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Old 10-10-07, 07:16 PM
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Die Hard 4 editor brought in to soften Hitman's violence



http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/fox-...r-xavier-gens/

While there has been no official word on this so far I知 hearing it from enough sources very close to the film itself and the principals involved that I知 quite confident reporting it as fact. Word is out that Fox has yanked control of upcoming video game adaptation away from director Xavier Gens. This happens from time to time if a director turns in weak footage but that is not the case here. After being hired to shoot an adaptation of the ultra-violent video game Gens took Asian action films such as The Killer and A Bittersweet Life as his starting point and turned in an explicitly violent, very bloody cut of the film that apparently included a number of head shots and extreme gore moments that would have guaranteed the film a hard R rating. Which really shouldn稚 have been any sort of surprise if the studio execs had been paying any attention at all - it痴 not like they wouldn稚 have seen the dailies or effects work ahead of time - but apparently after seeing Gens cut of the film the studio removed him from the project and placed Nicolas De Toth in control of a new edit of the film. Who痴 De Toth? He痴 the man behind the edit of Live Free Or Die Hard, a job he was hired for specifically to turn in an entirely bloodless version of the film and word is that this is his task with Hit Man as well. So what are we going to get? A bloodless version of the film assembled with no input whatsoever from Gens. Very sad considering just how promising the trailers have been so far.

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Who the fuck makes a movie about a professional hitman and then wants to soften the violence? The execs at Fox are idiots.
Old 10-10-07, 07:26 PM
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Idiots.
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The people who run Fox are the biggest bunch of pussies ever to have run a studio.
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UNRATED TRIPLE DIP DVD!!!!!!!


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Sadly, that's probably the real reason for it. People will go see it, be let down that it wasn't bloody at all, and then a year later there's an Unrated DVD that everyone who saw it the first time will want to check out, as well as those of us who lost interest once they heard about the edit. It seems like half the major studio releases are produced with the DVD in mind from the start, rather than focusing on making each product stand on its own...
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Their home video division has done a piss poor job with their Blu-ray launch. Their prime time lineup is a disaster. And now their film execs are destroying both existing and potential franchises and butchering movies clearly intended for an R-rating in order to squeeze a few more dollars out of the teen audience.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Fox. Good thing their cable news channel is beating CNN, cuz that's all they've got going for them right now.
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I swear, this country has gone pussy.
Old 10-11-07, 05:11 AM
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Ironically Timothy Olyphant was in both films that Fox toned down.
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Originally Posted by Poink
Sadly, that's probably the real reason for it. People will go see it, be let down that it wasn't bloody at all, and then a year later there's an Unrated DVD that everyone who saw it the first time will want to check out, as well as those of us who lost interest once they heard about the edit. It seems like half the major studio releases are produced with the DVD in mind from the start, rather than focusing on making each product stand on its own...
Yeah, but this seems like an instance where they were going to make an R-rated film in the first place, then later decided to have it "detothed" to a PG-13 before releasing it to theaters.
Old 10-11-07, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
The people who run Fox are the biggest bunch of pussies ever to have run a studio.
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
The execs at Fox are idiots.
These are the same folks who also are "coming back in a big way" in BD by releasing barebones discs at $40 a piece.
Old 10-11-07, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
These are the same folks who also are "coming back in a big way" in BD by releasing barebones discs at $40 a piece.
what Fox will do is release the 'unrated' on standard DVD, the R-rated theatrical cut on BluRay like they're doing with 'Live Free or Die Hard' (BR: PG-13/standard dvd: unrated 'R') and call it day - what total douches.
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So...are they still going to have the balls to release AVP:2 as an R-rated flick? Someone needs to go into Fox and bitchslap these morons. If this 'De Toth' version is the one that hits theatres, I'm skipping 'Hitman'...hopefully they wake up and smell the violence before then.
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
Who the fuck makes a movie about a professional hitman and then wants to soften the violence? The execs at Fox are idiots.


Idiots indeed.
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wait a second. This is going to be an R flick, right? I am pretty sure it has been marketed this way the entire time.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
wait a second. This is going to be an R flick, right? I am pretty sure it has been marketed this way the entire time.
I would assume this signals a move to PG-13, since an R is an R.
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Maybe Fox just has a problem with Timothy Olyphant.
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Originally Posted by Draven
I would assume this signals a move to PG-13, since an R is an R.
unless Fox has seen some of the R-rated violence and thinks it might have probs with the MPAA.
Old 10-11-07, 12:28 PM
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The trailers for this film didn't do much for me, but knowing this guarantees I won't see it in theaters. Excessive blood may have been the only thing to get me to see it.
Old 10-11-07, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Maybe Fox just has a problem with Timothy Olyphant.
Well they did allow The Girl Next Door to get released with an R rating, so they don't completely hate the guy.
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Well they did allow The Girl Next Door to get released with an R rating, so they don't completely hate the guy.
They did, however, change the release date at the last minute. When the film finally came out, it was out of theaters within two weeks.
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It's a new director, and more than just editing will be done but re-shoots as well. I can't believe this is the same company that greenlighted Fight Club.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
It's a new director, and more than just editing will be done but re-shoots as well. I can't believe this is the same company that greenlighted Fight Club.
ehh. That doesn't bode well for a quality film. I'm guessing this'll be just another crap video game flick.
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I read on another board that they were doing re-shoots maybe not if it's coming next month.

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