79th Annual Academy Award Discussion! Nominee's inside!
#151
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I think you can still may a legitimate argument for 4 films for best picture, which is pretty unusal at this point. The acting categories seem all but locked up, however. And I'm going to wait on the DGAs to see how they play out for Director. But back to best picture:
The Departed
Pro: A Scorsese flick with a big name cast, it was well loved and easily the highest grossing movie of the bunch. If Scorsese does win director, it should help The Departed's cause.
Cons: Largely ignored in the awards season thus far despite being what most considered the favorite going in. It lost the GG to Babel (and the GGs love Scorsese), lost the SAG ensemble to LMS (admittedly not a best picture award), hasn't won any other major awards (except GG for Scorsese, but I can't read much from that since I already stated that the GGs love Scorsese), and didn't get that many Oscar noms. I get the feeling people aren't that hot fot his movie. Still, if it doesn't win, who will?
Little Miss Sunshine
Pro: Won the SAG ensemble award, and after crash did last year I think alot of people are reading a lot into that.
Con: Comedys and independents traditionally don't do well in this categorey and the SAG ensemble probably doesn't mean as much as some people think it will (remember Traffic, Gosford Park, and Sideways all also won the award this decade with no best picture award). Lack of other Oscar nominations doesn't help, although its not the kind of movie to get many either.
Babel
Pro: Won the GG, which the best picture winner has won 5 of 7 times this decade. Most Oscar nominations of the contenders.
Con: No other major wins of note.
Letters from Iwo Jima
Pro: Eastwood directed it, and the Academy does love Eastwood. Critically loved
Con: Has anyone seen it? A foreign language film has never won best picture, but then again most of time they aren't American movies. The guilds ignored this movie (generally a really bad sign), but I'm not sure if anyone in the guilds even saw it (did they send out screeners. Pretty much a darkhorse that's hard to get a read on.
The Departed
Pro: A Scorsese flick with a big name cast, it was well loved and easily the highest grossing movie of the bunch. If Scorsese does win director, it should help The Departed's cause.
Cons: Largely ignored in the awards season thus far despite being what most considered the favorite going in. It lost the GG to Babel (and the GGs love Scorsese), lost the SAG ensemble to LMS (admittedly not a best picture award), hasn't won any other major awards (except GG for Scorsese, but I can't read much from that since I already stated that the GGs love Scorsese), and didn't get that many Oscar noms. I get the feeling people aren't that hot fot his movie. Still, if it doesn't win, who will?
Little Miss Sunshine
Pro: Won the SAG ensemble award, and after crash did last year I think alot of people are reading a lot into that.
Con: Comedys and independents traditionally don't do well in this categorey and the SAG ensemble probably doesn't mean as much as some people think it will (remember Traffic, Gosford Park, and Sideways all also won the award this decade with no best picture award). Lack of other Oscar nominations doesn't help, although its not the kind of movie to get many either.
Babel
Pro: Won the GG, which the best picture winner has won 5 of 7 times this decade. Most Oscar nominations of the contenders.
Con: No other major wins of note.
Letters from Iwo Jima
Pro: Eastwood directed it, and the Academy does love Eastwood. Critically loved
Con: Has anyone seen it? A foreign language film has never won best picture, but then again most of time they aren't American movies. The guilds ignored this movie (generally a really bad sign), but I'm not sure if anyone in the guilds even saw it (did they send out screeners. Pretty much a darkhorse that's hard to get a read on.
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Having won the SAG award and PGA, Little Miss Sunshine has a shot at winning the Oscar for Best Picture on Oscar night. Even with only 4 nods, it's a great refreshing film and even if it does not win for BP at the Oscars, it's clearly one of the best films of 2006 and will go down as a classic piece of American cinema, IMO.
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Originally Posted by hardercore
Fuck the SAG. Once all the buzz dies down how fucking embarassed is everyone going to be when they look back to the year when Arkin, Breslin, Collette, Carrell, Kinnear, and Dano beat an ensemble on Screen Legends (Nicholson, Sheen, Baldwin, Winstone), and younger actors who finally showed their worth (DiCaprio, Damon, Wahlberg) that all gave terrific performances. Fuck the SAG. This is an embarassment. I'm not just pulling the all-star cast card here, the performances in The Departed were far better, all-star cast or not.
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Originally Posted by hardercore
Don't get me wrong, I loved Little Miss Sunshine (My #5 film fo the year). But if it takes Best Picture, I'm going to fucking flip.
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This could be one of the easiest guessed Oscars in a while for me. Acting is all locked up. I think only Best Picture will be the "hmmm..." category this year.
