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Originally Posted by Peep
Why didn't you just ask them? I spent a while talking about the movie with my friends after we saw it. Most of us, including myself, hadn't read the book and none of us were confused by the story.
I don't agree with people who say that the movie followed the book quite closely. Maybe in vague terms it did, and in general it did....but a lot of IMPORTANT elements were left out. In addition to some things already mentioned by other posters, the beginning and ending are different from the book as well. Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by immortal_zeus
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I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I for one thought Tom Hanks was terribly miscast...
what actor springs to mind who would have played Robert Langdon better? |
Originally Posted by Giles
I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I for one thought Tom Hanks was terribly miscast...
what actor springs to mind who would have played Robert Langdon better? |
Easy: Clint Howard.
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Originally Posted by Giles
I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I for one thought Tom Hanks was terribly miscast...
what actor springs to mind who would have played Robert Langdon better? |
Originally Posted by kcbrett5
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Originally Posted by Giles
what actor springs to mind who would have played Robert Langdon better?
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Russel Crowe.
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Speaking of Clint Howard, where was he?
Methinks he would've been perfect as one of the Inquisitors in one of Langdon's flashback stories. |
Lecture in the morning, book singing at night...lots of time in between, hopefully all your minds are at rest.
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Originally Posted by clemente
Lecture in the morning, book singing at night...lots of time in between, hopefully all your minds are at rest.
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Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Speaking of Clint Howard, where was he?
Methinks he would've been perfect as one of the Inquisitors in one of Langdon's flashback stories. I was almost distracted through out the entire movie trying to spot him in there somewhere. I didn't see him, though. I really enjoyed the movie and felt totally satisfied afterwards. I only wish that Silas was more menacing, as he was in my mind when I was reading the book. |
The Da Vinci Code - 3.5/5
Not a bad film by any means - extremely well made and designed. :) The 1st hour/hour and a half moves along at a frantic pace and is very exciting, (some things in the book are missing in the film, though in general the film is very close to the book) - however the concluding parts (when the action moves to London) are less compelling and the pace slows right down. Jean Reno is very good, seeming very like Fache in the book, and I also liked Ian McKellen who can play eccentrics very well! ;) Paul Bettany does suprisingly well as the creepy Albino monk Silas, a fanatical member of Opus Dei. The scene where he flagilates himself is a bit nasty! :eek: However, crucially faults lie with the main characters. Tom Hanks and Audrey Tatou (thankfully lacking Ruth Kelly haircut) aren't "bad" as such, but they look uncomfortable and lack any real chemistry with each other. Hanks was miscast IMO. I imagined Langdon as someone younger. Even though the film is obviously fiction, it doesnt stop Hanks delivering a little speech at the end to calm down the Christian Right. |
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Originally Posted by baracine
That part of the explanation doesn't make sense anymore if Langdon's actions have been public knowledge all night, i.e. the lecture and the book signing.
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Originally Posted by baracine
Did anybody else notice the signs in the Louvre pointing to the "Monna Lisa" with two "n"'s? :D
It turns out "Mona" is the old Italian abbreviation of "Madonna", which means "Mrs.", and that since the modern abbreviation of "Madonna" is "Monna", the Italian-language signs at the Louvre now point to the "Monna Lisa". (See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa ) Ron Howard, though, is still a clown. |
Maybe they should have called it The McDaVinci Code...:D
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Originally Posted by immortal_zeus
Exactly. Like I said earlier, he's already got an alibi.
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I'm amused at the accusation of a hugely popular (airport-quality... this ain't high literature) book that got its success primarily due to midwestern America being dumbed down for midwestern America for the movie adaptation. Especially when said movie was riding the controversy bandwagon all the way to the bank.
Isn't it much more likely that the (already accused of being overly talky) movie had some parts removed or consolidated due to length, or Akiva just generally being a hack? I really can't see anybody in the chain of command for this film trying their damndest to make sure it doesn't offend anyone. |
Hey,
Unfortunately I havent read ALL of the book yet, doh! :( Paul Bettany was good, somehow less menacing than I thought he'd be. Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by grim_tales
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Originally Posted by Mad Dawg
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Originally Posted by sethsez
I'm amused at the accusation of a hugely popular (airport-quality... this ain't high literature) book that got its success primarily due to midwestern America being dumbed down for midwestern America for the movie adaptation. Especially when said movie was riding the controversy bandwagon all the way to the bank.
