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Jason 01-22-06 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
no worst films list can't be complete without the inclusion of

Manos: The Hands of Fate

I'm not entirely comfortable with putting Manos on these lists. Yes, it probably is the actual worst movie ever made, in that the acting, script, directing, editing, sound, titles, costume design, location scouting, and probably even the catering are the worst examples ever put on celluloid, but it's an incredibly obscure movie. Before it was played on MST3K, it was completely unknown. I doubt it played more than a handful of times or had any actual distribution. It languished forgotten in some film vault until it was stumbled onto by the MST3K crew. A "worst movie of all time" has to be something that people have at least had the opportunity to see.

das Monkey 01-22-06 06:31 PM

<i>Orgy of the Dead</i> was released in 1965.

das

naughty jonny 01-22-06 07:15 PM

If it's revised, then Highlander II should be in the list.

Numanoid 01-23-06 08:02 AM

Last Year at Marienbad:jawdrop:

I know that Medved is an idiot (he's a right-wing talk show host too, is he not?) but that's just silly.

DealMan 01-23-06 08:33 AM

After looking over his website, I too can confirm that Micahael Medved is an asshat as previously stated.

Ketamine 01-23-06 09:01 AM

From his site, best and worst of 2005.

WORST OF 2005
1. Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo
2. The Devil's Rejects
3. Domino
4. The Dukes of Hazzard
5. Stealth
6. Alone in the Dark
7. The Brothers Grimm
8. Kicking and Screaming
9. Sahara
10. The Interpreter


BEST OF 2005
1. Cinderella Man
2. Pride and Prejudice
3. Walk the Line
4. Downfall
5. Crash
6. Saint Ralph
7. Match Point
8. Coach Carter
9. The Great Raid
10. Ushpizin

Haven't seen a number of these, but these movie picks don't seem to be way out there.

Damed 01-23-06 10:18 AM

Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (1973)

Say it isn't so!!!

Ms. M 01-23-06 10:28 AM

Medved's early writings, especially his bad film books, are actually pretty good. While you could make a case today that some of these movies were misplaced (like The Omen, Ivan, and Bring Me the Head...), most of these films are entirely terrible. I especially enjoy The Trial of Billy Jack as an unintentionally hilarious film.

Medved did a lot of popularize the enjoyment of bad movies as fun, campy entertainment. Without his work, there probably wouldn't be programs like Mystery Science Theater 3000, which I loved, so I'm grateful to him. There are updated versions of this kind of book, like 2005's The Official Razzie Movie Guide that include stuff like Manos.

Groucho 01-23-06 10:32 AM

I read this book a number of years ago, and it's a funny read even if you don't agree with some of the choices. I've met Medved, and he's an intelligent guy who knows a lot about film. However, I disagree 100% with his theory that Hollywood has a determined agenda to destroy America's values.

Sex Fiend 01-23-06 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
However, I disagree 100% with his theory that Hollywood has a determined agenda to destroy America's values.

Sweping, inflammatory, and absurd generalizations like that should be reason enough to discredit every other opinion that Micheal Medved ventures about anything having to do with art or culture. Medved has long been one of the most vocal leaders of the conservative right trying to villainize any artistic expression that they don't see as fitting in with their own moral ideologies. While he masks his agenda under an appeal to promote "family values", in the end, he's just another ranting bully who wants to inhibit free intellectual and/or artistic expression.

Jason 01-23-06 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Damed
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (1973)

Say it isn't so!!!

It's hardly the worst Godzilla movie, let alone one of the 50 worst movies of all time. Maybe he just picked because of it's pro-environment message.

caligulathegod 01-23-06 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by H8nXTC
I thought, much like Citizen Kane and Gone with the Wind are considered the best, Plan 9 from Outer Space was considered the worst (though Santa Claus Concurs the Martians was a close runner-up), yet it didn't even make this list.

Plan Nine From Outer Space was voted Worst Film by the readers of the 50 Worst Films of All Time. The result was published in the Golden Turkey Awards, which pretty much single handedly instigated the infamy surrounding that movie.

riley_dude 01-23-06 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Graftenberg
This also before the time of Michael Bay films.

and Brucheimer!
:toast:

grem458 01-23-06 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Graftenberg
This also before the time of Michael Bay films.

rotfl

He could easily have the top 5 worst of all time himself: Bad Boys, The Island, Armageddon, The Rock (#1 on my list :sad: ), and Pearl Harbor.

Buford T Pusser 01-24-06 01:00 AM

I'm a trained observer and have noticed that Michael Medved is fond of wearing a hat made of ass. Not sure if anyone has ever noticed that before.


BTW, Alfredo Garcia has Warren Oates and Sam Peckinpah's involvement so it can't be that bad.

raven56706 01-24-06 06:49 AM

Battlefield Earth isnt on that list.... so i call a Technical foul on that list for being wrong

RevKarl 01-25-06 03:31 AM

Actually, the original "worst" film books were written by his younger brother Harry (He was a teenager when the first one came out)...but since Michael was a published writer of note, having written "Whatever Happened to the Class of '68," he "edited" his brother's stuff and took co-author credit. Years later, after his career as a novelist dried up, Michael turned his "film expertise" into a full-time job.

digidoh 01-25-06 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by RevKarl
Actually, the original "worst" film books were written by his younger brother Harry (He was a teenager when the first one came out)...but ... Michael ... "edited" his brother's stuff and took co-author credit.

I don't know about the business of editing-then-taking-writing-credit, but the first book in the series The Fifty Worst Films of all Time was credited to Harry Medved and Randy Dreyfus. In a later book in the series, an introduction claimed that Michael worked on the first book but did not take credit, in order to avoid being a defendant in any possible lawsuits. Dreyfus, according to the intro, really didn't write any of the book; he simply drove one or both of the brothers around while they did their research.

Y2K Falcon 01-25-06 09:56 AM

No Wing Commander = No Sale.

A movie so bad, a 30+ year old list should have preemptively listed it.... -ohbfrank-

Mr. Cinema 01-25-06 09:57 AM

"Batman and Robin" and "Stealth" would have to show up on a list made today.

Philzilla 01-25-06 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jason
It's hardly the worst Godzilla movie, let alone one of the 50 worst movies of all time. Maybe he just picked because of it's pro-environment message.

If it actually had a pro-environment message, instead of its confused "I'm not sure what message I wish to convey" message

Godzilla's Revenge is far worse then Gvs.SM

Mr. Cinema 01-25-06 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Ketamine
From his site, best and worst of 2005.

BEST OF 2005
8. Coach Carter
9. The Great Raid

:hscratch:

Legolas 01-29-06 01:15 PM

As subjective as these lists are, what is the actual criteria to determine badness? Because all those straight-to-video T&A-fests starring Shannon Tweed or on Cinemax, all those straight-to-video cheapo action flicks starring Don "The Dragon" Wilson and Steven Seagal, all those really really cheap straight-to-video horror flicks are pretty much the bottom of the barrel and will never achieve goodness.

Of course, they aren't as widely seen as theatrical releases, and I suppose studio films with nice budgets that turn out crappy may be viewed as being worse for wasting all their resources.


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