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vegasbaby 05-16-06 10:22 PM

Word on 'Da Vinci Code' ? Not good.
 
Word from Cannes from the first screening this evening isnt a good one.

Critics didnt like it. No clapping whatsover at the closing credits.

It'll still make a ton of money the first 2 weekends.

Then lets wait for the dvd.

MartinBlank 05-16-06 10:57 PM

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/da_vinci_code/

Apparerently not enough reviews to support any sort of a rating? What reviews have you read so far?

B.A. 05-16-06 10:59 PM

Jeffrey Wells said that it was Howard's worst film since Far & Away:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archi...ng_balloon.php

NitroJMS 05-16-06 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by B.A.
Jeffrey Wells said that it was Howard's worst film since Far & Away:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archi...ng_balloon.php

I guess he didn't see The Grinch.

Mad Dawg 05-16-06 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by MartinBlank
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/da_vinci_code/

Apparerently not enough reviews to support any sort of a rating? What reviews have you read so far?

There is a link to a news story in the other thread here on the front page. A couple of reviewers are quoted as not liking the film and the response in the audience was apparently ugly, including laughter and jeering. This is the critics' screening before the film opens the festival tomorrow.

FoxNews.com, on the other hand, has an early review, which says despite some rough moments, it's very good summer fare.

B.A. 05-16-06 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by NitroJMS
I guess he didn't see The Grinch.

:lol: Probably not.

Jackskeleton 05-16-06 11:51 PM


FoxNews.com, on the other hand, has an early review, which says despite some rough moments, it's very good summer fare.
Which surprises me.. cause I mean they are carrying the catholic voice of america.

Joe Molotov 05-16-06 11:54 PM

I haven't read much of Dan Brown, but what I did, I didn't like. I was kinda interested in seeing this because of Howard and Hanks and also because I do enjoy a good conspiracy story, but I'll definitely be waiting for the DVD.

chrisih8u 05-17-06 12:18 AM

From the Boston Globe critic:

"I didn't like it very much. I thought it was almost as bad as the book."

Granted, you dont have to like a book to enjoy the movie adaptation, but I think if you hate the book, hating the movie isnt too surprising. I will see it anyway, even though I havent read the book.

Argentoholic 05-17-06 01:19 AM

I'm only watching it to avoid reading the book. Then I can see what all the fuss is about (unless it's a bad adaptation...is it?)

Matthew Chmiel 05-17-06 01:59 AM

As much as I thinks Wells is an asshat, he's been fucking spot-on with his past two summer blockbuster reviews (Poseidon and M:I-3).

I've never been a fan of Howard, but the cast is stellar. However, with Goldsman writing the screenplay, I am not surprised it sucks. Man hasn't written a decent screenplay yet and how he has an Oscar is beyond me.

Dash 05-17-06 02:03 AM

I loved the book so this is a must see for me. My 2nd move of the year after V for vendeta. This is a slow year for me because I usually watch alot of movies.

NatrlBornThrllr 05-17-06 04:22 AM

Many words on 'Da Vinci Code' have been posted in that film's existing thread.

-JP

Mr. Cinema 05-17-06 06:13 AM

If DaVinci Code and Xmen 3 turn out to be bad like many are saying, this has certainly turned out to be a crappy Summer kickoff. I'm planning to see both still opening weekend. I picked DaVinci Code to be the highest grossing for this season, but looks like it may not have legs to do that, but it will have a huge opening.

Looks like Pirates 2 is the safest pick, but Cars and Superman Returns still have a chance.

I really hope the Summer movies start to get better. I liked M:I3 and thought Poseidon was very average. My expectations for the next big 2 are not very high...

baracine 05-17-06 06:57 AM

First "official" review from Time Out (England)
 
Well, they didn't like it: http://www.timeout.com/film/news/1143.html


'The Da Vinci Code' review
Direct from Cannes, read Time Out's early reaction to the biggest film of the year.
Dave Calhoun | May 17 2006

'The Da Vinci Code'

Film critics curious as to the current whereabouts of the Holy Grail were given a helping-hand by Ron Howard last night as his 'Da Vinci Code' screened to the press at the Cannes Film Festival on the eve of today's world premiere of the film on the Croisette.

Here's a clue: security guards at one of Paris' main art galleries should be on the look-out for any crazed critics being trailed by freaky scions of the Catholic church who wear traditional garb while dashing around France in Renault Clios and whispering murderous orders into mobile phones.

If ever there was a movie marriage made in hell it was that between novelist Dan Brown and film director Ron Howard. Brown's clunky, awkward prose is well matched to Howard's frighteningly earnest, spoon-feeding approach to cinema.