As much as I loved the Departed it seems wrong for Scorsese to win Best Director when he should've won for Raging Bull.
As much as I loved the Departed it seems wrong for Scorsese to win Best Director when he should've won for Raging Bull.
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Originally Posted by dvd_luver
Having won the SAG award and PGA, Little Miss Sunshine has a shot at winning the Oscar for Best Picture on Oscar night.
Faux award shows are so easy to predict (eyes rolling).
#158
Last night, the ACE (American Cinema Editors) had a tie by choosing both Best Picture contenders, Babel and The Departed, as their winners for best edited drama. Dreamgirls defeated Little Miss Sunshine for best edited comedy/musical.
I think this still helps The Departed, as it now has victories at the DGA, WGA, and ACE.
Also announced, Children of Men won the American Society of Cinematographers Outstanding Achievement Awards, which inches it closer to taking the Oscar. It's been the favorite for some time now.
I think this still helps The Departed, as it now has victories at the DGA, WGA, and ACE.
Also announced, Children of Men won the American Society of Cinematographers Outstanding Achievement Awards, which inches it closer to taking the Oscar. It's been the favorite for some time now.
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Originally Posted by dvd_luver
How could anyone who loves films and movies not be rooting for a film like Little Miss Sunshine to win Best Picture on Oscar night. It is the little engine that could on an $8 million dollar budget, and I really think it was the best film of 2006 because everything in the film works to perfection. Everything. It has all the makings of what a Best Picture winner should be despite not fitting the traditional mold of serious drama/film. It has drama, but it's such a film I am rooting for because I don't think it was ever a film made to be considered Oscar bait, they just made a film with lots of substance and plenty of heart and it's an enjoyable film that will make you root for it.
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How about choosing a film with some guts? Some grittyness? Some suspense? I'd rather see that than a standard, run-of-the-mill family dramady. The "quirky" family movies are getting stale. How often do you get a film that features DiCaprio, Damon, Nicholson, with the former 2 at the top of their game? Add in Wahlberg's terrific and well-deserved nominated performance. Then you have Sheen and Baldwin providing solid supporting roles. And all of this gets wrapped together beatufilly by editor Film
Thelma Schoonmaker, who could very well be winning another Oscar. This is a film where you actually have to pay attention to the story.
LMS offers the suspense of, "will they make it to the beauty pageant in time?" Who cares?
The Departed has all the momentum right now with DGA and WGA victories. The co-victory at the ACE last night adds even more. LMS will win its runner-up Screenplay award and that's it. The party's over.
Thelma Schoonmaker, who could very well be winning another Oscar. This is a film where you actually have to pay attention to the story.
LMS offers the suspense of, "will they make it to the beauty pageant in time?" Who cares?
The Departed has all the momentum right now with DGA and WGA victories. The co-victory at the ACE last night adds even more. LMS will win its runner-up Screenplay award and that's it. The party's over.
Last edited by Mr. Cinema; 02-19-07 at 08:36 AM.
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I really enjoyed the Departed, but why is it that Departed fans love to ridicule LMS for being 'just another family/road trip movie'? It's not like there is a shortage of excellent mob/cop movies out there. I don't think LMS should win, but I find some of the arguments against it pretty silly.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
How about choosing a film with some guts? Some grittyness? Some suspense? I'd rather see that than a standard, run-of-the-mill family dramady. The "quirky" family movies are getting stale. How often do you get a film that features DiCaprio, Damon, Nicholson, with the former 2 at the top of their game? Add in Wahlberg's terrific and well-deserved nominated performance. Then you have Sheen and Baldwin providing solid supporting roles. And all of this gets wrapped together beatufilly by editor Film
Thelma Schoonmaker, who well be winning another Oscar. This is a film where you actually have to pay attention to the story.
LMS offers the suspense of, "will they make it to the beauty pageant in time?" Who cares?
Thelma Schoonmaker, who well be winning another Oscar. This is a film where you actually have to pay attention to the story.
LMS offers the suspense of, "will they make it to the beauty pageant in time?" Who cares?
BUT, there's no way Abigail Breslin deserves a nod over Half-Nelson's Shareeka Epps. I watched Sunshine and Nelson back-to-back and while Breslin is fantastic, Epps more than held her own against Ryan Gosling.
And I know it's a long shot as Whitaker seems to be a lock for Best Actor, but I really hope the Academy is giving Gosling's performance serious consideration.
