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Originally Posted by toddly6666
Yes, those are stupid fictional hollywood movies, but United 93 is still a hollywood film. United 93 is a hollywood movie in the same realm of Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Schindler's List. What's the difference? United 93 is a film based on real events, but not on fact. The only factual content in that movie is the airport employees. The events happening in the airplane itself is all Hollywood, created from some minor info such as calls from the plane and plane crashing in the middle of nowhere. It could be true but maybe not. United 93 is at the level of Munich, not at the level of One Day In September. Just because the movie is filmed in a documentary style, it doesn't make it a factual documentary...
Still pretty good and intense movie. Is is fact that there was an actual small plane pilot in coach? That was very hollywood - making it seem like that this small plane pilot is going to save the day when the terrorists get taken out...It's basically a good Hollywood screenplay created from bits and pieces of info.. (In the 1960s, Garcia was in the Air National Guard. He began learning to fly, but switched his study to become an air traffic controller and never attained his pilot's license.) http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...arciabiop8.asp 2. Passenger: Donald F. Greene (Eager and inquisitive, Greene took little bites of many things. He learned to love the opera, to sail, to ski black diamond trails, to fly at age 14. The same discipline that tempered his desire could be seen in his meticulous pre-flight examination of the planes he piloted. The event was held in an airplane hangar, with small planes parked in a semicircle to create an intimate space. They were one short, so Greene's stepmother, a museum president, asked him to fly in the final plane as a favor.) http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...reenebiop8.asp |
DVDKING,
I totally agree with you...There are many people that take pleasure in watching other people suffer, even if it makes us cry, because we may be in a mood to watch a sad movie to have good cry, or watch a horror movie to have a good scare, or watch a comedy to have a good laugh. It's not out of reasons that "i'm a caring human being and I feel like I have to show empathy and feel their pain." - it's about watching a movie to achieve some type of emotional response, because so many movies suck, are generic, and cause no emotional response. This is why horror movies have been on fire for the past 5 years, because they have been consistently giving what the audience wants - some interactive audience scares and then all laughing together after getting scared. I watched UNITED 93 because I felt bad for the passengers, but I also wanted to watch the movie to see a good terrorist movie - because I love terrorist movies. The most entertaining movie villains in films are terrorists and nazis. And I wanted to see it because it was R-rated violent and thankfully not PG-13 violent. As sad as 9/11 was, the terrorists' overall teamwork and follow through with a strategic plan was amazing and impressive. So another reason I watched UNITED 93 was just to get a little taste of how well organized the terrorists were with each consequential plane crash. It's sad yes, but it's also very impressive. But most people won't admit that the terrorists had some excellent planning and teamwork. And concerning "Hollywood," Hollywood may not represent reality, but reality has become hollywood. Normal people act like their in hollywood everyday, in normal life and in heroic or tragic times. But that's sort of another topic, which has to do with the way people act in society today...(especially Americans) |
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Originally Posted by toddly6666
United 93 is a hollywood movie in the same realm of Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Schindler's List. What's the difference? United 93 is a film based on real events, but not on fact.
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Originally Posted by DVD King
Why would somebody want to see films like this is the question-- to pay tribute? How is that, a filmmaker is manipulative no matter what, there's no way not to be, and he is using his own guesswork to investigate the situation. Since that's the case you're paying tribute to him instead of the people on that flight. Any other reason to see it? The only answer is that people don't want to admit that they like to relish in other people's misery. It's amazing how many excuses can fall under the guise of showing concern. One movie started the chain, now the flood gates are open and everyone's joining in. Bring on the 2-disk limited edition-- way to bring an event like that down to the consumer level.
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Originally Posted by slop101
Oh, and Jeffrey Wells wrote a really good article on the movie - if this doesn't make you want to see it, I don't know what will....
