Scorsese vs. Oscar
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Scorsese vs. Oscar
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Who else is due an Academy Award, and by that, I mean, who else has been shut out everytime time nominated OR is a great filmmaker yet to be nominated?
Murphy's Law says that the year that Scorsese has another shot at winning, he'll be up against someone who stated making films three weeks before he did, and thus, has contributed more to the film-making industry, akin to what happened to Tarantino losing to Zemeckis (Pulp Fiction losing out to Forrest Gump) back in '94, he did, after all, give us the classic, Back to The Future Part III.
Edit: I think the Academy is a bunch of bullshit anyway, but, Scorsese is one of my all-time favorites and deserving of the moniker of "Academy Award Winner".
Who else is due an Academy Award, and by that, I mean, who else has been shut out everytime time nominated OR is a great filmmaker yet to be nominated?
Murphy's Law says that the year that Scorsese has another shot at winning, he'll be up against someone who stated making films three weeks before he did, and thus, has contributed more to the film-making industry, akin to what happened to Tarantino losing to Zemeckis (Pulp Fiction losing out to Forrest Gump) back in '94, he did, after all, give us the classic, Back to The Future Part III.
Edit: I think the Academy is a bunch of bullshit anyway, but, Scorsese is one of my all-time favorites and deserving of the moniker of "Academy Award Winner".
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Just watch, the one he finally will win for will probably be the most commercial film (and probably weakest) he will have ever made. Or he will end up like Robert Altman this year; unappreciated until he is almost dead, and then slipped a Lifetime Achievement Oscar just in time.
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...so what's this thread about again? If it's about movies/people that deserved an Oscar for their work but didn't get one..
Movies: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards4.html#1
Actors: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards3.html#4
Actresses: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards3.html#5
Directors: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards3.html#6
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Movies: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards4.html#1
Actors: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards3.html#4
Actresses: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards3.html#5
Directors: http://www.filmsite.org/noawards3.html#6
-JP
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
Edit: I think the Academy is a bunch of bullshit anyway, but, Scorsese is one of my all-time favorites and deserving of the moniker of "Academy Award Winner".
At first sight, his newest movie, The Departed looks to be an early contender. If he wins I hope it's because he really deserves it and not because the Academy feels that they need to make it up to him.
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
Stupid 3-6 Mafia!!! Get it!! Three 6's....666....MOB.....
yada, yada, yada...
I think the Academy is a bunch of bullshit anyway, but, Scorsese is one of my all-time favorites and deserving of the moniker of "Academy Award Winner".
yada, yada, yada...
I think the Academy is a bunch of bullshit anyway, but, Scorsese is one of my all-time favorites and deserving of the moniker of "Academy Award Winner".
Do you think Scorsese should have an Oscar for Best Song on his shelf?
Why aren't you mad that Nick Park has four Oscars, and Scorsese has none?
Or that Martin McDonagh has an Oscar?
It would be great if Scorsese was an Academy Award winner for Best Director, and I don't consider the Oscars bullshit.
He should have two of them --for Raging Bull and Goodfellas, no questions asked.
And he probably should have a third for The Aviator, or Taxi Driver (for which he wasn't even nominated!!).
But at this point, I would rather never see him win a Best Director Oscar, than to see him win it for a lesser work just because people "feel sorry" for him.
Then people can talk about how Alfred Hitchcock and Martin Scorsese, arguably the two greatest directors in the history of the cinema, both never won an Oscar.
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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
Uwe Boll, Michael Bay and Kevin Smith also haven't won Oscars, so Scorsese is in good company.
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One current trend I notice about Scorsese films is that if he doesn't win the Oscar for whatever he's nominated for one year, then his next film will be released in December of whatever year it is released, regardless of how long it has been complete.
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I wonder has Scorsese ever won an Honorary Oscar? I think he might get one soon for his lifetime work in the movies.
I think many people are still surprised that Scorsese didn't win an Oscar for Best Director for Raging Bull and Goodfellas, both movies that are considered his best works.
I think many people are still surprised that Scorsese didn't win an Oscar for Best Director for Raging Bull and Goodfellas, both movies that are considered his best works.
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Originally Posted by Trout
Winning an oscar doesn't mean anything really. Scorsese is a great director and he won't need a cheap statue to tell him that.
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
Edit: I think the Academy is a bunch of bullshit anyway, but, Scorsese is one of my all-time favorites and deserving of the moniker of "Academy Award Winner".
Then what's the point of complaining? If you think it's a bullshit award then why bother caring about this issue enough to post a thread about it? If it's such a stupid award, much like "world's greatest dad" then wouldn't it be better for him to not have to play along with it or worry about it and just make good films instead of pushing the idea and in turn, making him create films that compromise his artistic interest in an attempt to win the bullshit award?
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Look. The Oscars are an award for popularity. Pure and simple. If one is nominated, one has to go out and campaign and say, "Look, I really AM the best, so vote for me, k?"
The reason Scorsesi (and countless others) don't win is because they don't bother with the campaigning. They get nominated and just roll with it. That's also why Johnny Depp doesn't win when he's nominated. He just doesn't campaign.
