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Old 04-08-08, 03:32 PM
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http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=13&cs=1

okay, it's pretty clear this is a dud.
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IM getting pissed this keeps getting delayed. This Was gonna be the one Awesome looking Rated-R movie this summer...then it got delayed till October and now its getting pushed to February 09!
With the talent and story involved how can this not be great. I really hope they change their minds and open this up before the end of the year.
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Bleh. I thought it looked good. Would prefer if people just left the movie get released as it was originally shot.

I'm sure there's exceptions. But reshoots are bad news.

If the movie sucks - bring it out - let it suck the way it was meant to suck - whatever.
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I love how the R-rating is equivalent to a "seal of quality" on this forum.
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Wow, I thought the fall release was perfect for this film. Looks like it's having issues, which is too bad... I was hoping for a success from Singer and Cruise with this one.
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It's pretty obvious that they don't expect much from this film. A $90 million budget film starring Tom Cruise being released in February? It can't really be denied anymore that his persona has had a profoundly negative affect on his popularity. He's at a point where he must prove that he still has it and unfortunately Valkyrie is being setup for failure.
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The movie's been delayed to February 2009.

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The Nazi Plot That’s Haunting Tom Cruise and United Artists

By MICHAEL CIEPLY

LOS ANGELES — When United Artists said this month that it would again delay the release of “Valkyrie,” in which Tom Cruise plays a German officer who tries to kill Hitler, the Web went into obituary mode.

One Hollywood Internet site, thehotblog.com, flatly declared, “Valkyrie is dead.” Another, defamer.com, said that the revival of United Artists had effectively died with it.

Meanwhile, Roger Friedman, a widely read Web reporter with a column on foxnews.com, had some career advice for Mr. Cruise: “He needs another ‘Jerry Maguire’-like romantic comedy, and he needs it now.”

The death notices are remarkable in that United Artists, in its current version, was financed just eight months ago. And there is no way to be certain about “Valkyrie” until the film, first set for release in June, then October, and now Feb. 13, 2009, finally opens.

In the interim Mr. Cruise, his partners at United Artists and the “Valkyrie” filmmakers are bracing for what will likely be a nine-month fight to prove their critics wrong. “We will not be daunted,” Paula Wagner, chief executive of United Artists, said last week.

During a 90-minute interview at the company’s headquarters in a Century City office tower, Ms. Wagner said she and her fellow executives were intent on overcoming negative reactions that she saw as rooted in ignorance of the process of building movie production companies.

“Anybody trying to dismiss us or write us off doesn’t understand the business,” Ms. Wagner said. She added: “Nothing is going to stop us. We are determined to make this work.”

Still, United Artists’ future will depend on reversing a growing perception — fed by an Internet culture that publicizes notions once confined to lunchtime gossipfests — that the studio took a wrong turn shortly after Ms. Wagner joined Mr. Cruise, her longtime producing partner, in agreeing a year and a half ago to reboot it as their own venture with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, which had previously owned the company outright.

Mr. Cruise declined through a spokesman to be interviewed for this article. In a statement Harry E. Sloan, MGM’s chief executive, said he remained convinced of United Artists’ “promise and potential,” and looked forward to marketing and distributing its movies. The statement made no specific mention of “Valkyrie.”

In August the retooled United Artists received $500 million in backing through Merrill Lynch. It quickly released “Lions for Lambs,” a poorly received drama that was directed by Robert Redford and featured Mr. Cruise with Mr. Redford and Meryl Streep. As that film took a drubbing from critics and audiences alike, United Artists bet again on Mr. Cruise with “Valkyrie,” which is written by Christopher McQuarrie (with Nathan Alexander), and is being directed by Bryan Singer; both men worked on “X-Men” and “The Usual Suspects.”

Ms. Wagner declined to discuss the film’s cost, which has been reported at about $100 million. She also declined to discuss the possible loss from “Lions for Lambs,” which reported estimates have put as high as $50 million. The film is still playing abroad, where it has performed far better than in the United States.