Is Paul Greengrass's United 93 (Universal, 4.28) a knockout, a time-stopper, a mind-blower? It sure as hell is. You're probably going to need to stand outside the theatre for a few minutes after it's over and just chill...trust me. And then you're going to want a drink, even if you don't drink. And then talk it out with friends for an hour or so. See it with some. Don't go alone. Is feeling power-drilled all over again by one of the worst real-life nightmares of all time a good thing? To me, it is. It happened, it's real, and this film knocks your socks off because it takes you right back to that surreal morning and that feeling, that almost-afraid-to-breathe feeling, and to me, that's partly what good films do -- they lift you out of your realm and make you forget about everything but what's on-screen. All I know is that I was watching and taking it all in, and that the old feelings started to build and churn around and then pour back in, like a damburst. The chills and forebodings of doom were back, and this time with a closer, more comprehensive perspective. United 93 didn't make me "happy" but I relished it. I'm not a baby or a coward. I'm not a "too-sooner." Show me anything that smacks of honesty and hard truth or at least skillful manipulations of same, and I'm there for firsts, seconds and thirds. Time's Richard Corliss called it "unbearable and unmissable." Mainly the latter, I'd say. As long as it's not a cheap-ass horror film, I eat "unbearable" for breakfast. Not one frame of this film struck me as distasteful or exploitative. It shows what needs to be shown with as much restraint as could be managed without changing the known facts. We were told at the screening that the print shown wasn't quite finished. It looked pretty finished to me. No obviously raw effects, nothing that screamed out, "Oops ...sorry!" What surprised me is that two-thirds of United 93 don't have a whole lot to do with United #93. They're about what happened as air traffic controllers, the FAA and the military tried to monitor what was happening with American Airlines #11, United #193 and American #77 (i.e., the flights that slammed into the North Tower, the South Tower and the Pentagon, respectively). It's about how a lot of focused dec- ent professionals tried to keep up with the horror and couldn't. United 93 runs about an hour and 45 minutes. It's about 30 minutes before Flight 93 takes off, but you're not really paying that much attention, frankly, to those doomed souls on the plane...not at first. It's the confused folks in the control rooms who pull you in. The second plane hits about 45 minutes in, give or take, and it's another 15 minutes -- a full hour -- before the hijackers, who've waited and eyeball- ed each other from their first-class seats and stalled, it seems to me, like nervous nellies, before finally making their move. For me, that opening hour is classic. Greengrass has never done anything quite as good. The tension and verisimilitude surpasses his work in Bloody Sunday, and that's saying something. Each and every bit actor, every line...every last piece of it screws you to your seat. Those guys playing air-traffic controllers are perfect. Remember the tension in that air-traffic controller scene in the opening moments of Close Encounters of the Third Kind? It's that tripled or quadrupled. Ben Sliney, a gray-haired office mana- ger type who was having his first day on 9/11 as national operations manager for the FAA, plays himself. Nobody, really, seems to be "acting" in this. Every bit player rules in every control-room scene in this film. What's so affecting is that you know what's coming, and Greengrass just lets it come...tick, tock, tick. There's a spellbinding moment when it all starts...when a 40ish Boston air traffic controller first realizes that American #11 is off-course and not communicating. The moment isn't especially heightened or emphasized. It's just this guy going, "Okay...something's off here" Once the hijacking on United #93 begins and the killings and screamings and all the rest of that sad melodrama kicks in, then it's a bit more familiar, especially if you're up on what's known to have happened and if you saw A&E's Flight 93 movie last January. That was an okay film. I didn't like the family members crying and saying "I love you" to their loved ones who were calling from the plane (which felt almost icky to me), but it was all right. And yet United 93, no offense, is about two and a half to three times better. I saw it at the first non-Time magazine press screening on Tuesday night in Santa Monica, and a woman sitting two seats away got up twice, and it's measure of how caught up I was that I was vaguely irritated when she left the second time. How many times does this woman need to take a leak? I wondered. Or is she leaving the room to give herself a break from the tension? Either way, I was vaguely irked. (Why should I care, right? It was her business. But I didn't want any nearby move- ment.) The remarkable accomplishent, for me, is that I felt no sense of time while watch- ing United 93. It lasts about 105 minutes, and it could have been 40 or 50 minutes. I didn't care, didn't think about it. The damn thing held me, vise-gripped me. Did I have a good time? Definitely, by my standards. I haven't sat through a pulse-poun- der like this in months, and I can't wait to see it again. Cheyenne Jackson, who plays Mark Bingham, the gay guy who died on United #93, was one of those at last night's screening. I spoke to him briefly, told him it's a hell of a film. He seemed kind of choked up and needed some alone time. Chris- tian Clemenson, who plays Thomas Burnett, was also there, but he was gone in a flash as soon as the credits started rolling. One tiny beef: The last piece of copy on the black screen says that after 9/11, "America's war on terror had begun." The implied statement, of course, is, "And it continues today!" That it does, but if anyone thinks that what's happening in Iraq right now (and what may even happen with Iran...who knows?) is a blow against terror they're very much mistaken, and that final line struck me as a bit of a rah-rah statement. I think Greengrass should have just let what happened in the film (as he chose to dramatize it) stand on its own and leave well enough alone. I was just blown away by a paragraph in this persons review of this movie. "United 93 didn't make me "happy" but I relished it. I'm not a baby or a coward. I'm not a "too-sooner." Show me anything that smacks of honesty and hard truth or at least skillful manipulations of same, and I'm there for firsts, seconds and thirds. " Show me anything that has been shown to us by the major media outlets or major hollywood movie outlets, that does just this, smacks of hard honest truth, and I will have a heart attack and drop dead on the spot. PS... |
Movie City News has compiled 164 top ten lists and used that to give an overall ranking of films. #1 is United 93. Let's hope enough Academy voters actually watch the film and recognize it as one of the 5 Best Picture nominees.