Isn't it much more likely that the (already accused of being overly talky) movie had some parts removed or consolidated due to length, or Akiva just generally being a hack? I really can't see anybody in the chain of command for this film trying their damndest to make sure it doesn't offend anyone. |
I guess you'll be happy to hear that Akiva has been given the greenlight to start adapting Angels and Demons, then .... ;)
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Originally Posted by silentbob007
I guess you'll be happy to hear that Akiva has been given the greenlight to start adapting Angels and Demons, then .... ;)
http://www.allempires.com/forum/uplo..._text__123.JPG Either way, he's a shoe-in for another Oscar ("More than a billion tickets sold"): http://img241.echo.cx/img241/6264/oscars7lc.jpg Then he can go on to tackle the really BIG historical... http://img9.echo.cx/img9/7577/mcviet4tr.png http://img222.echo.cx/img222/7497/iwojima6tl.png http://www.allempires.com/forum/uplo..._fig199nba.jpg http://www.allempires.com/forum/uplo...torcade_21.JPG ... or even religious subjects: http://home.planet.nl/~klomp490/CreatorRonald.JPG |
What's with the whole, 'Ron Howard is a clown'?
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Originally Posted by thematahara
What's with the whole, 'Ron Howard is a clown'?
I happen to believe that Ron Howard, Tom Hanks and "Da Vinci"'s screenwriter are clowns. I am also going for a metaphor here: Ron Howard's films are to good movies what McDonald's menu is to nutritious food: a poor imitation offered at popular prices. |
Well I can understand not liking some of their movies, but to call Hanks and Howards clowns, is a little harsh. They are two of the most successful people in Hollywood, and I can think of few others who have enjoyed such long term success throughout their careers. Dont really see how they could be considered clowns. Uwe Boll and Freddy Prince Jr, sure, but Hanks and Howard?
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Originally Posted by thematahara
Well I can understand not liking some of their movies, but to call Hanks and Howards clowns, is a little harsh. They are two of the most successful people in Hollywood, and I can think of few others who have enjoyed such long term success throughout their careers. Dont really see how they could be considered clowns. Uwe Boll and Freddy Prince Jr, sure, but Hanks and Howard?
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Originally Posted by grim_tales
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Originally Posted by baracine
Maybe you should go back a few pages (like six or seven) and follow the discussion...
I happen to believe that Ron Howard, Tom Hanks and "Da Vinci"'s screenwriter are clowns. I am also going for a metaphor here: Ron Howard's films are to good movies what McDonald's menu is to nutritious food: a poor imitation offered at popular prices. Guess it'd be funnier if it were true. |
I think a lot of the positive reaction to this movie is due to the fact that everyone's expectations were significantly lowered by the early reviews which were, yes, too negative.
Think about the movie you actually saw, people. It's about as average, uninspired, and dull as anything I've ever experienced on the big screen. Has a thriller/chase movie ever been less exciting? I can't fathom the idea of sitting through it more than maybe twice. And only twice because Ian McKellen manages to inject a little bit of life into it when he's on screen. Even though I wasn't a big fan of the book because of the awful writing style, I still found it a quick and exciting read because of the strong forward momentum of the plot. The movie doesn't even have that, and throws in even more laughable lapses of logic. Imagine what a good director with an actual imagination, with a desire to make it genuinely dark, thrilling, and controversial instead of merely pleasant and watchable to as large a crowd as possible, could have mined out of this material. I think the McDonald's comparisons are very apt, myself. |
Originally Posted by MoviePage
I think a lot of the positive reaction to this movie is due to the fact that everyone's expectations were significantly lowered by the early reviews which were, yes, too negative.
