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Originally Posted by Caliking
The movie was predictable...But AWESOME! A good movie does not have to be "tricky" or whatever.
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I saw this tonight and liked it quite a bit. Ed Norton was the best part (wonderful performance). Very well done period piece with a solid story.
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This film had the most predictable and telegraphed "twist" since The Lake House but I still found it quite enjoyable. Fine and earnest acting plus unrushed, deliberate and fairly elegant pacing were mostly what saved it. I appreciated the recap at the end even though it had been obvious from the moment, well, if you've seen it you know. It was perhaps not entirely necessary but it did fill in a few details.
I saw no boom mics. It looks like the people who buy the full screen version of the film, though, are going to see them a lot. Serves them right! ;) |
Saw this tonight, and while it was "okay", it certainly was a let down. I like the way the film was shot, and the effects were great. But to me, Giamatti was the only convincing role. The others just seemed to be phoning it in. And yes, the ending was contrived. The film dragged in places, and Norton's flat performance didn't help advance the story.
I'd give it a B-. Definitely worth a rental, but I have a feeling that The Prestige will be the better "magic" movie this year. |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I'd give it a B-. Definitely worth a rental, but I have a feeling that The Prestige will be the better "magic" movie this year.
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Originally Posted by Peep
I agree. And it didn't help "The Illusionist" that the trailer for "The Prestige" preceded it. "Here's the movie that you're going to wish you saw instead."
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A good and entertaining, yet predictable movie, but....
SPOILER QUESTION: Did anyone else consider this movie as a symbolic reinvented Jesus Christ story with a happy ending or at least was thinking that the director was trying to throw off the audience to think that it was symbolic of the Jesus Christ story and ignore the obvious predictability starting right at Beil's staged death? Consider these interpretations: 1. Norton and Jesus can be interpreted as excellent magicians or super-powered beings. 2. Norton and Jesus were sons of a carpenter. 3. Norton and Jesus whereabouts were unknown from young teen til about late 30s. 4. Mary was considered by the masses to be a prostitute but she and Jesus were lovers 5. Beil was considered unfaithful by prince and police but she and Norton were lovers 6. Norton and Jesus have distrustful sidekicks only interested in money - the manager and Judas. In the movie though, the manager redeems himself, unlike Judas. 7. Jesus and Norton both act modest, say they aren't special, and have followers that spread the gossip of their powers/magic. 8. Giamatti is like a heroic Pontias Pilate that saves Jesus from getting arrested/killed. I thought the director was trying to say that if Jesus Christ came back today, he would be considered a magician by the masses. END SPOILER |
Originally Posted by toddly6666
A good and entertaining, yet predictable movie, but....
SPOILER QUESTION: Did anyone else consider this movie as a symbolic reinvented Jesus Christ story with a happy ending or at least was thinking that the director was trying to throw off the audience to think that it was symbolic of the Jesus Christ story and ignore the obvious predictability starting right at Beil's staged death? Consider these interpretations: 1. Norton and Jesus can be interpreted as excellent magicians or super-powered beings. 2. Norton and Jesus were sons of a carpenter. 3. Norton and Jesus whereabouts were unknown from young teen til about late 30s. 4. Mary was considered by the masses to be a prostitute but she and Jesus were lovers 5. Beil was considered unfaithful by prince and police but she and Norton were lovers 6. Norton and Jesus have distrustful sidekicks only interested in money - the manager and Judas. In the movie though, the manager redeems himself, unlike Judas. 7. Jesus and Norton both act modest, say they aren't special, and have followers that spread the gossip of their powers/magic. 8. Giamatti is like a heroic Pontias Pilate that saves Jesus from getting arrested/killed. I thought the director was trying to say that if Jesus Christ came back today, he would be considered a magician by the masses. END SPOILER All things are about Jesus, Homer. Except this. |
Originally Posted by toddly6666
A good and entertaining, yet predictable movie, but....
SPOILER QUESTION: Spoiler:
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I really liked this movie. One thing I really liked was how the Director used the quiet moments during the magic. I mean most modern filmakers feel the need to fill every scene with music instead of letting the actor's performace set the vibe and that sucks.