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I just watched this the other day on Cinemax. Previously, I had United 93 on my dvr, but I never could get in the right mind set to watch it. After many weeks, I deleted it off the dvr. For whatever reason, I forced myself to watch it finally. The film really began for me when the air traffic controllers realized that the first plane had been hijacked. I got this feeling in my gut that I've not felt since 9/11. Everything goes completely downhill from there, not in movie quality but in hope. A little later, the controllers put on CNN for footage of the fire from the first plane that they thought was just a small pedestrian plane. More and more you are sucked back into September 11, 2001, a day that we all would like to forget because of the horror, but something we should never forget. Now they show the footage of the second plane going through the towers, and from then on throughout the rest of the movie, I'm full of tears and a thousand emotions. Sometimes I'm angry, sometimes I'm sad, sometimes I have emotions that I don't know how to describe with words. When the passengers started to attack and kill the man with the fake bomb, I was fucking punching at the air in front of me, with tears in my eyes, imagining that I was killing the piece of shit religious terrorists. I don't know what it is in us that thinks that the passengers will somehow gain control of the plane and land safely, even though we know the outcome. When we finally see the plane go towards the ground and then the cut to black, I had to check if I was still here, because I felt the movie sucked me into the plane.
After the movie, I thought about a lot of things. What would I have done? I'd like to think I would fight back, but sometimes I think I would freeze like Upham in Saving Private Ryan. It confirmed my belief that there is no god. What kind of God would allow something like 9/11 to happen? Certainly not one that I like if IT exists. I also became extremely angry the more and more that I thought about it. I was angry that Bin Liden is still alive out there somewhere. I was angry that we don't have all our resources in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia where a good margin of terrorist money comes from, not to mention the hijackers. I was angry at Bush for the already stated reasons for putting us in Iraq for whatever bullshit reason we want to believe. I was ultimately glad after watching United 93, because it made me remember what I felt that day that I've tried to forget for the last 7 years. No one should be forced to watch United 93, but I feel that everyone should watch it at some point so that we never, ever forget. |
Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
I just watched this the other day on Cinemax. Previously, I had United 93 on my dvr, but I never could get in the right mind set to watch it. After many weeks, I deleted it off the dvr. For whatever reason, I forced myself to watch it finally. The film really began for me when the air traffic controllers realized that the first plane had been hijacked. I got this feeling in my gut that I've not felt since 9/11. Everything goes completely downhill from there, not in movie quality but in hope. A little later, the controllers put on CNN for footage of the fire from the first plane that they thought was just a small pedestrian plane. More and more you are sucked back into September 11, 2001, a day that we all would like to forget because of the horror, but something we should never forget. Now they show the footage of the second plane going through the towers, and from then on throughout the rest of the movie, I'm full of tears and a thousand emotions. Sometimes I'm angry, sometimes I'm sad, sometimes I have emotions that I don't know how to describe with words. When the passengers started to attack and kill the man with the fake bomb, I was ------- punching at the air in front of me, with tears in my eyes, imagining that I was killing the piece of shit religious terrorists. I don't know what it is in us that thinks that the passengers will somehow gain control of the plane and land safely, even though we know the outcome. When we finally see the plane go towards the ground and then the cut to black, I had to check if I was still here, because I felt the movie sucked me into the plane.
