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Old 06-20-06, 10:03 AM
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What is one scene from a movie that keeps it from being "timeless"?

Have you ever watched a movie that contained one scene that totally dates the movie and takes you out of it?

I started noticing this when I became an avid movie watcher. The first movie that triggered it was Spider-Man. The scene with Macy Gray really pulled me out of a movie that was otherwise not dated. Watching it now, it's painful to get through that scene. The second Spider-man was much better in this regard, with nothing that really dated the movie. But still, it keeps the movie from being a timeless classic.
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About 90% of Shrek, Shrek 2, and Shark Tale.
Old 06-20-06, 11:41 AM
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In Groundhog Day there are a lot of shots of the alarm clock changing over to 6am, so it's everything but timeless.
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
About 90% of Shrek, Shrek 2, and Shark Tale.
Yeah, Shrek and Shrek 2 and two major offenders. I don't know what the hell they were thinking with Shrek 2 when they used "Holding Out For a Hero" and "Livin' La Vida Loca", two songs which were already badly dated years before the movie was even made.
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Originally Posted by Doughboy
I don't know what the hell they were thinking with Shrek 2 when they used "Holding Out For a Hero" and "Livin' La Vida Loca", two songs which were already badly dated years before the movie was even made.
Doesn't the fact that those two songs were released about 15 years apart actually help to make the film MORE timeless?
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Originally Posted by Superboy
The scene with Macy Gray really pulled me out of a movie that was otherwise not dated.
The first thing I thought when I saw her in the movie is, "How pathetic is this going to be ten years from now when she's long gone from the music scene?" I was being generous, since it's already dated.

That goes for almost any musical act appearance in a movie. Most have a very short shelf-life. Like M.C. Hammer in The Last Action Hero, for instance. Even though he didn't sing, thank goodness, he still appeared as himself.
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
Doesn't the fact that those two songs were released about 15 years apart actually help to make the film MORE timeless?
No. No it doesn't.
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Originally Posted by Superboy
The scene with Macy Gray really pulled me out of a movie that was otherwise not dated.
That scene pulled me out of the movie when I saw it in the theater, when it was supposedly timely. It's just cheap corporate shilling, which will bring any decent movie to a screeching halt.
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I cringed when I heard that. I have NEVER cringed during a Pixar film before, ever.
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
No. No it doesn't.
So if they use Sinatra's "My Way" or Elvis' "Hound Dog" in a film, does that make it instantly dated?
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Not really a specific scene, but some of the wardrobe and hairstyles of A Clockwork Orange lets you know that it was shot in the 70's. The excellent high-quality of the picture had me fooled up untill then.

I had no idea that the movie was that old when I first saw it in '87.
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Not really a specific scene, but some of the wardrobe and hairstyles of A Clockwork Orange lets you know that it was shot in the 70's. The excellent high-quality of the picture had me fooled up untill then.

I had no idea that the movie was that old when I first saw it in '87.
The record shopping scene didn't clue you in?
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
The record shopping scene didn't clue you in?
Vinyl was still popular in the 80's!
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Originally Posted by Superboy
Have you ever watched a movie that contained one scene that totally dates the movie and takes you out of it?

I started noticing this when I became an avid movie watcher. The first movie that triggered it was Spider-Man. The scene with Macy Gray really pulled me out of a movie that was otherwise not dated. Watching it now, it's painful to get through that scene. The second Spider-man was much better in this regard, with nothing that really dated the movie. But still, it keeps the movie from being a timeless classic.
I'm willing to let the Macy Gray thing slide since Jameson mentions getting a picture of Julia Roberts in a thong. Not to mention the reflection of the WTC in Spidey's eyes. Spider-Man is dated by more than just Macy Gray.
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
So if they use Sinatra's "My Way" or Elvis' "Hound Dog" in a film, does that make it instantly dated?
I would agree with you. I don't follow how using a song makes a film dated. Maybe if the song was such a popular fad like the Macarena I could see a complaint. But when I hear most songs I don't automatically think of a particular time period.

As to the Spiderman example, its not like Macy Gray was the defining artist of the the time period or anything. I'm not even sure most people really know who she was. Furtermore, everytime I hear a song, it doesn't define an era for me. I don't think every movie with a beach boys song (i.e. Love Actually) is dated simply by using a song from a different decade. But maybe it's me.
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Vinyl was still popular in the 80's!
Good point. I guess it was still fairly prevalent in '87 (though will be a dead giveaway now).
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I love The Ring, but since the main story is about a VHS tape, it does make it feel dated a bit.
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About 90% of Shrek, Shrek 2, and Shark Tale.
What he said.
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Any science fiction movie where the computer is a wall of reel-to-reel tape machines.
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The old prop driven planes in Pearl Harbor. Get with the times, people!
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
So if they use Sinatra's "My Way" or Elvis' "Hound Dog" in a film, does that make it instantly dated?
Neither "Living La Vida Loca" or "Holding Out For A Hero" has the iconic stature of Sinatra or Elvis. Heck, up until SHREK 2 had anyone even remembered some third-rate single off of the FOOTLOOSE soundtrack? And Ricky Martin?!! Sorry but if I'm gonna flip the proverbial bacon trampoline, I am NOT gonna flood the canoe, know what I mean?
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
About 90% of Shrek, Shrek 2, and Shark Tale.
Word.
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
Sorry but if I'm gonna flip the proverbial bacon trampoline, I am NOT gonna flood the canoe, know what I mean?
Exaaaactly.





















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