Think about the movie you actually saw, people. It's about as average, uninspired, and dull as anything I've ever experienced on the big screen. Has a thriller/chase movie ever been less exciting? I can't fathom the idea of sitting through it more than maybe twice. And only twice because Ian McKellen manages to inject a little bit of life into it when he's on screen. Even though I wasn't a big fan of the book because of the awful writing style, I still found it a quick and exciting read because of the strong forward momentum of the plot. The movie doesn't even have that, and throws in even more laughable lapses of logic. Imagine what a good director with an actual imagination, with a desire to make it genuinely dark, thrilling, and controversial instead of merely pleasant and watchable to as large a crowd as possible, could have mined out of this material. I think the McDonald's comparisons are very apt, myself. I have to agree with, for a thriller - this was so by the book (pun not intended), and as you aptly put it: dull. I have to admit I nodded off just once. |
There's probably more venom being spewed in this thread than ... than ... well, than you'd get from 400 snakes on a plane, for example.
Wholesale denigration of anyone connected with this movie really gets tiresome. You don't like the movie? Fine, share your opinion and then move on. Go rent <i>Gigli</i> or <i>Pluto Nash</i>. I saw this yesterday afternoon and found it a very decent screen version of the book. I was never bored, thought the cast was never less than good, and overall was satisfied. Is it a <i>great</i> movie? Not at all, but it surely is not the stinker as some have described (and actually were hoping for in several postings). |
I didn't really picture Tom Hanks either.
I pictured Robert Langdon to be more like Lance Henriksen from Millennium. Random, I know. I've hardly watched that show at all. But he definitely seemed to fit more... |
Originally Posted by marty888
There's probably more venom being spewed in this thread than ... than ... well, than you'd get from 400 snakes on a plane, for example.
Wholesale denigration of anyone connected with this movie really gets tiresome. You don't like the movie? Fine, share your opinion and then move on. Go rent <i>Gigli</i> or <i>Pluto Nash</i>. I saw this yesterday afternoon and found it a very decent screen version of the book. I was never bored, thought the cast was never less than good, and overall was satisfied. Is it a <i>great</i> movie? Not at all, but it surely is not the stinker as some have described (and actually were hoping for in several postings). As for Ron Howard, the fact that he made a bad film is not only a disappointment to the readers who were looking forward to a good adaptation of a favourite book, it is also disastrous for the movie industry. If ever Hollywood had a chance to redeem itself after a drought period, it was now. And this catastrophe, like the bursting of the New Orleans levies, was preventable and was foretold a long time ago. Remember a thread called Ron Howard (?!) to direct "The Da Vinci Code" (2005") way back in February 2004? I was created by yours truly and started like this: Ye Gods!!! This information comes from the Internet Movie Database, with an estimated release date of May 2005. I would have pictured Roman Polanski directing Dan Brown's best-selling novel of theological intrigue and making it both entertaining and hauntingly mysterious. I'm afraid that Ron Howard's poor record in the handling of sensitive, adult material (viz. A Beautiful Mind, Oscar notwithstanding) means this story will be rewritten as an industrial spying caper set in Disneyland - or perhaps as a musical with dancing nuns - or both. What do you think? |
Originally Posted by baracine
I think what you are saying is: If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. It that were true, there'd be a whole lot of movie reviewers on welfare and there wouldn't be dvdtalk.com forums at all.
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Originally Posted by baracine
I think what you are saying is: If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. It that were true, there'd be a whole lot of movie reviewers on welfare and there wouldn't be dvdtalk.com forums at all.
Please do not misrepresent what I said. To refresh your memory: <i>"<u>You don't like the movie? Fine, share your opinion</u> and then move on.</i>" How exactly does that become "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" ? |
Originally Posted by FinkPish
No, I think his point was, you got your digs in so just give it a rest. You keep coming back with clown pictures to hammer your point home over and over. We all know how you feel; no need to punish us with it.
Negative opinions are certainly welcome, but the same ones over and over get old (same thing if someone is repeatedly posting a postive opinion over and over). Plus I don't get why someone that disliked a movie would waste more of their time posting about it repeatedly on the internet. I see a movie I didn't like, I already wasted 2 hours of my time. I'll post a brief review saying why I didn't like it, and then move on and not even click on the thread again most of the time. No point in wasting more of my time posting the same crap over and over about a movie I didn't like. |
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