After the movie, I thought about a lot of things. What would I have done? I'd like to think I would fight back, but sometimes I think I would freeze like Upham in Saving Private Ryan. It confirmed my belief that there is no god. What kind of God would allow something like 9/11 to happen? Certainly not one that I like if IT exists. I also became extremely angry the more and more that I thought about it. I was angry that Bin Liden is still alive out there somewhere. I was angry that we don't have all our resources in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia where a good margin of terrorist money comes from, not to mention the hijackers. I was angry at Bush for the already stated reasons for putting us in Iraq for whatever bullshit reason we want to believe. I was ultimately glad after watching United 93, because it made me remember what I felt that day that I've tried to forget for the last 7 years. No one should be forced to watch United 93, but I feel that everyone should watch it at some point so that we never, ever forget. |
Michael Ballack -
Were you a New Yorker? Or did you lose someone close to you in the attack? I don't mean any disrespect but you seem awfully attatched and affected (moreso than most) by it and I was just wondering why. -Doc |
Originally Posted by raven56706
what kind of God allows people the ability to kill, people to lie, people to do anything... hell we would have been dead or non existant if we felt his wrath.... there will always be two sides good and evil in this world.... but we are taught to learn from these things and better ourselves... hell we cant explain much in this world and we certainly will never understand..... unfortunately, we will never learn...
Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Michael Ballack -
Were you a New Yorker? Or did you lose someone close to you in the attack? I don't mean any disrespect but you seem awfully attatched and affected (moreso than most) by it and I was just wondering why. -Doc |
Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
Sorry, the old "he works in mysterious ways" bullshit doesn't work with me, if in fact god does exist.
You have to be a New Yorker to feel strongly about what happened on 9/11? I know 9/11 affected families of the victims a lot more than people that had no connection to the people that died that day, but the day was ultimately the worst day in American history since Pearl Harbor. When you imagine the decisions people had to make i.e. jumping out of a burning building to their death, attacking scumbags and risk getting stabbed, how could you not be affected? I don't believe I'm more attached than anyone else. In fact, I question why you feel like 9/11 was no big whoop? That's more disturbing than someone who cares too strongly about what happened that day. No, it's just that you said you were in tears and were punching the air and whatnot. I thought it was a well made movie, I was moved by it. I'm more horrified, however, by what has happened since 9/11 and in the name of 9/11: Civil liberties treated with frivolity, wars launched on false pretenses and ulitmately the squandering of the immense wave of good will thrown our way by the world to the point where in 6 short years we've become one of the world's most reviled nations. I'd have an easier time dealing with the subject if it wasn't invoked every ten seconds by egomaniacal douchebags like Bush and Giuliani. For at least a year, it was a rallying call, a tragic reminder of loss and inspiration. Now it's just a watchword for policy-gone-bad that has been corrupted by every idiot with a microphone; So much so that I just want to throw things at the screen and say, "enough already with the F-ing 9/11!" everytime the date is mentioned. -Doc P.S. - Not for nothing, but I personally find the days surrounding Hurricane Katrina more horrifying and sad, being that the people who screwed us so badly weren't a small group of religious fundamentalists, but rather our own administration... or are they the same thing? |
Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
Sorry, the old "he works in mysterious ways" bullshit doesn't work with me, if in fact god does exist.
You have to be a New Yorker to feel strongly about what happened on 9/11? I know 9/11 affected families of the victims a lot more than people that had no connection to the people that died that day, but the day was ultimately the worst day in American history since Pearl Harbor. When you imagine the decisions people had to make i.e. jumping out of a burning building to their death, attacking scumbags and risk getting stabbed, how could you not be affected? I don't believe I'm more attached than anyone else. In fact, I question why you feel like 9/11 was no big whoop? That's more disturbing than someone who cares too strongly about what happened that day. hmmm bullshit... thats nice....i see what you are saying good people waiting to have kids but a doctor tells them they cant have kids, yet Britney spears has kids.... 9/11 did suck and was horrible but we dont live in a peaceful world... kids are dying from people who are trying to help them and from people who are so called trying to get rid of them(Iraq situation)..... imagine freaking daniel benoit who died when his father went crazy.... listen...it works in mysterious ways... its hard to fathom but it does.... imo.... but 9/11 was hard to bear and people who died for their god(a good who doesnt believe in killing people) were crazy and its something we have no control over.....we just have to never forget and make life move forward |
Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
No, it's just that you said you were in tears and were punching the air and whatnot. I thought it was a well made movie, I was moved by it. I'm more horrified, however, by what has happened since 9/11 and in the name of 9/11: Civil liberties treated with frivolity, wars launched on false pretenses and ulitmately the squandering of the immense wave of good will thrown our way by the world to the point where in 6 short years we've become one of the world's most reviled nations. I'd have an easier time dealing with the subject if it wasn't invoked every ten seconds by egomaniacal douchebags like Bush and Giuliani. For at least a year, it was a rallying call, a tragic reminder of loss and inspiration. Now it's just a watchword for policy-gone-bad that has been corrupted by every idiot with a microphone; So much so that I just want to throw things at the screen and say, "enough already with the F-ing 9/11!" everytime the date is mentioned.
