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Juno -- d: Jason Reitman -- s: Ellen Page

Old 12-17-07, 01:55 PM
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Love Ellen Page, Michael Cera, Janney and Garner in this flick. I think the cast really made the movie work, because I loved it in spite of the script. I thought the dialogue was trying WAY TOO HARD to be hip, edgy and smart. Some of that started to bug the shit out of me, but everyone saying the lines is so damn good, I could get over it and still enjoy the flick. In the end I loved the movie despite being slightly annoyed every now and then. Well worth seeing and mostly lives up to the hype. Cast, music and Jason Reitman Diablo Cody
I agree I thought the script was a bit hamfisted. I for one didn't like the twee music that seems to be a prevailent musical motif in recent American indie pics. It also didn't help that the Landmark Bethesda (screen 4) cropped the 1.85 imagery to 2.35 - I complained, but they did nothing to correctly frame the film.
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Old 12-17-07, 02:17 PM
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Is Jason Bateman nothing short of ingenious here?
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Old 12-17-07, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
Is Jason Bateman nothing short of ingenious here?
he's great - the whole exchange between him and Juno over horror films (H.G. Lewis vs. Argento) was classic.
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Old 12-17-07, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mdc3000
I thought the dialogue was trying WAY TOO HARD to be hip, edgy and smart.
This was my feeling for the first 10-15 minutes, but then, either I got used to the sound of the dialogue, or Cody dropped it.

In either case, I loved the movie. It wasn't a surprise that Ellen Page was a good actress, but she takes this movie on her tiny shoulders and lifts it as high as humanly possible. Through in a great performance by everyone else involved and its a gem of a flick that should be checked out.
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Old 12-18-07, 06:38 PM
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i tried to go see this movie twice over the wkend and it was sold out on fri and sat. i am gonna try again this wkend! it looks like its gonna be soo good.
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Old 12-18-07, 07:05 PM
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The acting was universally very good, I thought the script rang relatively true (the dialog, as overwrought as it may seem, isn't horribly far off base), and the direction was great.

Not the most hilarious movie of the year by far, but entertaining and an overall good movie.
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Old 12-19-07, 11:20 AM
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I had a chance to see Juno last night and really enjoyed it.

For one reason and/or another I could not read what was on Juno's note and was wondering if anyone remembers what it said and could share it.
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Old 12-19-07, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by retihsuhnt
For one reason and/or another I could not read what was on Juno's note and was wondering if anyone remembers what it said and could share it.
Spoiler:
Vanessa,

If you're still in, I'm still in.

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Old 12-19-07, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
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Vanessa,

If you're still in, I'm still in.
You should spoiler what was written on the note as it is one of the last reveals of the film.
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Old 12-19-07, 05:36 PM
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Definitely a winner here, exactly what you want from a small indie film: smart script that is well-acted in the hands of a solid director.
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Old 12-19-07, 06:22 PM
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I thought it was a good movie with a lot of problems. As others stated, it was very overwritten and the dialogue tried unbelievably hard to be "cool." It came across to me like a movie written by hipsters for hipsters. So much of the film was Juno simply slinging off one witty line after another. What zing is she gonna say next?!

I also don't think the film did a great job of forming any emotional attachments to the characters. The scenes between Ellen and Michael were the most heartfelt, but there were hardly any of them. Why did she love him? Why couldn't we see more of that evidence? And with Jennifer Garner...so she really liked kids...great. Do something with her character. She simply drifted in and out of the movie. It also felt like something more could have been made with the step-mother. So much of "Juno" was giving us the barest minimalist look at these various characters without really plunging into any real relationships between any of them. It was the scarcest glance at these individuals whom the movie wished to suggest were actually complex beings.

There's definitely a better movie in there, and it felt like a lot may have been cut. I'm guessing in the hands of a more mature filmmaking team we could have achieved something greater. It's still a very worthwhile picture, but I kind of long for what could have been.
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Old 12-21-07, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BJacks
I thought it was a good movie with a lot of problems. As others stated, it was very overwritten and the dialogue tried unbelievably hard to be "cool." It came across to me like a movie written by hipsters for hipsters. So much of the film was Juno simply slinging off one witty line after another. What zing is she gonna say next?!

I also don't think the film did a great job of forming any emotional attachments to the characters. The scenes between Ellen and Michael were the most heartfelt, but there were hardly any of them. Why did she love him? Why couldn't we see more of that evidence? And with Jennifer Garner...so she really liked kids...great. Do something with her character. She simply drifted in and out of the movie. It also felt like something more could have been made with the step-mother. So much of "Juno" was giving us the barest minimalist look at these various characters without really plunging into any real relationships between any of them. It was the scarcest glance at these individuals whom the movie wished to suggest were actually complex beings.

There's definitely a better movie in there, and it felt like a lot may have been cut. I'm guessing in the hands of a more mature filmmaking team we could have achieved something greater. It's still a very worthwhile picture, but I kind of long for what could have been.
Just saw this, and these are my thoughts almost exactly. Given the glowing reviews, I was let down by this one.
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Old 12-22-07, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BJacks
I thought it was a good movie with a lot of problems. As others stated, it was very overwritten and the dialogue tried unbelievably hard to be "cool." It came across to me like a movie written by hipsters for hipsters. So much of the film was Juno simply slinging off one witty line after another. What zing is she gonna say next?!

