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Jay G. 01-11-07 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Cameron
If I were Jackson I'd stay clear of the hobbit anyways...No doubt he could do a good job, but thats a step backwards in my book. Fanboys will build it up in their minds and ultimately be disappointed. (Phantom Menace syndrome)

Except with The Hobbit, the story already exists, so the film only has to live up to the book, not to a decade or more of fan speculation of what a prequel would be like. Plus, the Star Wars prequels had every opportunity to be epic, due to the Clone Wars and the Rise of the Empire and Vader, it's Lucas who fucked it up in execution. Finally, there's a difference between a film not being as good as one hopes and a film just being frankly god-awful like The Phantom Menace.

Jay G. 01-11-07 11:03 AM

Peter Jackson via Wignut Films has responded to Bob Shaye's comments on AICN:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31211

One notable quote:
"Contrary to recent comments made by Bob Shaye, we attempted to discuss the issues raised by the Fellowship audit with New Line for over a year but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative. This has compelled us to file a lawsuit to pursue our contractual rights under the law. Nobody likes taking legal action, but the studio left us with no alternative."

rennervision 01-11-07 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by gerrythedon
It seems this has turned into quite the shitty situation as Shaye even says that many of the Rings actors have declined to participate in celebrating New Line's 40th anniversary.

Wait - New Line has been around for 40 years???

Jay G. 01-11-07 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by rennervision
Wait - New Line has been around for 40 years???

Since 1967, according to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Line_Cinema

They only produced 9 films in the 17 years before Nightmare on Elm Street. However, as a distributor they were much more prolific, releasing 124 films in the same time period. These were mostly foreign and independent films. New Line released Evil Dead theatrically, re-released Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Night of the Living Dead, and handled a number of John Waters's earlier works:
http://www.imdb.com/company/co0046718/

Nefarious 01-11-07 06:32 PM

I'm w/ Pete. If there's nothing to hide then do the damn audit.

It's obvious they feel he's been compensated "enough" already. The reality is that it performed better than either side could have hoped. But if the contract called for him getting x% then he should get it even if it turns out to be assloads more than NewLine ever imagined.

Cameron 01-11-07 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jay G.
Except with The Hobbit, the story already exists, so the film only has to live up to the book, not to a decade or more of fan speculation of what a prequel would be like. Plus, the Star Wars prequels had every opportunity to be epic, due to the Clone Wars and the Rise of the Empire and Vader, it's Lucas who fucked it up in execution. Finally, there's a difference between a film not being as good as one hopes and a film just being frankly god-awful like The Phantom Menace.

agreed to a point, but I think most fans would want it to flow right into the three existing films, not so much the book...i don't think that would happen, as Jackson doesn't have the tunnel vision that came with doing all three films back to back...he is removed from it to a point, and planning other films. I'd like to see him get back to some original work as opposed to hundred year old books and remakes of classics (though I did love Kong).

also for the record...I loved The Phantom Menace.

Jay G. 01-11-07 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron
agreed to a point, but I think most fans would want it to flow right into the three existing films, not so much the book...

Well, I can't speak for all other fans, but having personally read the books and being a fan of the LOTR films, I'd be perfectly fine with a fairly straightforward adaptation of the book that doesn't "flow" right into LOTR films. After the Hobbit is made, people can view the story in its proper order and see what the Hobbit really is: a good story that spawned a highly ambitious sequel, and not the other way around.


i don't think that would happen, as Jackson doesn't have the tunnel vision that came with doing all three films back to back...he is removed from it to a point, and planning other films.
I'm sorry, I really don't understand what you're getting at here at all.


I'd like to see him get back to some original work as opposed to hundred year old books and remakes of classics (though I did love Kong).
The Hobbit is 70 years old, while LOTR was about 50 years old when the movies were made. I'm not even sure why the age of the book would matter as long as it's a good story; it's not like people have given up on adapting Dickens or Shakespeare or even Homer. His next movie's a book adaptation as well, but I'm not thinking it's going to be a lesser work because it's not "original."



also for the record...I loved The Phantom Menace.
If you loved Phantom Menace, why would you think it a bad idea to make The Hobbit? Do you have something against movies you would like being made?

bunkaroo 01-12-07 12:49 AM

LOTR is to me now what SW was to me in my childhood.

Fuck this guy Shaye. I can say without hyperbole that if someone else makes this film other than Jackson, I will never, ever see it, or spend a dime on merchandise related to it. NL needs to get their shit together.

redrum 01-12-07 01:09 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/2007...a_17681258dea9

GreenMonkey 01-12-07 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by The Reaper
I like P.J. and all but I'm with New Line on this one.

Why? If you think your employer shorted you money on your paycheck, wouldn't you be willing to sue them to get it?

basaro 01-12-07 08:01 AM

Shaye is the one being greedy, I have no doubt they still owe Jackson lots of
$. What an ass.