-Doc P.S. - Not for nothing, but I personally find the days surrounding Hurricane Katrina more horrifying and sad, being that the people who screwed us so badly weren't a small group of religious fundamentalists, but rather our own administration... or are they the same thing? |
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
Which is exactly why 9-11 will be forgotten.
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
No, it's just that you said you were in tears and were punching the air and whatnot. I thought it was a well made movie, I was moved by it. I'm more horrified, however, by what has happened since 9/11 and in the name of 9/11: Civil liberties treated with frivolity, wars launched on false pretenses and ulitmately the squandering of the immense wave of good will thrown our way by the world to the point where in 6 short years we've become one of the world's most reviled nations. I'd have an easier time dealing with the subject if it wasn't invoked every ten seconds by egomaniacal douchebags like Bush and Giuliani. For at least a year, it was a rallying call, a tragic reminder of loss and inspiration. Now it's just a watchword for policy-gone-bad that has been corrupted by every idiot with a microphone; So much so that I just want to throw things at the screen and say, "enough already with the F-ing 9/11!" everytime the date is mentioned.
-Doc P.S. - Not for nothing, but I personally find the days surrounding Hurricane Katrina more horrifying and sad, being that the people who screwed us so badly weren't a small group of religious fundamentalists, but rather our own administration... or are they the same thing? You don't have to agree with the administation or like Bush, but just because you don't agree with what the administation has done since 9/11 doesn't mean that you shouldn't feel emotional, upset, angry and saddened by it. It was only 6 years ago. It's not ancient history and it still should be in people's minds. Unfortunately many people have already forgotten it. You hate Bush and think he screwed up everything...that's fine, but remember that he didn't cause 9/11. Also, the vast majority of the world rallied around him at the time. Maybe I shouldn't make assumptions but I'm going to assume that even you were extremely upset about 9/11 and also rallied behind our president at the time. Sure, he's made a lot of mistakes since then and has since turned many many people against him but why should you feel any different about the actual event now (6 years later) than you did when it occurred simply because you don't like some of the choices President Bush has made? |
Originally Posted by whoopdido
I get the impression that you're trying to belittle the impact of 9/11 simply because you don't like the current administation. Not cool man.
You don't have to agree with the administation or like Bush, but just because you don't agree with what the administation has done since 9/11 doesn't mean that you shouldn't feel emotional, upset, angry and saddened by it. It was only 6 years ago. It's not ancient history and it still should be in people's minds. Unfortunately many people have already forgotten it. You hate Bush and think he screwed up everything...that's fine, but remember that he didn't cause 9/11. Also, the vast majority of the world rallied around him at the time. Maybe I shouldn't make assumptions but I'm going to assume that even you were extremely upset about 9/11 and also rallied behind our president at the time. Sure, he's made a lot of mistakes since then and has since turned many many people against him but why should you feel any different about the actual event now (6 years later) than you did when it occurred simply because you don't like some of the choices President Bush has made? So while 9/11 is sad, and I was upset by it, (and I'm still saddened by it) it was six years ago. At this point we should be looking forward. Yet every time I see a republican with a microphone, I could play a drinking game with how many times they drop that date. Get the fuck over it, you whiney little pussy (this is directed at our current minority leader in congress who can't say the word "terrorists" without blubbering like a born-again-minister-caught-with-a-gay-prostitute, not at any of you). The reason I'm so tired of hearing about it is for the exact same reason I'm tired of seeing the yellow ribbons on the back of rich snobs' SUVs. It's been CO-OPTED. Thousands of people lost their lives for doing nothing more than going to work. They weren't involved in policy. They had no beef with the middle east. They probably couldn't point out Saudi Arabia on a map, much less point out where our tanks are or explain why they're pissing people off. This was not a partisan headquaters or policy shop. It was an office building. These were citizens who tragically lost their lives. And yet instead of mourning them and celebrating the freedoms and liberties they (albeit unwillingly) died for, we've taken that date and turned it into a "Remember the Alamo!"