Here's my comparison, and I know many here will flame me but oh well...bite me. :D The Illusionist = Deep Impact... A decent film with less flash but overshadowed by another movie(Armageddon) with similar subject matter and more A-list actors. The Prestige = Armageddon... The 800 lbs. Gorilla with A-list stars/Director, flashier sfx, and possibly more over the top storyline. But still a likeable movie. |
Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I really liked this movie. One thing I really liked was how the Director used the quiet moments during the magic. I mean most modern filmakers feel the need to fill every scene with music instead of letting the actor's performace set the vibe and that sucks.
Here's my comparison, and I know many here will flame me but oh well...bite me. :D The Illusionist = Deep Impact... A decent film with less flash but overshadowed by another movie(Armageddon) with similar subject matter and more A-list actors. The Prestige = Armageddon... The 800 lbs. Gorilla with A-list stars/Director, flashier sfx, and possibly more over the top storyline. But still a likeable movie. Not going to bite you, was thinking along those lines. Although "Antz" and "A Bug's Life" came to mind ;) |
Originally Posted by Daytripper
Not going to bite you, was thinking along those lines. Although "Antz" and "A Bug's Life" came to mind ;)
Fair enough. I never saw "A Bug's Life" so I couldn't make the comparision. :D |
The movie didn't do quite as well as I thought it would at the box office this weekend...makes me think that people were not as impressed with it?!
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Originally Posted by fernsita
The movie didn't do quite as well as I thought it would at the box office this weekend...makes me think that people were not as impressed with it?!
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I liked it pretty well, although I don't think they needed to explain things quite so much at the end--I may be slow but I'm not a complete idiot.
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Originally Posted by fernsita
The movie didn't do quite as well as I thought it would at the box office this weekend...makes me think that people were not as impressed with it?!
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I don't think it's in wide release yet. I had to go to the local indie theater to see it. Either way though, word of mouth has been warm at best, especially with the big budget Prestige getting pushed heavily.
Word of mouth has been great. From boxofficemojo: Labor Day weekend's most impressive gross, though, ranked fifth. Proving to be a late summer sleeper, The Illusionist summoned an estimated $8 million at 971 venues over the extended weekend, its first nationwide. Like Little Miss Sunshine, the $16 million period drama has maintained a high per theater average with each expansion, suggesting broad appeal and strong word-of-mouth, and, with a $12.1 million gross in 17 days, it has already exceeded the rosiest of expectations prior to opening. |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I don't think it's in wide release yet. I had to go to the local indie theater to see it. Either way though, word of mouth has been warm at best, especially with the big budget Prestige getting pushed heavily.
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
Word of mouth has been great. From boxofficemojo:
Labor Day weekend's most impressive gross, though, ranked fifth. Proving to be a late summer sleeper, The Illusionist summoned an estimated $8 million at 971 venues over the extended weekend, its first nationwide. Like Little Miss Sunshine, the $16 million period drama has maintained a high per theater average with each expansion, suggesting broad appeal and strong word-of-mouth, and, with a $12.1 million gross in 17 days, it has already exceeded the rosiest of expectations prior to opening. Right at 75%, which is warm. Heck, even in this thread it's up and down. |
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/illusionist/
Right at 75%, which is warm. Heck, even in this thread it's up and down. |
Except, unlike "Little Miss Sunshine", expect this movie to be blown out of the water when "The Prestige" opens.
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Everyone's expecting so much of The Prestige, I can't help but think there's going to be a lot of disappointed viewers.
Hype kills. That said, by the time it comes out in late October, The Illusionist will already be on it's last legs in theaters. |
Originally Posted by Daytripper
Well, as we all know, that's just the critics. And "The Illusionist" also got an 88% cream of the crop on rottentomatoes. I believe the strong word of mouth they are referring to is from the actual movie goers. Who also gave it a B+ on boxofficemojo (so far), and it's currently at 7.6/10 on IMDB.