But the company, she said, soon expects to move ahead with two or three films, including a lower-budget concept comedy that will feature actors other than Mr. Cruise. That will, perhaps, draw some of the limelight from a business partner who, at the moment, appears to be both an asset and a liability.

One of a half-dozen independent film companies that received significant financial backing between August 2006 and the following summer, United Artists has been deliberate in its approach, leaving plenty of time for outsiders to speculate.

By contrast, Overture Films, one of the other companies, expects to line up as many as 10 pictures by the end of this year. “If you’re going to be a distributor, you need volume in the marketplace,” Chris McGurk, Overture’s chief executive, said of its pace. To date, it has released “Mad Money,” “Sleepwalking” and “The Visitor,” none of which have been major hits.

Ms. Wagner noted that DreamWorks SKG, one of the longer-lived start-ups in recent memory, took nearly three years to release its first film after it was founded in 1994 by Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen. So did her own production company, Cruise/Wagner Productions, whose first film, “Mission: Impossible,” was released in 1996.

That Mr. Cruise became involved with “Valkyrie” was initially seen as an unexpected boost for United Artists: Mr. Singer recruited him only after Ms. Wagner had already signed onto the movie.

But a series of mishaps soon tainted the project. And that was particularly bad news for a company that will release nothing else before “Valkyrie” opens, and for a star whose main screen presence until then will be a much-talked-about cameo as a manic movie producer in the raunch comedy “Tropic Thunder.”

German authorities for a time refused permission to shoot “Valkyrie” in the Bendler Block in Berlin, where some of the story’s crucial moments occurred in real life. After a considerable commotion, permission was granted.

Then some of the film was damaged at the lab, requiring a brief reshoot that helped to feed the notion the movie was in trouble. That impression was further reinforced by the fact that some scenes remain to be filmed, though they were always meant to be finished after the rest of the production. Mr. Singer is expected to shoot a desert sequence in the next two months, possibly in the United States.

According to company executives, the latest date change was intended to move “Valkyrie” from an early fall schedule that has become increasingly crowded with Academy Award prospects — last year “In the Valley of Elah” and “Eastern Promises” were among the well-reviewed films that did poorly in the period — to a more audience-friendly date on the long Presidents’ Day weekend.

But the rescheduling spurred still more talk, some of it far-fetched. One report, on an Asian news wire, said that Mr. Cruise needed time with a dialect coach to refine his German accent. (Never mind that he speaks plain English throughout.)

Actually, Mr. Friedman, the Fox columnist, cited Mr. Cruise’s “hard California accent” among the points that persuaded him to tag “Valkyrie” as “one of the worst ideas for a film ever.”

Speaking by telephone last week, Mr. Friedman said much of the evidence he needed for that judgment was apparent in a trailer that has been available on the Web for weeks (imdb.com/title/tt0985699/trailers).

“There’s Tom with that big grin,” said Mr. Friedman, who also took exception to the star’s eye patch, which he wears as Col. Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg.

Occasionally such certitude can shatter a movie’s release. “Bram Stoker’s Dracula,” directed by Francis Ford Coppola, was derided in Hollywood as “Bonfire of the Vampires” before it opened, referring to the notorious bomb “Bonfire of the Vanities.” But “Dracula” did spectacular opening-weekend business and took in a solid $83 million at the box office in 1992.

Even “Titanic,” which ultimately took in $601 million at the domestic box office, was dogged by bad buzz while the audience flocked to it. “As ‘Titanic’ Hits No. 1, Perils Lurk in Its Future,” ran a 1997 headline in The New York Times.

Speaking by telephone on Friday, Mr. Singer said he had experienced something similar when making “X-Men.” Fans of the comic book, he recalled, obtained a picture of a stuntman in an awkwardly rigged Wolverine costume and concluded that Mr. Singer had bungled the film.

