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devilshalo 05-03-07 01:03 AM

'Spider-Man 3' snares web of first-day records
By Hy Hollinger
May 3, 2007

"So far, so good," a jubilant Sony Pictures Entertainment vice chairman Jeff Blake said Wednesday as he reported a slew of records set by "Spider-Man 3." The latest entry in the comic-book franchise snared $29.2 million in a May 1 blast-off in 16 overseas markets, topping "Spider-Man 2's" bow in the same territories by 86% and that of the original by 175%.

"The bottom line," Blake said, "is that 10 of the 16 openings had the biggest opening day of all time."

Spidey's boxoffice power became evident Tuesday afternoon as early record returns came in from eight day-ahead Asian countries. By Tuesday night, the champagne corks really started to pop when Sony's stats specialists finished first-day calculations from all 16 markets.

Their findings revealed that all 16 bows of the third film adaptation of the comic-book superhero beat the openings days of both "Spider-Man 2" ($15.6 million) and the initial "Spider-Man" ($10.6 million), bested the combined gross of both previous films, and that four territories came up with their biggest single days of all time.

Sony said France's $6.1 million represented the country's biggest opening day of all time, beating "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" ($3.9 million), local blockbuster "Taxi 2" ($4.5 million) and the combined opening day takes of Spidey 1 and 2 ($4.9 million).

Flynn 05-03-07 02:09 AM

Just watched it tonight. It was a C+ at best, and I'm a huge fan of the franchise - and of the comic books. Too many characters, ridiculous out-of-place scenes, a Sandman that more closely resembles the monster at the end of the Hulk (Lord help us) and some seriously lame dialogue. I was really hoping for better.

LivingINClip 05-03-07 02:21 AM


From some reviews it doesn't seem that bad. Of course if you think about it, Batman Begins had 3 major antagonists. Falcone early on, Scarecrow, and Ra's.
Not quite the same, but I understand what you are aiming for. The big difference is, Falcone could be described as , at best a side villain. Scarecrow was minor also, with the big threat being Ra's. This on the other hand, you have the Harry angle, Venom (a fan favorite - that can't be delegated down to a minor) and then you have Sandman - which with the Uncle Ben angle, becomes more than a minor villain.

The Antipodean 05-03-07 04:16 AM

I love it, and think the three movies work really well together as one piece. Is it perfect? Not quite - the ending act is a little too rushed, and yeah, there's too many villains in the stew, but this is still by far the best comic book "Part III" to date (of course with competition like Superman III, Batman Forever and X-Men: The Last Stand, that might not be much). I had a heck of a lot of fun with it and it did the trick for me, although some fanboys will nitpick it all to death I'm sure. I'd say A-/B+ off the top of my head.

Superboy 05-03-07 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
I love it, and think the three movies work really well together as one piece. Is it perfect? Not quite - the ending act is a little too rushed, and yeah, there's too many villains in the stew, but this is still by far the best comic book "Part III" to date (of course with competition like Superman III, Batman Forever and X-Men: The Last Stand, that might not be much). I had a heck of a lot of fun with it and it did the trick for me, although some fanboys will nitpick it all to death I'm sure. I'd say A-/B+ off the top of my head.

Technically Superman Returns is the new Superman III. So maybe that's not so after all.

Superboy 05-03-07 05:50 AM

I really don't know what to make of this movie. I came out of both Spider-man 1 and 2 very disappointed but later learned to love those movies. I felt the first was too dark, and didn't do enough to develop the Green Goblin. The second had too many awkward moments between characters that were neither humorous nor touching. However I later came to really appreciate not only the technical qualities of these movies - something that really disappointed me the first time i saw them - but how they encapsulate the vision and storytelling of the character so well.

It might therefore be my expectations again creeping up on me and ruining this movie for me. Again, just like the first two movies, I thought the action sequences were cheesy, overdone, unrealistically animated, poorly choreographed, and awkwardly presented. And also like the first two I thought some dialog sequences were way overdone, ham-handed, and lacked flavor. And yet again, I felt like the movie was too long and accomplished little in the time that I was watching it, but needed another hour or two to fully develop its story.