To his credit, Howard keeps his movie ticking along at a much more acceptable pace than he ever achieved in 'Cinderella Man' and if - and it's quite a big if - you're willing to ignore the monstrous perversion of the garbled historicism at its core, then you might even enjoy some of its wild fancy as it sweeps through a host of grand French and British locations - Saint Sulpice, the Louvre, Lincoln Cathedral, the Rosslyn Chapel, various chateaus - and tries to convince its audience that Robert Langdon (Tom Hanks), a well-natured Harvard professor of 'religious symbology' and Sophie Neveu (Audrey Tautou), a code-breaking policewoman can, over the course of about twenty-hours, uncover one of the greatest conspiracies at the heart of the Catholic church: a cover-up of the marriage between Jesus and Mary Magdalene, who, the film argues, together bore a child whose blood-line still survives in modern France.

It's all complete guff, of course, however compelling you may find 'The Da Vinci Code' as a middle-of-the-road film thriller. Hanks and Tautou sprint their way through two-and-a-half hours of relentless, ridiculous exposition and condescending explanations of the past 2,000 years of ecclesiastical history that would make a GCSE history teacher blush with embarrassment.

The script leaves nothing to the imagination as it attempts to make clear a plot that forever chews on its own tail and devises cunning get-out-clauses. It's buoyed along, though, by some fine character turns from Paul Bettany as the monk Silus, a ghostly and slavish follower of Opus Dei who favours a good bout of flagellation in the morning over a frothy coffee, and from Ian McKellan as Sir Leigh Teabing, a wealthy, crippled dandy and an expert in the holy grail and the facts of Jesus' secret sex-life who always has a plane ready if Brown's plot needs to make a quick escape across the Channel.

Of course, only an idiot would swallow any of Brown's hysterical, magpie approach to history. This is historical fiction that fully indulges our appetite for conspiracy and willingness to feel disempowered at the hands of the past. The only good idea in the film is that historical orthodoxies come and go, shaped and altered by the ideas and the power structures of a particular time.

Of course, the film itself is just such a product of our own age, a time when we feel confident enough in Europe to stick two fingers up at some of the hokum pocum of the Catholic Church without really understanding or even really caring where it's coming from.

Is it a radical film then? No, of course not, and these ideas only float loosely around its pulpy edge. Most annoyingly, Howard utterly cops out from following through on his film's innate wildness when, at the end, it segues into sappy, comfortable territory and Hanks' character concludes, horribly, that if we can learn anything from his crazy adventure it's that Jesus was probably still a nice man. Thanks Ron. Thanks a lot.
Another earlier positive review by England's trashiest tabloid, The Mirror, is highly suspect: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...e_page.html%20

Seems the reporter saw a rough cut of the film without the music - a whole week before the premiere - and felt obligated to gush... On the plus side, this brown-nose does manage to provide quite a few spoilers.


11 May 2006
DA VINCI CODE'S A CRACKER
JOHN HISCOCK IN L.A. IS FIRST TO SEE DA VINCI FILM. HIS VERDICT..

IT HAS been at the centre of months of fevered anticipation, condemnation and worldwide debate.

But at last the veil of secrecy shrouding the movie based on author Dan Brown's best-seller The Da Vinci Code has been lifted.

The Mirror has been given an exclusive first look at the religious suspense thriller. And I can report that it Is destined to become a huge hit when it is released next week.

Although some special effects and Hans Zimmer's musical score had still to be added when I saw it, the movie races along at breakneck pace.

In the dramatic opening scenes, a terrified Louvre curator runs through the museum's dark galleries, pursued by a homicidal albino monk, Silas, chillingly played by Paul Bettany.

Director Ron Howard graphically depicts the curator's dying moments as, with bloodstained hands, he feebly struggles to leave the clues that draw Tom Hanks's character Robert Langdon into the murder mystery.

Hanks, with long hair swept back, ideally suits the role of the unsuspecting college lecturer drawn into a murderous conspiracy - while Bettany will give audiences nightmares as the limping, murderous monk.

He has some particularly grisly scenes in which, stripped naked and bleeding profusely from self-inflicted wounds, he viciously whips himself while wearing a pain-inducing barbed strap on his thigh, muttering: "I chastise my body."

ALTHOUGH the film closely follows Brown's storyline, Howard delivers something the book doesn't.

He goes back in time to show Brown's controversial theory that, for 2,000 years, the Catholic church has been covering up the fact that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and fathered a daughter, whose bloodline has survived into present-day Europe.

As well as scenes of the Inquisition and of women being tortured, burned and drowned, Howard shows Mary fleeing the Holy Land for France and giving birth there.

Action fans will revel in a hair-raising car chase in which Langdon's French cryptographer friend Sophie Neveu, fetchingly played by Audrey Tautou, careers her little Smart car backwards along the streets and pavements of Paris with the police, led by Jean Reno's Bezu Fache, in hot pursuit.

Surprisingly, Hanks is the only American in the large cast, which features Sir Ian McKellen in a strong supporting role as the manic Holy Grail historian Sir Leigh Teabing. In a gripping scene set at his mansion in the French countryside he reveals the secrets of Leonardo Da Vinci's famous painting The Last Supper.

