DVD Talk Forum

DVD Talk Forum (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/)
-   Movie Talk (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk-17/)
-   -   Ocean's Thirteen (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/450896-oceans-thirteen.html)

NatrlBornThrllr 01-08-06 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by The Bus
I don't think the "brilliant plan" made Ocean's 11 endearing. The cast and style did. The plot was certainly very well put-together but if the movie starred Ben Affleck, Jessica Alba and Robert Redford as directed by Tony Scott, I don't think it would've been quite as good. (To be fair, had that same cast & crew been in Ocean's Twelve, it would've been horrendous).

I don't buy your notion that it was the cast and their chemistry that made the first film work. Why? Because we can test and very quickly disprove that theory with a look at the sequel. What carried the first movie to success was the fact that this amazing cast happened to be working with a great screenplay. The same can't be said about the second film, and instead of succeeding like it's predecessor, it comes off as nothing more than an exercise in stylistic masturbation.

-JP

Goldberg74 01-08-06 06:15 PM

Lucky 13. :up:

... maybe Quentin Tarantino will be the new addition. :lol:

atari2600 01-10-06 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
The fun of 11 (and the whole point, I thought) was that you got to see every little aspect of a single caper... inception, planning, recruitment, rehearsal, and the caper itself.

12 skipped all that and in some cases didn't even show the caper itself. They took away the entire point of the first film.

agreed. 11 is my fav movie ever. loved it. 12 was ok, not as good as 11 but still better than most crap in theaters these days. im hoping 13 turns out to be decent.

mikewendt 03-27-06 06:40 PM

Ocean's 13 - Summer 2007
 
Mar 27, 7:24 PM (ET)
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Now that George Clooney's an Academy Award winner, he and his crew are returning to their thieving ways.

Clooney, Brad Pitt and Matt Damon will star in "Ocean's 13," the third flick in their franchise about a gang of lovable crooks, distributor Warner Bros. announced Monday.

A supporting-actor Oscar winner for the oil-industry thriller "Syriana," Clooney will reprise his role as leader of the pack Danny Ocean, with the group pulling off a new heist in Las Vegas.

Clooney's producing partner Steven Soderbergh, who made the 2001 hit "Ocean's Eleven" and its 2004 sequel "Ocean's Twelve," will direct again.

Julia Roberts, Clooney's love interest in the first two movies, and "Ocean's Twelve" co-star Catherine Zeta-Jones will not be back for the third movie, according to Warner Bros.

"It was a script issue. We didn't have a place to really use talent like theirs, two big stars like that," said Jerry Weintraub, the franchise's producer. "They're very good friends of ours, and neither Soderbergh nor I would prevail on them to come back and do nothing just to do it."

Weintraub said if the filmmakers hit on a good idea to include the actresses, there was a chance Roberts and Zeta-Jones could return.

The studio expects the rest of the cast, including Don Cheadle, Andy Garcia, Bernie Mac, Carl Reiner and Elliott Gould, will return. Joining the cast will be Ellen Barkin.

Production is scheduled to start in July, with "Ocean's 13" due in theaters in summer 2007.





-- Eh, it'll probably make a shitload of money for them all... I'll wait 'til cable.

GoldenJCJ 03-27-06 06:58 PM

No Julia Roberts? I'm sooo there!

Robert 03-27-06 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by mikewendt
Mar 27, 7:24 PM (ET)

Julia Roberts, Clooney's love interest in the first two movies, and "Ocean's Twelve" co-star Catherine Zeta-Jones will not be back for the third movie, according to Warner Bros.

"It was a script issue. We didn't have a place to really use talent like theirs, two big stars like that," said Jerry Weintraub, the franchise's producer. "They're very good friends of ours, and neither Soderbergh nor I would prevail on them to come back and do nothing just to do it."


I think the real reason is purely budgetary.

starseed1981 03-27-06 07:16 PM

BORING. Sorry, worthless post.

Lateralus 03-27-06 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by starseed1981
BORING

Damn straight! When I was watching Oceans 12 I thought I was going to cry. I just don't like these type of movies.

mike45 03-27-06 08:15 PM

I enjoyed Ocean's 11. But, I couldn't even finish Ocean's 12.

DeanoBKN 03-27-06 08:57 PM

Ocean's 12 felt like one big inside joke, that I wasn't a part of. Blah.

NitroJMS 03-27-06 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Dean Kousoulas
Ocean's 12 felt like one big inside joke, that I wasn't a part of. Blah.

The inside joke was that they already had your $8.

EdTheRipper 03-27-06 09:28 PM

I'd see it on video.

jaeufraser 03-27-06 09:33 PM

After watching Ocean's 12 a second time I've actually grown quite fond of it. This cast does have chemistry in spades.

Plus the music kicks.

So I'll watch it.

digitalfreaknyc 03-27-06 10:34 PM

Loved the first. Hated the second. Here's hoping that without Zeta-Jones and WITH a plot it might have a chance.

Trigger 03-27-06 10:38 PM

noooooooo

Original Desmond 03-28-06 12:19 AM

Oceans 12 wasn't that good

Deadpool 03-28-06 09:00 AM

Who's Ellen Barkin?

Giles 03-28-06 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Original Desmond
Oceans 12 wasn't that good

my thoughts as well.

raven56706 03-28-06 09:24 AM

Oceans Seventy-Five.....They rob God

pdutta2000 03-28-06 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by jaeufraser
After watching Ocean's 12 a second time I've actually grown quite fond of it. This cast does have chemistry in spades.

I agree completely. I saw Ocean's 12 in the theaters and left unhappy. I then happened to catch it on HBO about 2 years later and was laughing my ass off. I'll probably go see Ocean's 13 as well.

taa455 03-28-06 12:16 PM

Rental.

Glad to see they are returning to Vegas in this one. Maybe they'll bring back a better plot.

atari2600 03-28-06 02:46 PM

LOVED oceans 11 - my fav movie. oceans 12 was ok but im still psyched for another one.

Charlie Goose 03-28-06 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Dean Kousoulas
Ocean's 12 felt like one big inside joke, that I wasn't a part of. Blah.

Yes, there was a certain smugness about the whole thing that kind of turned me off.

flashburn 03-28-06 04:33 PM

After liking Ocean's 11 a lot, I couldn't even get half way through 12. Don't think I will bother with this one.

DVD Josh 03-28-06 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Dean Kousoulas
Ocean's 12 felt like one big inside joke, that I wasn't a part of. Blah.

This is a perfect description of how I felt. They need to get back to the "caper" aspect that 11 had.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 PM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.