Scorsesi's work speaks for itself. Or it should. But it doesn't in the eyes of the Academy voters. They want to be schmoozed and reassured that they're voting for the best whatever, and that means nominees have to TELL them what to vote for. You think people are honestly surprised when they win? Why else would they have prepared speeches?
I know I wouldn't. I'd just go up and say, "Hey, thanks. Cool. Thanks to everyone I've ever met" or something totally off the cuff.
The reason Scorsesi (and countless others) don't win is because they don't bother with the campaigning. They get nominated and just roll with it. That's also why Johnny Depp doesn't win when he's nominated. He just doesn't campaign.
Scorsesi's work speaks for itself. Or it should. But it doesn't in the eyes of the Academy voters. They want to be schmoozed and reassured that they're voting for the best whatever, and that means nominees have to TELL them what to vote for. You think people are honestly surprised when they win? Why else would they have prepared speeches?
I know I wouldn't. I'd just go up and say, "Hey, thanks. Cool. Thanks to everyone I've ever met" or something totally off the cuff.
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Originally Posted by mllefoo
Pure and simple. If one is nominated, one has to go out and campaign and say, "Look, I really AM the best, so vote for me, k?"
The reason Scorsesi (and countless others) don't win is because they don't bother with the campaigning. They get nominated and just roll with it.
You think people are honestly surprised when they win? Why else would they have prepared speeches?
I know I wouldn't. I'd just go up and say, "Hey, thanks. Cool. Thanks to everyone I've ever met" or something totally off the cuff.
The reason Scorsesi (and countless others) don't win is because they don't bother with the campaigning. They get nominated and just roll with it.
You think people are honestly surprised when they win? Why else would they have prepared speeches?
I know I wouldn't. I'd just go up and say, "Hey, thanks. Cool. Thanks to everyone I've ever met" or something totally off the cuff.
Scorsese campaigned hard for The Aviator.
The campaign for The Aviator actually began with Leo's appearance at the previous year's Golden Globes.
There are five nominees, and you're one of them. You can be surprised that you were voted the winner, but it's also not a one-in-a-million shot coming totally out of the blue.
When Phillip Seymour Hoffman was a younger man who thought he would never win an Oscar, he vowed to his friends that if he ever did win one, he would bark like a dog for his acceptance speech.
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
I don't know what the point is of complaining about the 3-6 Mafia.
Do you think Scorsese should have an Oscar for Best Song on his shelf?
Why aren't you mad that Nick Park has four Oscars, and Scorsese has none?
Or that Martin McDonagh has an Oscar?
Do you think Scorsese should have an Oscar for Best Song on his shelf?
Why aren't you mad that Nick Park has four Oscars, and Scorsese has none?
Or that Martin McDonagh has an Oscar?
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Originally Posted by Count Dooku
When Phillip Seymour Hoffman was a younger man who thought he would never win an Oscar, he vowed to his friends that if he ever did win one, he would bark like a dog for his acceptance speech.
That Jon Stewart comment about 3-6-Mafia 1, Scorsese 0, I think pretty much guaranteed him to never host the Oscars again. Funny man.
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With all the music that's put in movies wasn't there more songs that could have been picked instead of the song that won?
To bad they didn't release a Bond movie last year, because then it would have won the Oscar no matter who sang even Ah-Ha!
To bad they didn't release a Bond movie last year, because then it would have won the Oscar no matter who sang even Ah-Ha!
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Originally Posted by mllefoo
Look. The Oscars are an award for popularity. Pure and simple. If one is nominated, one has to go out and campaign and say, "Look, I really AM the best, so vote for me, k?"
The reason Scorsesi (and countless others) don't win is because they don't bother with the campaigning. They get nominated and just roll with it. That's also why Johnny Depp doesn't win when he's nominated. He just doesn't campaign.
Scorsesi's work speaks for itself. Or it should. But it doesn't in the eyes of the Academy voters. They want to be schmoozed and reassured that they're voting for the best whatever, and that means nominees have to TELL them what to vote for. You think people are honestly surprised when they win? Why else would they have prepared speeches?
I know I wouldn't. I'd just go up and say, "Hey, thanks. Cool. Thanks to everyone I've ever met" or something totally off the cuff.
The reason Scorsesi (and countless others) don't win is because they don't bother with the campaigning. They get nominated and just roll with it. That's also why Johnny Depp doesn't win when he's nominated. He just doesn't campaign.
Scorsesi's work speaks for itself. Or it should. But it doesn't in the eyes of the Academy voters. They want to be schmoozed and reassured that they're voting for the best whatever, and that means nominees have to TELL them what to vote for. You think people are honestly surprised when they win? Why else would they have prepared speeches?
I know I wouldn't. I'd just go up and say, "Hey, thanks. Cool. Thanks to everyone I've ever met" or something totally off the cuff.
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Originally Posted by NatrlBornThrllr
If this Scorsesi guy is as good as you say he is, I'll have to check out some of his work. What movies would you recommend?
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