-like chant and used it for political objectives. Bush used it to increase his power and push his agendas including an unnecessary war with Iraq. Giuliani is using it to try and get elected. Neo Cons use it as fund-raising material at every grip-and-grin. It's been stolen and twisted and perverted to the point where I don't want to hear anything about it anymore. It's the little yellow ribbon syndrome. Those things came about as a result of the horrendous treatment our vets received when they returned from Vietnam. "Support Our Troops" even if you don't support the war. It was telling people that these poor bastards don't make policy. They're told where to go and who to fight. You can hate a war with every fiber of your being and find it morally reprehensible, but you still must treat our soldiers with dignity and respect. This campaign was a resounding success. Until it go co-opted and corrupted. Current group-think makes no distinction between a war and its sodliers, and to "support our troops" now literally means to support the war. They've made it so you can't criticize the war without criticizing the brave men and women fighting it, and that is WRONG. Especially when you consider that the moment these heroes lose their value on the battlefield (like, say, by losing a limb) they're shipped stateside and bunked in a rat-infested hospital with conditions we don't let prisoners live in. So in conclusion, turns out 9/11 did change everything. It turned us into a nation of cowards and pundits, one scaring the shit out of us to get what he wants, the other bending over and taking it happily. Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither." Which is good, considering we're giving up our civil liberties little by little and this war has served only to radicalize more young muslim men. We were the aggressors in the Alamo, we stole it. The people who attacked us were murderous bastards.... who HAD a few legitimate beefs. And yet we live under the dilusion that we are some sanctified empire that has done no wrong. We're doing wrong now, and we're doing it in the name of those people who were tragically slaughtered six years ago. So basically we did exactly what those butcherous bastards wanted us to. There's a great way to honor the dead. None of us will ever forget that day, where we were or how we were effected. So let's stop fucking talking about it all the time. Get over it. When will it be PC to say that? When Ken Burns makes a documentary about it? When Nick Cage makes a shitty movie about it? When they make a movie about the plane that DIDN'T hit anything? I may not be a proponent of this war OR a fan of Bush's, but no-F-ing wonder we're losing this war... America seems to have lost it's stomach, or maybe something slightly farther south. -Doc P.S. - I'm venting guys, this was in no way an attack on anyone here. |
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Saw this tonight on Blu and it was just as agonizing the second time. Recently I saw the traveling memorial at the Rochester museum. Parts of the airplanes, personal effects, law enforcement and fire dept equipment. Very somber and difficult to see. One of the spare uniforms of a stewardess who was supposed to be off that day but filled in for someone who called in sick/ A set of keys of a young lady who just got her first real job at Kantor Fitzgerald a couple weeks before the attack. Who would think your wallet would end up in a museum when all you did was go to work that day? A K-9 Jeep crushed by falling debri that killed the dog. Anyway, I wanted to see this again and get another take on it.
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This might have been covered earlier in the thread, but I always found this movie to be an interesting exercise in performance style. The passengers and terrorists in the film are portrayed by professional actors, while everyone else on the ground is played by a non-actor. What this does is make for a weird kind of authenticity: the people on the ground are bewildered not only because they were caught up in bizarre events but because they aren't very comfortable on camera. And the people on the plane, who project more strongly into the camera, are mythified.
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Re: United 93
Originally Posted by NIMH Rat
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This might have been covered earlier in the thread, but I always found this movie to be an interesting exercise in performance style. The passengers and terrorists in the film are portrayed by professional actors, while everyone else on the ground is played by a non-actor. What this does is make for a weird kind of authenticity: the people on the ground are bewildered not only because they were caught up in bizarre events but because they aren't very comfortable on camera. And the people on the plane, who project more strongly into the camera, are mythified.
Still, I don't know if I could watch the film as anything but that. It's just too depressing. I couldn't watch the extras again. The documentary where the actors go to survivors houses to learn about the people they would be portraying was more depressing than the movie. For everyone; If that memorial exhibition comes to your town, make a point to see it. Somber and even depressing, it brings the victims from that day up close and personal. Although we were all horrified to live through that day, we have to see what it was like for the other half that didn't. |
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I went to the 9/11 memorial in NYC. It was pretty moving and honored not just those that died in WTC but everyone that died that day.
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I own this and World Trade Center and I don't think I'll every have the desire to watch them.
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Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
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I own this and World Trade Center and I don't think I'll every have the desire to watch them.
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Originally Posted by TimeandTide
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Then why do you own them?
The final shot in this movie is a technical achievement. I know that it's not too complicated. But it's just a perfectly realized effect. |
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