I also agree that the hype machine for the Prestige is probably jading some viewers. |
The Illusionist is like David Blaine
The Prestige is like David Copperfield I prefer David Blaine... |
Originally Posted by toddly6666
The Illusionist is like David Blaine
The Prestige is like David Copperfield I prefer David Blaine... |
Rich, sorry I haven't seen The Prestige yet..i was just adding another comparison to the deep impact/armgeddon, bug's life/antz conversation...
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Will you people stop comparing Christopher Nolan to David Copperfield and Michael Bay? You're giving me a heart attack. :lol:
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Originally Posted by The Bus
Will you people stop comparing Christopher Nolan to David Copperfield and Michael Bay? You're giving me a heart attack. :lol:
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Maybe the Dark Knight will be the Island meets Armaggedon.
OK, we all know "The Prestige" is going to kick ass. I just wish people would stop comparing it to "The Illusionist". Or having it compete against it. I loved "The Illusionist". And I'm sure I'll feel the same about "The Prestige". It's a win/win situation for me :) |
Originally Posted by mdc3000
I was a projectionist for years, it was the projectionists fault... there is more information in the film image than is actually supposed to be projected on screen (the film is FLAT ratio, where this is a problem)... if they had moved the frame UP on the screen, you would have seen what you were intended to see.
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Originally Posted by Daytripper
Good one.
OK, we all know "The Prestige" is going to kick ass. I just wish people would stop comparing it to "The Illusionist". Or having it compete against it. I loved "The Illusionist". And I'm sure I'll feel the same about "The Prestige". It's a win/win situation for me :) |
I thought the film had too ho-hum of a pace to it (plus I also guessed the outcome early in the film). The energy level was too understated, with the exception of Rufus Sewell, who's a royal bastiche with no redeemable qualities. Norton is good, but understated as the Illusionist. Biel is not as vacant as she typically is, given her past film credits, and actually connects with Norton in their scenes. Giamatti does his darnedest to be convincing in a role that ultimately undermines his character, but purposefully so. The minor nitpicks have to do with some of the illusional cheats for the film's time period that lower the plausibility of the illusions. It's definitely worth a matinee viewing if you are a fan of actors involved in the film.
I give it 2.75 stars, or a grade of B-. |
Originally Posted by Patman
Norton is good, but understated as the Illusionist. Biel is not as vacant as she typically is, given her past film credits, and actually connects with Norton in their scenes. Giamatti does his darnedest to be convincing in a role that ultimately undermines his character, but purposefully so.
overall, i really liked it and can't wait to pick it up on dvd. also makes me really excited for the prestige! |
I saw this last night, and I really enjoyed it. I'd read some great reviews beforehand on Rottentomatoes.com, and some bad ones by DVDTalk staff, so I wasn't sure how I'd like it. It really delivered for me, and I'll be getting the DVD when it comes out - for sure.
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One of the few times I enjoyed a movie knowing full well how it was going to end (were they seriously thinking people wouldn't figure this out?). Entertaining.... no more, no less.
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Let's give this one a bump. Saw it last night and loved it. Great story & acting.
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The Illusionist? (slight spoilers)
I just saw this and liked it ok
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[Edited to add spoiler tags, just in case. D-] |
It's out on DVD. I liked the atmosphere, I liked the colours and photography. I liked the art direction. I liked the story-telling. I liked the fictitious universe. (There never was a Crown Prince of Austria named Leopold in that era, by the way, although there was a suicidal Prince Rudolf he seems modeled on.) I was captivated. There is not a single misstep in the whole story. Edward Norton coasts on his good looks and elegance but that's part of the charm of this film. A very finely crafted work of art from a young director who can only go far.
I even liked it in spite of Philip Glass's score. Mr. Glass is a hack whose "music" gives me a rash but he is getting very good lately at recycling those same two ot three simplistic chords for mysterious effect. I can't wait to see The Prestige for comparison purposes. |
Originally Posted by ShaunoftheDead
I just saw this and liked it ok
Spoiler:
[Edited to add spoiler tags, just in case. D-] Spoiler:
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Entertaining. I liked the darkness of The Prestige, but the Illusionist had a better connected (tho predictable... they really did foreshadow the hell out of it, starting 10 minutes into the thing) conclusion.
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