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Old 01-22-08, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Simpson Purist
Well if there's any justice, the votes for the three songs from Enchanted will be split, giving the movie Once an Oscar.
"Falling Slowly" really is a wonderful song, and used so well within the film--I'd love to see it win.
Old 01-22-08, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by veloce
"Falling Slowly" really is a wonderful song, and used so well within the film--I'd love to see it win.

It better win!!!

Also, add me to the list of people pissed that "Zodiac" got nothing. But thrilled "The Bucket List" got zilch. I love the commercial where they have critic's reviews and one said "Give the Oscar to Nicholson and Freeman now!". Good one.
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The leading contenders, imo, are There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men. It should be an exciting show, if they have it, as both of these films are going head-to-head in alot of categories. Picture, Director, Screenplay, Editing, Cinematography, and I believe 1 of the Sound categories.
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Adding them up, for the most nominations:

"No Country For Old Men" 8
"There Will Be Blood" 8
"Atonement" 7
"Michael Clayton" 7
"Ratatouille" 5
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" 4
"Juno" 4
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I can't believe they gave that pretentious shitfest Juno so many noms. Ellen Page was irritating as usual, Diablo Cody's script was WAY too "look how punk/witty/snarky I can be" and the direction was hardly Oscar-worthy.

On the plus side, big thumbs up for Bardem getting a nom, same for Viggo. Both of them gave two of my favorite performances of 2007. I don't know how likely it is Viggo will win, but I think Bardem is a lock. It would have been nice to see a Cronenberg nom for directing, but I guess they can't all be great choices.
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Into the Wild got jipped. Really happy about TWBB & NCFOM, but Into The Wild deserved more recognition in my opinion.

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Old 01-22-08, 10:26 AM
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Pleasant surprise for me: Jason Reitman for Director for Juno

Unpleasant surprise: Norbit for Makeup! Ugh!

Other surprises:
Cate Blanchett for Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Laura Linney for Actress for The Savages
Casey Affleck for The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Longest title ever nominated?)
Ruby Dee for Supporting Actress for American Gangster
Surf's Up for Animated Feature
Sarah Polley for Adapted Screenplay for Away From Her

For those of you surprised by Juno's nominations, have you been hiding under a rock the last month or so? Ever since it opened, it's been tipped for the top Oscars.
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Originally Posted by veloce
"Falling Slowly" really is a wonderful song, and used so well within the film--I'd love to see it win.
I was shocked (happily so) to see that song was nominated as I thought it would be ineligible as "original song" having been previously released on the Swell Season album in 2006.

EDIT: Just checked the Academy Awards rules here, and I think I'm right. (Emphasis mine.)
II. Original Song

An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the film. There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the film or as the first music cue in the end credits.
That makes it ineligible by my reading.

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Old 01-22-08, 10:28 AM
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Love the noms this year.....I havent seen Sweeney Todd or Michael Clayon yet though.

I hope There Will Be Blood sweeps!

IMO, Atonement is overrated and should not win.
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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979

Other surprises:
Cate Blanchett for Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age
I'm thrilled she got nominated. And this is not really too big a surprise. She's been picking up steam lately on the critic's circles picks. So I knew she had a very good chance. And even though I love Amy Adams, if she had gotten nominated for "Enchanted" over Cate, I would have been pissed. Cute performance by Amy, but come on. Oscar worthy? No.
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Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
I can't believe they gave that pretentious shitfest Juno so many noms. Ellen Page was irritating as usual, Diablo Cody's script was WAY too "look how punk/witty/snarky I can be" and the direction was hardly Oscar-worthy.
I agree. The movie tried too hard. IMO, it is not in the ranks of other Oscar nominated "indies" such as Lost in Translation, Little Miss Sunshine and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
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^ Ditto on the Juno comments. It was ok, but not really Oscar worthy in my opinion.
Old 01-22-08, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by conscience
I agree. The movie tried too hard. IMO, it is not in the ranks of other Oscar nominated "indies" such as Lost in Translation, Little Miss Sunshine and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Nah, the movie's got a lot of heart. Counts for a lot among Oscar voters, I would guess. I recognize the movie's flaws, but I think the nomination is genuine. Once you look past the "punk/witty/snarky" stuff, you can see that it all works mostly as a commentary on Juno herself, and she grows past it by the end. I think there's more to this movie than meets the eye (and ear).
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
I'm thrilled she got nominated. And this is not really too big a surprise. She's been picking up steam lately on the critic's circles picks. So I knew she had a very good chance. And even though I love Amy Adams, if she had gotten nominated for "Enchanted" over Cate, I would have been pissed. Cute performance by Amy, but come on. Oscar worthy? No.
I was surprised because the movie was smacked down pretty hard by the critics and it didn't do good B.O. so I didn't think she could overcome those hurdles to land a nominations, hence my surprise.
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
Adding them up, for the most nominations:

