Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
But this concept of a kid stuck in an adult superhero's body is a great one - and honestly i can't really think of another popular character like that. There was a character named RAGE in the New Warriors books (i used to read those back in the day) who was a teenager whose body rapidly aged into adulthood (but he was still a teenager mentally). He was an Avenger for a short period before they found out he was still a kid, and "demoted" him. Then he helped out the New Warriors (including stealing a Quinjet), and joined up with them.
But other than that, i'm drawing a blank (i'm sure i'm missing an obvious one, i always do when i say there's nothing else like it out there...). So it's pretty unique, and relatable for kids. Should be cool to see on the big screen.
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
The only one I can think of (other than Mary Marvel) off the top of my head was at least partially inspired by Captain Marvel, and that was the Malibu Ultraverse superhero Prime. Maybe someone like Hawk or Firestorm, but they're not really kids, they're older teenagers.
It was a major plot point in Thundercats, though.
It was a major plot point in Thundercats, though.
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The only one I can think of (other than Mary Marvel) off the top of my head was at least partially inspired by Captain Marvel, and that was the Malibu Ultraverse superhero Prime. Maybe someone like Hawk or Firestorm, but they're not really kids, they're older teenagers.
It was a major plot point in Thundercats, though.
It was a major plot point in Thundercats, though.
Hawk and firestorm are good ones (regarding transformation), although not really a jump from kid to adulthood when they transform, from what i recall. I always took it as their transformations being the same age. But admittedly, what i know of Hawk and Firestorm is DC Animated stuff, not really the comics.
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
This page brings up one I haven't thought of in ages:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.../OlderAlterEgo
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, way way before the isekai trend happened. And, I guess, Magik from X-men.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.../OlderAlterEgo
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, way way before the isekai trend happened. And, I guess, Magik from X-men.
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This page brings up one I haven't thought of in ages:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.../OlderAlterEgo
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, way way before the isekai trend happened. And, I guess, Magik from X-men.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p.../OlderAlterEgo
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, way way before the isekai trend happened. And, I guess, Magik from X-men.
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The only one I can think of (other than Mary Marvel) off the top of my head was at least partially inspired by Captain Marvel, and that was the Malibu Ultraverse superhero Prime. Maybe someone like Hawk or Firestorm, but they're not really kids, they're older teenagers.
It was a major plot point in Thundercats, though.
It was a major plot point in Thundercats, though.
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
I don't read the comics anymore, but DC's animated series and features have had CM as the "Kid in the Adult" body for some time now. In other words, a lovable childlike goof with powers who looks up to the adult JL'ers. Some featured him more serious than others but it's been more or less within a range.
So why are people speaking about CM as if this movie is doing something new?
So why are people speaking about CM as if this movie is doing something new?
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I don't read the comics anymore, but DC's animated series and features have had CM as the "Kid in the Adult" body for some time now. In other words, a lovable childlike goof with powers who looks up to the adult JL'ers. Some featured him more serious than others but it's been more or less within a range.
So why are people speaking about CM as if this movie is doing something new?
So why are people speaking about CM as if this movie is doing something new?
Then I derailed the thread into discussion of other characters that are kids in adult bodies.
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
I don't know what Phantom Stranger's spoiler was that he deleted, so maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to be based on the storyline in Geoff John's run, which was a backup in the new 52 Justice League comic book he was writing. The main difference is, like I said before, Johns made the Billy Batson character into a delinquent and that doesn't seem to be the case here, but the setup is similar.
The modern incarnation has pretty much always been that Captain Marvel is basically Billy's idolized version of a superhero crossed with
, and that he's still Billy just in an adult body, ala Big. He's a straight laced superhero because that's what Billy thinks a superhero should act like. I think Johns tried to introduce some modern teenager elements into Billy because a lot of adaptations had him stuck as a "golly gee whiz" teen from the 70s, which is.. hard to relate to. But I think he went too far into "annoying rebellious teen" mode.
The modern incarnation has pretty much always been that Captain Marvel is basically Billy's idolized version of a superhero crossed with
Spoiler:
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
No matter how good or bad the movie will be, this is always the first thing I think of when I hear the word Shazam. I used to love this show as a kid.
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No matter how good or bad the movie will be, this is always the first thing I think of when I hear the word Shazam. I used to love this show as a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgXeXTuKGhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgXeXTuKGhM
Nothing sketchy about that...
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
That's no teenaged boy...
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I want to say it was Lionsgate that optioned Prime back in the 1990s. It was one of those situations where it was only likely in case someone had gone forward with a Captain Marvel movie. Hollywood studios love stealing another studio's thunder by releasing a similar movie in the same window.
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I was thinking more some kind of Black Adam reveal (he's not in this movie, right?) and save Jr. and Mary for the next one. But I'd love to see CM Jr. if only for the contrast between adult and kid wearing the costume.
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
Unless it's truly a surprise, I doubt Dwayne Johnson makes a cameo appearance, even in a post credit scene. But who knows...
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No matter how good or bad the movie will be, this is always the first thing I think of when I hear the word Shazam. I used to love this show as a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgXeXTuKGhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgXeXTuKGhM
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Re: Shazam! (2019, D: David F. Sandberg) S: Zachary Levi
Rumor:
The movie doesn't come out until April. It's feasible that they could have shot this late. But, take it with a grain of salt for now.
The movie doesn't come out until April. It's feasible that they could have shot this late. But, take it with a grain of salt for now.
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3 films wasn’t enough audience engagement?