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28 Days/Weeks are ZOMBIE movies!

Old 06-10-07, 10:57 PM
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28 Days/Weeks are ZOMBIE movies!

If it smells like a duck and quacks like a rose…

Let’s see. These things eat people. Absolutely cannot be stopped and are people you know!

Romero films: Human Victims VS Comet or unknown; Suffer no systemic damage bar brain.
Return of the Living Dead: Human Victims VS Gas; Every cell alive always like The Thing..
WWZ: Human Victims VS Virus; brain kills work for us.
Night of the Comet: it was a comet.
28 Weeks and/or Days ...Later:-Duck and/or zombie like behavior. Suffer systemic damage and prone to starvation.

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What the hell?
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There, maybe that will calm Kudama down.
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I hear Outbreak was a zombie movie based on such simple break down.
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They ARE zombies!!!
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Originally Posted by Brent L


There, maybe that will calm Kudama down.
I can't stop laughing at that.
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I consider them zombies.
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So is Undead and 2007's The Signal- blows 28 Days Later right out of the water.

Do you have the Crazy?
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Originally Posted by Brent L


There, maybe that will calm Kudama down.
I saw this rat/squirrel on Rt a coupla days back. After 28 Weeks Later (the best, most stress filled, Zombie Movie ever.) The humor is so appreciated.

First zombie movie that made me cry. Dead sober, too.

I really need to go back to sleep, but that rat squirrel is cracking me up.

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Originally Posted by iexx
Do you have the Crazy?
Workin' on that. The rat squirrel abides.

(I bribed my congress-person for one more vote...ZOMBIES!)
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I'll reluctantly tweak my original belief a bit that they're not traditional zombies and give you that they may be a type of Zombie. They're definitely NOT the "Romero Living Dead " type because as the OP pointed out, they die from starvation and Dehydration after a period of time. Also, they don't die in the process of being infected. Another thing is in the 2 movies show they show that they don't eat their victims. Perhaps if they did they'd last longer.....
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Another vote for 'a type of zombie' here. Cos they clearly are.

Some of the most effective zombies ive seen as well, its all that twitching :-/
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
I hear Outbreak was a zombie movie based on such simple break down.
So, are you saying that to be classified a "zombie" the monster must manifest supernatural (that's another can o' worms) causality?
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I'll reluctantly tweak my original belief a bit that they're not traditional zombies and give you that they may be a type of Zombie. They're definitely NOT the "Romero Living Dead " type because as the OP pointed out, they die from starvation and Dehydration after a period of time. Also, they don't die in the process of being infected. Another thing is in the 2 movies show they show that they don't eat their victims. Perhaps if they did they'd last longer.....
Exactly. They are the other point on the bell curve (opposed to the ones from Return of the Living Dead).
Although, after this new movie, there is a curve ball
Spoiler:
Can they be cured?
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This is in the wrong forum. Please move to the "Obvious" or "Really??" forum.
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Don't say that zed word, it's ridiculous!
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Originally Posted by Kudama
Exactly. They are the other point on the bell curve (opposed to the ones from Return of the Living Dead).
Although, after this new movie, there is a curve ball
Spoiler:
Can they be cured?
Exactly. IMHO you can classify the 28 movies as "zombie" films situationally, but the antagonists aren't explicitly zombies simply because they aren't reanimated corpses. The movies Rabid, Shivers, Warning Sign, Night of the Comet, and The Crazies also fall into this gray area.
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Originally Posted by Kudama
Exactly. They are the other point on the bell curve (opposed to the ones from Return of the Living Dead).
Although, after this new movie, there is a curve ball
Spoiler:
Can they be cured?

Like I said, I'm only "tweaking" my initial idea. I still wouldn't use the word when talking about them and I wouldn't call the 2 movies "zombie films".
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Well, I tried to find a good reference definition for the sake of Kudama's sanity. First attempt was mildly rewarding, but not terribly:

Originally Posted by thefreedictionary.com
1. A snake god of voodoo cults in West Africa, Haiti, and the southern United States.
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a. A supernatural power or spell that according to voodoo belief can enter into and reanimate a corpse.
b. A corpse revived in this way.
3. One who looks or behaves like an automaton.
4. A tall mixed drink made of various rums, liqueur, and fruit juice.
It's pretty hard to read about any kind of ancient Voudoun mythology without stumbling over something about zombies. Basically, if all zombie / undead movies were judged on that, then there'd be no "zombie" movies. just a bunch of random infecteds. So, after a quick shot over to Wiki for something a little more concrete:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
A zombie is an animated human body devoid of a soul. In contemporary versions these are generally reanimated or undead corpses, which were traditionally called "ghouls." Stories of zombies originated in the Afro-Caribbean spiritual belief system of Vodoun (Voodoo).

Other more macabre versions of zombies have become a staple of modern horror fiction, where they are brought back from the dead by supernatural or scientific means, and eat the flesh of the living. They have very limited intelligence, and may not be under anyone's direct control. This type of zombie, often referred to as a Romero zombie for the filmmaker that defined the concept, is archetypal in modern media and culture.
The bolded material is pretty much how I see "zombies" (though I really liked 28 Days Later, I'm not much of a zombie-schlock fan). The infecteds in 28 Days / Weeks Later were running on pure motor reflexes and instinctual thirst for flesh - so I guess that makes them devoid of a human soul.

EDIT: Tinkered with the "infectids" spelling, as I assumed that was akin to the species name in the film.

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I always considered zombies=re-animated corpses. The infected never die, and thus aren't re-animated corpses IMO.

But really, I couldn't give a shit less what they are. 28 Days Later is an excellent horror flick, and Weeks is decent regardless of what you want to call the infected.
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I look forward to revisiting this discussion when Cell is released.
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NOT zombies. They aren't dead when they become infected, zombies are resurrected dead. End of story. They don't necessarily want to eat people, they just tear them apart and probably eat them simply to sustain the energy needed to run that goddamn fast.
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Whether or not they are zombies, they fulfill the same purpose.
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Sexual pleasure?
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