows


ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
ATONEMENT – Christopher Hampton
THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY – Ronald Harwood
THE KITE RUNNER – David Benioff
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN – Joel Coen/Ethan Coen
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – Paul Thomas Anderson

FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
nominations announced on Friday 4 January

THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY – Kathleen Kennedy/Jon Kilik/Julian Schnabel
THE KITE RUNNER – William Horberg/Walter Parkes/Rebecca Yeldham/Marc Foster
THE LIVES OF OTHERS – Quirin Berg/Max Wiedemann/Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck
LUST, CAUTION – Bill Kong/James Schamus/Ang Lee
LA VIE EN ROSE – Alain Goldman/Olivier Dahan


ANIMATED FILM

RATATOUILLE – Brad Bird
SHREK THE THIRD – Chris Miller
THE SIMPSONS MOVIE – Matt Groening/James L Brooks

LEADING ACTOR

GEORGE CLOONEY – Michael Clayton
DANIEL DAY-LEWIS – There Will Be Blood
JAMES McAVOY – Atonement
VIGGO MORTENSEN – Eastern Promises
ULRICH MάHE – The Lives of Others

LEADING ACTRESS

CATE BLANCHETT – Elizabeth: The Golden Age
JULIE CHRISTIE – Away From Her
MARION COTILLARD – La Vie en Rose
KEIRA KNIGHTLEY – Atonement
ELLEN PAGE – Juno

SUPPORTING ACTOR

JAVIER BARDEM – No Country for Old Men
PAUL DANO – There Will Be Blood
TOMMY LEE JONES – No Country for Old Men
PHILIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN – Charlie Wilson’s War
TOM WILKINSON – Michael Clayton


SUPPORTING ACTRESS

CATE BLANCHETT – I’m Not There
KELLY MACDONALD – No Country for Old Men
SAMANTHA MORTON – Control
SAOIRSE RONAN – Atonement
TILDA SWINTON – Michael Clayton


MUSIC

AMERICAN GANGSTER – Marc Streitenfeld
ATONEMENT – Dario Marianelli
THE KITE RUNNER – Alberto Iglesias
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – Jonny Greenwood
LA VIE EN ROSE – Christopher Gunning


CINEMATOGRAPHY

AMERICAN GANGSTER – Harris Savides
ATONEMENT – Seamus McGarvey
THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM – Oliver Wood
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN – Roger Deakins
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – Robert Elswit


EDITING

AMERICAN GANGSTER – Pietro Scalia
ATONEMENT – Paul Tothill
THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM – Christopher Rouse
MICHAEL CLAYTON – John Gilroy
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN – Roderick Jaynes

PRODUCTION DESIGN

ATONEMENT – Sarah Greenwood/Katie Spencer
ELIZABETH: THE GOLDEN AGE – Guy Hendrix Dyas/Richard Roberts
HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX – Stuart Craig/Stephenie McMillan
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – Jack Fisk/Jim Erickson
LA VIE EN ROSE – Olivier Raoux/Stanislas Reydellet

COSTUME DESIGN

ATONEMENT – Jacqueline Durran
ELIZABETH: THE GOLDEN AGE – Alexandra Byrne
LUST, CAUTION – Pan Lai
SWEENEY TODD: THE DEMON BARBER OF FLEET STREET – Colleen Atwood
LA VIE EN ROSE – Marit Allen


SOUND

ATONEMENT – Danny Hambrook/Paul Hamblin/Catherine Hodgson/Becki Ponting
THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM – Kirk Francis/Scott Millan/Dave Parker/Karen Baker Landers/Per Hallberg
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN – Peter Kurland/Skip Lievsay/Craig Berkey/Greg Orloff
THERE WILL BE BLOOD – Christopher Scarabosio/Matthew Wood/John Pritchett/Michael Semanick/Tom Johnson
LA VIE EN ROSE – Laurent Zeilig/Pascal Villard/Jean-Paul Hurier/Marc Doisne

SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS

THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM – Peter Chiang/Charlie Noble/Mattias Lindahl/Joss Williams
THE GOLDEN COMPASS – Michael Fink/Bill Westenhofer/Ben Morris/Trevor Woods
HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX – Tim Burke/John Richardson/Emma Norton/Chris Shaw
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD’S END – John Knoll/Charles Gibson/Hal Hickel/John Frazier
SPIDER-MAN 3 – Scott Stokdyk/Peter Nofz/Kee-Suk Ken Hahn/John Frazier/Spencer Cook

MAKE UP & HAIR

ATONEMENT – Ivana Primorac
ELIZABETH: THE GOLDEN AGE – Jenny Shircore
HAIRSPRAY – Judi Cooper Sealy/Jordan Samuel
SWEENEY TODD: THE DEMON BARBER OF FLEET STREET – Ivana Primorac/Peter Owen
LA VIE EN ROSE – Jan Archibald/Didier Lavergne

SHORT ANIMATION

THE PEARCE SISTERS – Jo Allen/Luis Cook
HEAD OVER HEELS – Osbert Parker/Fiona Pitkin/Ian Gouldstone
THE CRUMBLEGIANT – Pearse Moore/John McCloskey

SHORT FILM

DOG ALTOGETHER – Diarmid Scrimshaw/Paddy Considine
HESITATION – Julien Berlan/Michelle Eastwood/Virginia Gilbert
THE ONE AND ONLY HERB MCGWYER PLAYS WALLIS ISLAND – Charlie Henderson/James Griffiths/Tim Key/Tom Basden
SOFT – Jane Hooks/Simon Ellis
THE STRONGER – Dan McCulloch/Lia Williams/Frank McGuinness

THE ORANGE RISING STAR AWARD
(voted for by the public) – nominees announced on Tuesday 8 January

SHIA LABEOUF
SIENNA MILLER
ELLEN PAGE
SAM RILEY
TANG WEI

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