"No Country For Old Men" 8
"There Will Be Blood" 8
"Atonement" 7
"Michael Clayton" 7
"Ratatouille" 5
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" 4
"Juno" 4
Bourne Ultimatum and Transformers both received 3. I think everything else is 2 or less.
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^ Ditto on the Juno comments. It was ok, but not really Oscar worthy in my opinion.
no it isn't
Old 01-22-08, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
^ Ditto on the Juno comments. It was ok, but not really Oscar worthy in my opinion.
Agreed... initially at least. I saw the movie again last week, and actually have come around, this movie deserves every bit of praise it has gotten . (In my mind, went from an overhyped but likeable/"cute" flick (first viewing) to a damn near great one (second viewing))

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Old 01-22-08, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FunkDaddy J
Nah, the movie's got a lot of heart. Counts for a lot among Oscar voters, I would guess. I recognize the movie's flaws, but I think the nomination is genuine. Once you look past the "punk/witty/snarky" stuff, you can see that it all works mostly as a commentary on Juno herself, and she grows past it by the end. I think there's more to this movie than meets the eye (and ear).
Heart? Growth? Not looking to make this a thread about the demerits of the film, but everything seems to "blah" to her throughout the entire film, from getting pregnant to non-chalantly picking out a needy couple to telling her parents, that at the end we're somehow supposed to feel for her and assume she's grown in some way even though there have been no signs of it?

No, I think this is a case of the Academy mindlessly getting behind a film that that average numbskull moviegoer has embraced, and the Academy knows that's the kind of shit they need to nominate to get people into watching their telecast. If this were a year with more phenomenal films Juno would be nowhere on any list.
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Even without the WGA strike, I think this year would have been a VERY low ratings year. With the WGA strike, its gonna be very very bad.
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Well, there has to be at least one film that grossed over $50 million at the box office to get a best picture nomination (and thanks to the recent noms, it's surely going to be the only $100 million best picture nominated film of the bunch), Juno just happened to be it
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Originally Posted by RichC2
The music in Enchanted was the worst part, stuff was cringe enducing.
Guess the Academy didn't have the guts to nominate DEWEY COX's "Let's Duet".
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Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
Heart? Growth? Not looking to make this a thread about the demerits of the film, but everything seems to "blah" to her throughout the entire film, from getting pregnant to non-chalantly picking out a needy couple to telling her parents, that at the end we're somehow supposed to feel for her and assume she's grown in some way even though there have been no signs of it?

No, I think this is a case of the Academy mindlessly getting behind a film that that average numbskull moviegoer has embraced, and the Academy knows that's the kind of shit they need to nominate to get people into watching their telecast. If this were a year with more phenomenal films Juno would be nowhere on any list.

No offense but you seem to have completely missed the point of the movie. I mean I can appreciate somebody not enjoying it, but the entire thing was that she was a punk/witty/snarky little bitch that believes shes way cooler and more mature than she actually is. As the movie progresses it shows she doesn't know shit and starts taking things more seriously. Hence how your examples are all in the first 20 minutes of the movie.

It isn't to everybodys life experience, but for the one it was trying to portray I thought it did a pretty damn good job. Plus the pacing was spot-on perfect.

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Guess the Academy didn't have the guts to nominate DEWEY COX's "Let's Duet".

Haha . The Academy loves their saccharin.

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Old 01-22-08, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
...average numbskull moviegoer...
That's me.

But I urge you to get past your knee-jerk hatred and give it another try some day.
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Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
I don't know how likely it is Viggo will win, but I think Bardem is a lock.
Beware the Hal Holbrook "Lifetime Achievement" Award.

Just warning you, so you don't get too nauseous on Oscar Night.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Beware the Hal Holbrook "Lifetime Achievement" Award.

Just warning you, so you don't get too nauseous on Oscar Night.
Holbrook WAS amazing. The part where
Spoiler:
He offers to adopt Chris and you see that tear roll down his eye as he's in the car
was heartbreaking, and proof that I won't mind if it goes either way.

Major excitement:

NCFOM is bound to grab Picture and Director (and Screenplay).

HOWEVER, I'm NOT happy about Into the Wild getting shut out, and TLJ not getting a NCFOM nomination. And Enchanted gets 60% of the Best Song share...WTF!? Into the Wild gets shut out by that! Now it makes me even more willing to have "Falling Slowly" win.

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