I really enjoyed the Departed, but why is it that Departed fans love to ridicule LMS for being 'just another family/road trip movie'? It's not like there is a shortage of excellent mob/cop movies out there. I don't think LMS should win, but I find some of the arguments against it pretty silly.
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Thought LMS was pretty average. What makes it even worse is it took the place of Children of Men and/or United 93. That is truly pathetic.
I was able to watch Half Nelson last week and thought Gosling was amazing. Epps was very strong as well. I too would have chosen her for the "kid" nomination. However, neither was as good as Emily Blunt in "The Devil Wears Prada".
I was able to watch Half Nelson last week and thought Gosling was amazing. Epps was very strong as well. I too would have chosen her for the "kid" nomination. However, neither was as good as Emily Blunt in "The Devil Wears Prada".
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Thought LMS was pretty average. What makes it even worse is it took the place of Children of Men and/or United 93. That is truly pathetic.
I still see why neither of those weren't nominated (both are more experiences than movies) but they were quality.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
What makes it even worse is it took the place of...United 93. That is truly pathetic.
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Best Pic Lineup should have been:
The Departed
Letters From Iwo Jima
Children Of Men
United 93
The Queen or Pan's Labyrinth
I did not enjoy Children Of Men all that much the first time I saw it. The second time I liked it more, and the third (and most recent) time I've seen it, I picked up on some of the layers in the film and think it really deserves to be up there amonsgt the best films of 06 contending for Oscar.
The only film that I wouldn't really mind beating The Departed though is United 93. It's a damn shame it likely wasn't even watched enough to get nominated (Academy members finding it too hard to pop their screeners in).
The Departed
Letters From Iwo Jima
Children Of Men
United 93
The Queen or Pan's Labyrinth
I did not enjoy Children Of Men all that much the first time I saw it. The second time I liked it more, and the third (and most recent) time I've seen it, I picked up on some of the layers in the film and think it really deserves to be up there amonsgt the best films of 06 contending for Oscar.
The only film that I wouldn't really mind beating The Departed though is United 93. It's a damn shame it likely wasn't even watched enough to get nominated (Academy members finding it too hard to pop their screeners in).
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The only film that I wouldn't really mind beating The Departed though is United 93. It's a damn shame it likely wasn't even watched enough to get nominated (Academy members finding it too hard to pop their screeners in).
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Can anybody tell me why Eddie Murphy deserves to win for Supporting Actor? His performance was adequate at best - he sang, he acted, he had his cheesy grin on. A switch for Murphy was the drugs, but still...I don't see what was so Oscar-worthy about it.
Maybe someone can explain it.
Not for nothing, but I didn't think Mark Wahlberg lit the world on fire with his role in The Departed, either. He was a good smart-ass, but the award is for acting
I didn't see the other nominees films...
Maybe someone can explain it.
Not for nothing, but I didn't think Mark Wahlberg lit the world on fire with his role in The Departed, either. He was a good smart-ass, but the award is for acting
I didn't see the other nominees films...
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Not for nothing, but I didn't think Mark Wahlberg lit the world on fire with his role in The Departed, either. He was a good smart-ass, but the award is for acting
Of all the nominees in all the categories, this one probably made the least sense to me.
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Originally Posted by hardercore
You're reasoning is exactly why it should not win. The Academy needs to grow some balls and not take the safe, happy, heart-warming film for a change. Let's see another year where the Best Picture is in the vein of Silence Of The Lambs. That's what a win for The Departed would be.
Can anybody tell me why Eddie Murphy deserves to win for Supporting Actor? His performance was adequate at best - he sang, he acted, he had his cheesy grin on. A switch for Murphy was the drugs, but still...I don't see what was so Oscar-worthy about it.
Maybe someone can explain it.
Maybe someone can explain it.
I really enjoyed the Departed, but why is it that Departed fans love to ridicule LMS for being 'just another family/road trip movie'? It's not like there is a shortage of excellent mob/cop movies out there. I don't think LMS should win, but I find some of the arguments against it pretty silly
The Departed has all the momentum right now with DGA and WGA victories. The co-victory at the ACE last night adds even more. LMS will win its runner-up Screenplay award and that's it. The party's over.
Not for nothing, but I didn't think Mark Wahlberg lit the world on fire with his role in The Departed, either. He was a good smart-ass, but the award is for acting
Little Miss Sunshine will, of course, lose Best Picture to The Departed
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one more day till zero hour. i am in a pool at school and 2nd guessing my Best Pic and Best Foreign, but feel pretty good on the others. whenever i am in a pool i always feel so much more invested in the event (SB, NCAA, etc). makes it more fun too.