So while I might enjoy this movie sometime in the future, I can't say that I really enjoyed watching it for now. I felt bored most of the movie, with long takes on actors who can't show a single genuine facial expression, filling in holes that are otherwise occupied with meandering, circular dialog. The action sequences were spectacularly executed, but they felt flat and repetitive, especially in the light of how the second movie focused more on drama, and less on outright bloody fistfights. Some sequences really felt out of place in the movie, and the overt patriotism - something that contrasts very sharply with Superman Returns - made me wonder if the studio executives made more than half of this movie. It was almost as bad as the blatant product placement of the first film.

Perhaps it is just that Spider-man is such a difficult character to bring to life on film - and he is, from the perspective of a comics fan. It's hard to get a man to move like you think that Spider-man would, at the speeds that he does, with the same grace and precision. His villains are not conducive to appearing threatening, because they were spawned in an age where they were much more comical in appearance. But perhaps the worst part of the movie is that it even manages to fail to capture the easiest character in the Spider-man universe to bring to film: Peter Parker, the everyman.

Dr. DVD 05-03-07 09:39 AM

Well said Superboy. I liked the first Spider-Man when I saw it in theaters, but it took a second viewing of part II for me to really enjoy it. When I first saw II, my expectations were through the roof after reading all of the dynamite reviews. Naturally, I was let down.
I think I might like this one as the reviews so far have me less than amped and my expectations low. Of course I might look back and realize it was a shoe-horning story. Having watched the other two over the past few nights, I intend to try and view this as the third act of a single play as opposed to a stand alone story. I think that way everything seems more developed. Still kind of peeved they just decided to throw Venom in superfluously though. I realize he is a fan favorite and all, so logic would dictate if you are going to have him there, he needs to be a movie in and of himself.

RichC2 05-03-07 10:57 AM

I'm seeing this tonight and hope it's enjoyable. Spider-man 1 was, imo, a bad movie. It had pacing problems, boring action, and a boring villian. It had moments of greatness but was mostly just bland. Spider-man 2 reversed all of that, and was a fantastic movie with far fewer problems and was a thoroughly enjoyable film with interesting character conflicts, great action and a fantastic villian.

Dr. DVD 05-03-07 01:57 PM

I really don't know how to read into these reviews. Most say it is only a mild disappointment that still entertains, while the net based ones make it sound like a "Matrix Revolutions" type travesty. Granted, I kind of liked Revolutions, but that's me.

maingon 05-03-07 03:26 PM

our newspaper gave it 3.5/4 stars

raven56706 05-03-07 03:29 PM

Matrix Revolutions sucked so bad...

Quake1028 05-03-07 04:04 PM

Off to see a semi early free screening. Will be back later with thoughts :).

riley_dude 05-03-07 05:44 PM

The S.F Chronicle reviewed it today. The little Man was asleep.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...DGE7PJ9TN1.DTL

GeoffK 05-03-07 05:49 PM

David Walker likes it: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=27861
Jamie Rich Hates it: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=27890

and Brian Orndorf is right in the middle: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=27868

Superboy 05-03-07 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Well said Superboy. I liked the first Spider-Man when I saw it in theaters, but it took a second viewing of part II for me to really enjoy it. When I first saw II, my expectations were through the roof after reading all of the dynamite reviews. Naturally, I was let down.
I think I might like this one as the reviews so far have me less than amped and my expectations low. Of course I might look back and realize it was a shoe-horning story. Having watched the other two over the past few nights, I intend to try and view this as the third act of a single play as opposed to a stand alone story. I think that way everything seems more developed. Still kind of peeved they just decided to throw Venom in superfluously though. I realize he is a fan favorite and all, so logic would dictate if you are going to have him there, he needs to be a movie in and of himself.

It was the same for me. My second viewing of Spider-man 2 really improved it for me. It's now one of my favorite movies.

porieux 05-03-07 07:31 PM

Judging by the first two movies and the trailer, I will not be seeing this.