Lara Means 04-24-07 02:25 AM

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/spider31.php

Taken from a recent interview with director SAM RAIMI!


Question: New Line has also rumored to approach you to do The Hobbit. Have they approached you to do The Hobbit? Was are the rumors, fact, fiction?

Raimi: Well, the truth is I just don't know what I'm going to do next, that's the most honest answer I can give you. And I can't honestly say, even though I have spoken to Bob Shay, that--I don't know that I could honestly say that anything's been offered to me until some time in the future, because, it just wouldn't be exactly right. Or true.

Question: When you say you've had conversations with Bob Shay, what kind of conversations have you had about The Hobbit?

Raimi: Well, I spoke to him once, so it's a little more overblown I think. That's why I don't want to pretend that it's bigger than it is. I had one conversation about the possibility of it, and that's really where it's at.

Question: I have a question though: in the back of your mind you have to be thinking, The Hobbit--Peter Jackson did such a great job with the trilogy. Is there any fear in your mind about wow, the fans are so attached to Peter Jackson's vision, how would they take me coming on to the project, and if you did go to the project, is there any thought about taking some of the actors or bringing--

Raimi: I haven't had any of those thoughts yet, because I think it's still Peter Jackson's project. It would be so premature--I'm so overwhelmed with my own insecurities, I can't take his on just yet.

Question: Still?

Raimi: Yeah. I have to burn through all my fears first. And then I'd have to know that he wasn't making the movie, and then it would have to officially be offered to me, and then all those, I will be the first one to take on all those fears if all of those things were to come to pass.

Question: So you wouldn't take it on unless Peter Jackson said it was okay?

Raimi: I'd have to know that he was okay with it. It's really his picture and Bob Shay's picture.

Shannon Nutt 04-24-07 11:34 AM

Bruce Campbell as Gandolf! :)

GoldenJCJ 04-24-07 11:48 PM

Sweet Jesus, I hope not. Raimi couldn't direct his way out of a paper bag...

rexinnih 04-25-07 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Bruce Campbell as Gandolf! :)

:thumbsup:

gerrythedon 08-11-07 08:42 PM

The Hobbit
 
Peter Jackson to Return for The Hobbit?

New Line Cinema has given "The Lord of the Rings" fans, who want to see director Peter Jackson return for The Hobbit, some hope. Speaking to the Los Angeles Times, studio founder Bob Shaye commented on the matter:

Eager to move ahead with "The Hobbit," New Line has quietly been trying to mend fences with "Rings" filmmaker Peter Jackson, who has sued the company over his share of profits from the first "Rings" films. When asked if it was true that company insiders had been in talks with Jackson's reps, Shaye replied, "Yes, that's a fair statement. Notwithstanding our personal quarrels, I really respect and admire Peter and would love for him to be creatively involved in some way in 'The Hobbit.'"

According to Stuff.co.nz, Ian McKellen also said there was no doubt that a rumored reprisal of his Gandalf role in a film version of The Hobbit would be discussed with Jackson and [Fran] Walsh.

The site contacted Jackson's spokesman, who added: "Peter and Fran have always wanted to 'The Hobbit' but whether that happens is yet to be decided."


COMINGSOON.NET

PopcornTreeCt 08-11-07 09:02 PM

I'd love to see Peter Jackson back it would serve as a nice companion piece to Lord of the Rings.

GeorgeP 08-11-07 09:16 PM

My biggest question: Who plays Bilbo?

Ian Holm is too old to carry the part for the entire movie--yet he's already acted out one scene from The Hobbit on film already. Will the difference in a new cast member be noticeable?

joeydaninja 08-11-07 09:48 PM

George Lucas will fix it. :D

Groucho 08-11-07 10:06 PM

Should be a question mark in the subject header. Better yet, this should have been posted in the existing Hobbit thread.

nemein 08-11-07 10:26 PM

I thought there was a rights dispute w/ the family as well... Was that worked out?

Josh-da-man 08-12-07 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by GeorgeP
My biggest question: Who plays Bilbo?

Ian Holm is too old to carry the part for the entire movie--yet he's already acted out one scene from The Hobbit on film already. Will the difference in a new cast member be noticeable?

If they want someone younger than Ian Holm, Geoffrey Rush would probably be a good choice.

Joe Molotov 08-12-07 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Groucho
Should be a question mark in the subject header. Better yet, this should have been posted in the existing Hobbit thread.

Yeah, I'm going to need something I a little more concrete before I make my "I can't wait!" post. :|

Premise 08-12-07 02:36 AM

I can't wait! Are there any details on the dvd, Blu-Ray, Or the Hd-Dvd?When's the release date? Will there be DTS? Yahhhhhhhhhh.http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1...mcustomlm6.jpg -wink-

hardercore 08-12-07 02:46 AM

I younger actor playing Bilbo I can take, but please don't re-cast Gandalf.


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