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Don't forget the political zealots for F 9/11... gotta be fair at least.

I wasn't aware of what the movie was like at that time and I didn't have the full information as to how it was being approached. Plus, the reviews did play a part. Basically, I was afraid they were taking a Hollywood approach and after seeing that they weren't and didn't, changed my mind.

Fair enough - theaters can't change the rating, but they are free to ignore the ratings, as you said. Sounds like some theater owner isn't a Bushite...

Republicans in the entertainment industry? Surely, you jest. ;)

In all fairness, I haven't seen a theater in Vegas enforce an R-rated film in years. The last time I remember getting carded was with 2003's Matrix Revolutions. Christ, I didn't even get carded at Inside Deep Throat which was rated NC-17.

I held out until the end, but when the plane started spiraling down and you knew it was over, I cried a few tears. The walk out of the theater was like a funeral procession, everyone filing out slowly and no one saying anything. There really isn't anything to say after you see something like that.

I'd heartily agree with Joe Molotov. Very somber walking out of the theatre. I cried towards the end but also cheered inside during the "rush to the cockpit". This film grabbed so many emotions at the same time and pulled you in different directions just minutes and seconds apart.

I personally would say that this film paid honor to those lost. Honor to their human-ness, courage and determination. This is one powerful film.

My emotions ran the gamut while watching this film that places the viewer inside the frightful situations faced by various air traffic control rooms, NORAD, and United 93 on that one fateful day in 2001. Amongst the confusion that drives the narrative of the film, it never loses its dramatic tension, instead, with each minute that passes, the stakes grow higher and higher, and by the time the film ends, the viewing experience leaves you drained in so many ways.

The film is not easy to digest, and not for the casual movie-goer, but the horrific highjacking of United 93 and the passengers' response to their situation is nothing short of awe-inspiring in the face of the ultimate personal cost to each one onboard.

There's no point in rating this film, just know that the narrative is told expertly in cinematic terms, and the question of seeing it is totally a personal choice.

On the way home from seeing United 93 today, I was trying to remember the last film that so emotionally drained me and couldn't come up with one. I suppose "Saving Private Ryan" tried to elicit that sort of a response, but I was so repelled by that film that it didn't happen for me. "Passion of the Christ" was a snuff film that was even more repellent, so that didn't count either.

United 93 is a completely different movie-going experience. Those that have compared it to a roller coaster ride are half right. The first 40 minutes or so are that steep climb to the top, where you know what's about to happen and yet are never fully prepared for it. Once the air traffic controllers and NORAD start to realize what might be happening, you're in free-fall that doesn't end until the movie does. There are no ups and downs in this film. There's no release from it. There's not even one second of comic relief -- which generally happens at least once or twice in any film of this nature, just to let the audience relax for a moment. The story telling is relentless, almost from the first 2.35:1 frame.

One of the DVD Talk reviewers said that it was notable that the people of flight 93 were not attempting to take back the plane because they wanted to stop the destruction of any more buildings in Washington, but moreso doing it with the hope of seeing their families again. This is true, however, there is no sentimental crap in this film and it doesn't have a political spin. It's as fact-based as it can be without being either a documentary or the dreaded docu-drama. There is nothing in the screenplay that wants to pound you over the head with a "message" or a "lesson". There is also nothing that takes you out of the experience; nothing to remind you that you're watching a film. There are no movie stars and there are no obvious special effects. Yet, somehow, it is a purely cinematic experience. To compare this film to A&Es "Flight 93" is not only unfair, it's apples and oranges. There's NO comparison.

As far as the R rating, I think the MPAA were being a bit over-sensitive to the subject matter, erring on the side of caution. Other than a bit of language -- acceptable under the circumstances, there is no other reason I saw to give it an R, other than caution on the part of the MPAA. Make no mistake, there are scenes of "intense terror and violence", but nothing approaching the violence of "Passion" or "Private Ryan". For me, "United 93" is somewhere between PG-13 and R, but closer to PG-13.

As others have said here, the audience was completely silent exiting the theatre and for a Saturday afternoon, there were surprisingly few people to see it -- maybe one third to half full -- actually, maybe not so surprising, considering the subject. I would see it again just to catch things that I missed. There are parts that are so frenetic, it's hard to comprehend what you're seeing and I will definitely own the DVD. It's, of course, a purely personal choice to see it or not, as Patman said, but I would definitely recommend it.

I recoginized one of the "unknown" actors in United 93, went over to IMDB to see if I could figure out where I'd seen him before....holy crap!!

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I realize the message boards on that site are retarded, but this really takes the cake.

They apparently had to shutdown the "user rating" portion due to people being stupid.

it was a decent movie, more so because i really liek paul greengrass. i'm not as emotional as the majority so it didn't effect me at all, but greengrass did a great job with the story.

However, Fahrenheit 9/11 only made US$119 million. Passion of the Christ made US$370 million, only exceeded by Shrek 2 and Spider-Man 2 in 2004. :up:

The ones I recognized in this film were Christian Clemenson and Rebecca Schull (Faye from the TV show Wings).

Also took me while but I believe it was Corey Johnson (played in Hellboy and Band of Brothers) as one of the passengers.


I really enjoyed this film with no big name stars. Excellent choice to do it this way.

Geez, I think there are more tin foil hats than normal folks over at the Unviversal Pics forum. How sad.

http://www.universalpictures.com/for...wforum.php?f=1

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I believe people should see the film, but I can't in good conscience "recommend" it. It's a masterpiece, and a devastating experience...one in which the entire audience is forced to share, which is a devastating experience in its own right.

The film needs to be seen in the theater.

Amazing. It should be called the Alex Jones forum. :lol:

I mistakenly posted some replies. It's almost impossible doing battle with 10 trolls at once.

Went and saw the movie this afternoon. Definitely thought it was well done. Beforehand I thought I'd lose it, but instead of sadness I just felt anger. The anger I felt on 9-11.

For those of you who are interested in seeing A&E's telling of the story, Flight 93 will be airing again this evening.

They've been playing it this afternoon and I tried watching it with United 93 still fresh in my memory.

I had to shut it off when the terrorists began hijacking the plane within the first half hour. Not because it's bringing upon the emotions that United 93 did, just because it's a terrible piece of shit.

Great film.

I recognized Chip Zien - the guy in the blue shirt sitting on the right hand side near the back of first class (one row in front of one of the hijackers) who got stabbed right at the start of the hijacking. We were in the same class in high school. He was also the voice of Howard the Duck.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0956268/

What a stomach-turner. And a first class effort all the way around.

****1/2 out of five.

One of the few times I was taken out of the movie (had some issues with the use of music during the first half) was when I noticed that one of the passengers was the ticket counter worker in Wings.

I watched too much tv as kid.

Just got back from seeing this, with a disgustingly sparse crowd, and aside from not yet really knowing what to say, I did want to echo these sentiments. I want to tell everybody to go see it, but realise that it is not for many people. As importantly I can not stress enough the need to see this in a theater.

I thought it was a decent movie, not one that I'd watch over and over again, it was pretty heavy.

To be honest I thought it was made too early, there has to be some closer for a movie like this - maybe after Bin Laden is eventually captured.

Just got home from a 10:10 screening on a Sunday night and the theater was about 1/2 to 2/3 sold, but it was completely silent for 2 hours, I've never experienced anything like that before. Incredible story, that's pretty much all I've got.

I understand that the IMDb pages are user-supported, but I think it's a poor show to label the film "fantasy". There's better ways to make a point, mr. mystery.

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