Then he explains what he describes as "the greatest cover-up in human history" to an incredulous Sophie, while Langdon expounds on the meaning of certain historical and religious symbols.

But his lecture is cut short in a stunning and unexpected fashion.

The trio, taking with them a bound Silas, travel by private plane to London, where more clues add to the mystery and Silas stages a final assassination involving Bishop Aringarosa, strongly played by Alfred Molina.

Set mainly at night, the film has a sinister look which adds to the brooding atmosphere of suspense and conspiracy.

The film-makers were refused permission to shoot in Westminster Abbey because the novel was deemed "theologically unsound" by Abbey officials.

But Lincoln and Winchester cathedrals co-operated, as did the Temple Church in London and Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland.

FRANCE'S President Jacques Chirac gave his personal stamp of approval to the Louvre being used as a location.

But the Mona Lisa, which plays a key role in the story's opening, was ruled off-limits and a replica had to be used. With the film due to have its premiere at the Cannes Film Festival, the controversy surrounding the story continues to grow.

A Papal official, Archbishop Angelo Amato, last week denounced the book as "stridently anti-Christian" and called for a boycott of the film.

The Catholic organisation Opus Dei and the Catholic League have also protested and unsuccessfully petitioned for changes to the movie. Even an albino rights group has added its voice to the clamour.

But Sony Pictures and Howard have resisted all attempts to change the plot or to screen a disclaimer over the credits, and rightly so.

As it is, the film stands as a superb thriller which cleverly blends action and intrigue with some thought-provoking theories.

If anything, Howard has improved on the book by some judicious pruning and by going back into history to depict scenes that the novel referred to only briefly.

There is no mystery about The Da Vinci Code's future at the box office.

It will be a massive hit.

The Da Vinci Code is released on May 19.

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This morning CNN had a special report about the Cannes critics stampeding out of the theatre to write the most scathing, most negative review. Well, what do you expect when you ask Forrest Gump to fill in for Indiana Jones and you put Opie - a director who has already given real history a severe thrashing in "A Beautiful Mind" - at the helm? "Citizen Kane"?

ScandalUMD 05-17-06 07:46 AM

Considering the negativity of the early word on this, we're looking at a great test of whether a bad movie can be bulletproof at the box office.

I think the studios are hoping for a hit in the $350-$400m range here, and I don't think a movie can be as bad as this is rumored to be and still hit that kind of number. That said, I think this could be a kind of cosmic, unprecedented awful and still break $200m.

Zodiac_Speaking 05-17-06 07:56 AM

This will be a big hit for sure, but not a $250-$400 mil like the above post suggested, I'm guessing near $200 mil but not eclipsing. There seems to be a lot of people talking about this, not just here on the internet, but I've noticed a lot of average movie goers talking about it, so hype's there.

Good God, if this and X3 under-perform, what a summer! Maybe studios will focus more on creating a great movie, instead of locking a release date and rushing things...not.

baracine 05-17-06 08:26 AM

Other CNN "first impressions" from preview attendees:

        Geofferson 05-17-06 08:34 AM

        Yikes -- I didn't expect to hear these early reports. Will be interesting to see its box office take given these negative reviews.

        Jaymole 05-17-06 08:41 AM

        I've read 4 reviews so far, all of them negative.

        I'm not a fan of Howard or Goldsman, so my anticipation for this film was somewhat muted, but I was still going to check the film out...now I'm not so sure.

        Josh H 05-17-06 09:04 AM

        I liked the book and like Howard and Hanks, so I'll catch this for sure and judge it for myself.

        RayChuang 05-17-06 09:11 AM

        This type of bad publicity could mean that Dreamworks' Over the Hedge (also starting this weekend) could challenge The di Vinci Code for #1 box office revenues.

        I think this could mean X-Men: The Last Stand could truly become the first big blockbuster this summer in terms of box office revenues.

        Mr. Cinema 05-17-06 09:17 AM

        I don't think X-Men 3 will get kind reviews either. It's probably had more bad buzz than any other film coming out this year. It'll open huge on Memorial Day weekend, but I don't think it'll be a huge it.

        The Break-up and the Omen follow X3 and then Cars drops on June 9. Those will put dents in its earnings.

        baracine 05-17-06 09:20 AM


        Originally Posted by RayChuang
        This type of bad publicity could mean that Dreamworks' Over the Hedge (also starting this weekend) could challenge The di Vinci Code for #1 box office revenues.

        I really, really like the Over The Hedge previews, but seriously, folks...

        marty888 05-17-06 09:34 AM


        Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
        I liked the book and like Howard and Hanks, so I'll catch this for sure and judge it for myself.


        Same here. It appears that some of the negativity has more to do with the basic concept, rather than the realization on film. Since the imaginative (some would say outlandish) plotting didn't seem to hinder the book sales .....


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