I also don't think the film did a great job of forming any emotional attachments to the characters. The scenes between Ellen and Michael were the most heartfelt, but there were hardly any of them. Why did she love him? Why couldn't we see more of that evidence? And with Jennifer Garner...so she really liked kids...great. Do something with her character. She simply drifted in and out of the movie. It also felt like something more could have been made with the step-mother. So much of "Juno" was giving us the barest minimalist look at these various characters without really plunging into any real relationships between any of them. It was the scarcest glance at these individuals whom the movie wished to suggest were actually complex beings.

There's definitely a better movie in there, and it felt like a lot may have been cut. I'm guessing in the hands of a more mature filmmaking team we could have achieved something greater. It's still a very worthwhile picture, but I kind of long for what could have been.
I pretty much agree with you. I would add in the use of another indie or hipster favorite song every two minutes or so, including over scenes that would have worked a lot better with silence or something orchestral.

I would go so far as to say that the only characters who were developed in any way were Juno, Bleeker, and Mark. And I think in the case of Bleeker and Mark, a lot of that came from the actors, not necessarily the script. Still, it wasn't bad, it just, as BJ said, could have been so much more, and the potential was right there on the screen.
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Old 12-22-07, 07:04 AM
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It would have been funny to have Bleeker and Mark in one scene together, just to have Mark give a raised eyebrow look of bemusement to Bleeker for knocking up Juno.

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Old 12-23-07, 06:10 PM
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I think I wanted to like this film a little more than I ended up liking it, but Ellen Page is terrific as Juno, the 16-year-old teen who gets pregnant and looks at options of what to do with this unexpected development. I think the screenplay doesn't develop Bleeker too well, he's basically the sperm donor on record and guy friend of Juno, but Juno does quite a bit of growing up during her pregnancy, but in unexpected ways. The conclusion wasn't bad, I just wanted a little more bite to the story. But all in all, Ellen Page's performance anchors the film well (though the screenplay could have been a little tighter in developing Juno, instead of relying on Juno's caustic-ness and sarcastic approach to life at this point in her life, but she's ultimately rootable and likable).

I give it 3 stars, or a grade of B.
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Old 12-24-07, 06:29 AM
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Anyone else a Hard Candy fan? One of my top 5 favorite movies ever. I havent seen Juno yet, but I'll probably go on Christmas. I cant wait. I love Ellen Page.
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Anyone else a Hard Candy fan? One of my top 5 favorite movies ever. I havent seen Juno yet, but I'll probably go on Christmas. I cant wait. I love Ellen Page.

I caught "Hard Candy" on DVD about a year ago. And it was the first time I ever saw Ellen Page. I just kept thinking while watching that intense film "this little girl is going to be a huge huge star". About "Juno"....first NO ONE talks that way in the real world. And it became a bit exhausting. But you can't deny it wasn't funny. I can't imagine knowing someone like that in real life. I could only take them in small increments. But the cast is great. I just wish the screenwriter didn't go to over board trying to be funny/hip/cool. It showed.
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Old 12-24-07, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Giles
he's great - the whole exchange between him and Juno over horror films (H.G. Lewis vs. Argento) was classic.
EVERY scene with him and Juno were great. They were favorite moments in the film!
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Old 12-25-07, 09:33 AM
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Going to see this on Christmas day after some fine Indian cuisine.
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Old 12-25-07, 09:42 AM
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I caught "Hard Candy" on DVD about a year ago. And it was the first time I ever saw Ellen Page. I just kept thinking while watching that intense film "this little girl is going to be a huge huge star". About "Juno"....first NO ONE talks that way in the real world. And it became a bit exhausting. But you can't deny it wasn't funny. I can't imagine knowing someone like that in real life. I could only take them in small increments. But the cast is great. I just wish the screenwriter didn't go to over board trying to be funny/hip/cool. It showed.
More people talk like that than you give credit to, and yes, it's just as annoying in real life.
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Old 12-25-07, 11:57 AM
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More people talk like that than you give credit to, and yes, it's just as annoying in real life.
True, just bop around some video blogs around the 'net.
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True, just bop around some video blogs around the 'net.
No thanks

Was thinking....the "hip" dialogue is no different than any of the John Hughes high school themed movies.
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Holy freaking loved it!
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Old 12-25-07, 11:16 PM
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Like I was reading somewhere, there is so much hype for this movie that if you read about it, you'll get dissapointed.
If you haven't heard about the movie you'd enjoyed the movie more. I agree with all the complain about the dialogue, trying to be hip, the songs (I was tired about the songs 5 minutes into the movie), etc.
But this is a movie you just have to love to enjoy. It has a lot of things to like about, everyone can choose a different thing, I specially enjoyed Page's acting.
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Old 12-26-07, 01:15 AM
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I pretty much agree with you. I would add in the use of another indie or hipster favorite song every two minutes or so, including over scenes that would have worked a lot better with silence or something orchestral.
Agreed, it all pretty much fell into the "for hipsters, by hipsters" pot. The opening credits were beautifully executed but the film's reliance on indie rock got tiring. I just couldn't shake the sense that I was getting beaten over the head with a "buy our soundtrack" message.
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