OldBoy 05-03-07 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by porieux
Judging by the first two movies and the trailer, I will not be seeing this.

guess you'll be the only one.

EricDSnider 05-03-07 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by gkleinman

And what is Eric D. Snider, chopped liver?! ;-)
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=27895

Teremei 05-03-07 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
MJ was really protrayed pretty bad in the film. While her attitude is somewhat justified Gwen came out shinning as a better choice for Peter.. Which they really didn't spend that much time introducing or fleshing out. She was simply replacement material in the event of dunst not coming back. Who knows.

When you say Gwen. You mean that sweet girl that baked him a cake? If so I have to agree with you here. MJ and PP don't really have a strong on screen chemistry. In any case, I'm glad to know that "other girl" gets some screen time. If I am totally mistaken, please ignore this comment. :D

RichC2 05-03-07 08:57 PM

Totally mistaken :)

Jackskeleton 05-03-07 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Teremei
When you say Gwen. You mean that sweet girl that baked him a cake? If so I have to agree with you here. MJ and PP don't really have a strong on screen chemistry. In any case, I'm glad to know that "other girl" gets some screen time. If I am totally mistaken, please ignore this comment. :D


No, I mean Gwen Stacy. Peter's first love in the comics. Killed by a snapped neck in the comics.

The Russian chick does get some screen time but Gwen doesn't get much of the attention she deserves in this film. So there's two "other girls" in this film.

The Russian gal who baked him his cake and now needs to get him some nuts in his cookies has some funny "douche bag Parker" moments.

Quake1028 05-03-07 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Quake1028
Off to see a semi early free screening. Will be back later with thoughts :).

Well, I need some time (and probably a repeat viewing or 3) to make my final judgment, but for right now, I will call it 2>3>1, but all of them fairly close. FWIW I don't consider SM2 the best comic movie ever as some do, so there's some background for the ratings. Some very, very cheesey scenes and dialogue, but the action was better than the first two films easily.

Quake1028 05-03-07 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by LivingINClip
Not quite the same, but I understand what you are aiming for. The big difference is, Falcone could be described as , at best a side villain. Scarecrow was minor also, with the big threat being Ra's. This on the other hand, you have the Harry angle, Venom (a fan favorite - that can't be delegated down to a minor) and then you have Sandman - which with the Uncle Ben angle, becomes more than a minor villain.

The way it's handled IMO it doesn't become too much of a clusterfuck. The villains are spread out enough for me.

RichC2 05-04-07 02:09 AM

They handled the villians fine in this movie (they were shallow but not distractingly so), it was the hillariously over the top emo parker, horrendously cornball ending (think Matrix Revolutions level corny), and seemingly high school geared love plotline that hurt the movie.

That said, I enjoyed it more than last summers "big movies" (Its actually pretty close to X3 in terms of quality but with higher highs and equal lows, and it didn't bore me into submission like Dead Man's Chest) as it didn't bore me, it just made me cringe from time to time. The CG on sandman wasn't all that hot later on, either.

Overall, fitting conclusion to the trilogy, and a good overall movie, just corny and overwritten.

** 1/2 out of ****

Edit: for some reason, the movie didn't have the same feeling the first two had, which may be a great thing for some, I considered it part of the charm (of the second at least, I didn't care for the original.)

Patman 05-04-07 02:13 AM

I think "Disappointing" will be the operative word used when reviewing Spider-Man 3. There are some awful emo-Parker scenes that just made me cringe, but some of the Darker Parker scenes almost made up for it in the mid-section of the film. The villains and their motivations are threadbare and just uninteresting and made for a very uninvolving last act.

The fight scenes looked clunky and just didn't quite strike the right balance of amazing action sequences and the "cool" factor. It got downright repetitive and vertigo-inducing far too much.

There are comic relief scenes that just utterly stop the film dead in its tracks to its detriment. Raimi took a step backwards with this installment of the Spider-Man franchise. It almost had the feel of a cash-grab, with very little to say, or what was said was so clumsily executed and drab.

I give it 2.5 stars or a grade of C+, which is being charitable.


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