“Speculation is part of the excitement of the movie business,” Mr. Singer suggested. As for “Valkyrie,” he added: “People will be surprised. It isn’t going to be what people expect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/mo...=1&oref=google
Old 04-22-08, 11:23 PM
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What else are they going to say? I hope it's good, but by the sheer number of excuses and spin in that article I'd say they themselves are making the case for the film to be a disappointment.
Old 04-22-08, 11:33 PM
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I find it funny that people are labeling "Lions for Lambs" as a Tom Cruise movie, or think it failed because Cruise's star power is fading, yet no one was saying shit when he didn't open "Magnolia." Cruise wasn't the star of either. The delay isn't a good sign, but the more I think about it, the more evident it is that there's no proof that Cruise needs a "hit," since he hasn't tried to make a hit since MI3 (which was a hit worldwide).
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I think this will be another nail in the coffin of TC's movie career. From the get go this just seemed like a bizarre casting choice and a bad choice for him. Criuise looks ridiculous with that eye patch.
Old 04-22-08, 11:36 PM
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he didn't look silly in samurai gear?
Old 04-22-08, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brack
he didn't look silly in samurai gear?
That too.
Old 04-22-08, 11:45 PM
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it still was a hit.

I'm just saying it's way, way too early to say his career is over.
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it still was a hit.

I'm just saying it's way, way too early to say his career is over.
Touche. I would like to see him take on some supporting roles as I think his 'blockbuster' days are waning considerably.
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Originally Posted by Brack
I find it funny that people are labeling "Lions for Lambs" as a Tom Cruise movie, or think it failed because Cruise's star power is fading, yet no one was saying shit when he didn't open "Magnolia." Cruise wasn't the star of either. The delay isn't a good sign, but the more I think about it, the more evident it is that there's no proof that Cruise needs a "hit," since he hasn't tried to make a hit since MI3 (which was a hit worldwide).
Agreed. This one looks like it will be a failure due to the film itself. What little money it will bring in will be due, in no small part, to Cruise himself being on screen.

Is Cruise a weird mo-fo in real life? Shit yeah, but that doesn't stop people from seeing his moves. Cruise was acting like a loon when M:I III came out and it was a hit, and a mere 2 years ago!
Old 04-22-08, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I didn't know there were so many english and americans in the german army during WWII
Exactly what I was thinking. It looks good but, I'd like some German accents from at least one or two of the major players at least. Or even better yet, subtitles in English/Main language in German.
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"They will pull you apart like warm bread."

That has to be one of the most ridiculous lines in cinematic history.
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lame.

This brings to mind what a shame it is, that if the movie were spoken in German it'd probably sell less tickets, but please, is it really that hard to find a cast that could at least try to speak w/ German accents?

W/ so many great movies coming out this summer I really don't see major movie audiences giving a damn about this movie, though the post of the preview is still appreciated. At least now I've got something I can look forward to protesting.
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W/ so many great movies coming out this summer I really don't see major movie audiences giving a damn about this movie, though the post of the preview is still appreciated. At least now I've got something I can look forward to protesting.
As stated in many posts above, it's not coming out this summer.

And you actually waste your life protesting movies you haven't seen/don't like? I'm sad for you.
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And you actually waste your life protesting movies you haven't seen/don't like? I'm sad for you.
By "protesting" he means "needlessly whining on the internet."
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Originally Posted by William Fuld
By "protesting" he means "needlessly whining on the internet."
Then it would appear you're both wasting life and time to entertain the whiner.

Have you no premonition? I've heard the word 'blindly' used quite often on this forum and the responses to which scare me. Believe me, I'd rather not spend 9 dollars, or even 20-40 dollars in such fashion had I not already derived an opinion to lead me to complain or protest. I'm not about to spend money on a test drive. Doesn't matter what summer it is.

-and for the record, that's the reason as to why I'm here: to get reviews so I don't have to go out and spend money blindly.

Sorry guys, but you're also avoiding the reason to why I'm complaining.

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Remember in Entourage when Vincent Chase thought "Medillian" would be his big epic biopic? This is going to turn out like that with Tom Cruise.
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^^ I'm looking forward to Cruise's upcoming work with Scorsese.
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This looks good to me.
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I'm just excited that my favourite actor from 'The History Boys' Jamie Parker (Scripps) is in this movie.

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