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Old 01-10-07, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sherm42
My favorite line was the Carl's Jr. tagline:

"Fuck you, I'm eating."

Or how about the cigarette ad:

"If you don't smoke this cigarette, Fuck You!"
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Well, it's out on DVD. I found it very entertaining, of course. It did deserve better as this is a subject about which there is a lot more to say. The deleted scenes about the "Museum of Fart" (the only way to interest the public in art is to show the exhibits farting, see: http://www.ifilm.com/video/2810910 ) were precious.

The film was probably canned because:

(1) the satire hit too close to home; the future depicted in the film looks too much like the present situation;

(2) Fox is run by Rupert Murdoch whose personal goal seems to dumb down our society into what is depicted in the film during his lifetime (to the point where his profits soar whenever Britney Spears forgets to put on her undies); and

(3) some of the public might have interpreted it as an attack on the present US administration.

Maybe, just maybe, the test audiences didn't laugh enough because they realized this is what their present life was like most of the time...

Also, maybe, just maybe, Starbucks and Gatorade objected to revelations about their secret business plans for the near future.

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But Gatorade has electrolytes...

I thought this movie was the closest you could get to a live-action Futurama.
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Originally Posted by slop101
But Gatorade has electrolytes...

I thought this movie was the closest you could get to a live-action Futurama.
And Gatorade has the electrolytes your crops need.

And we're all looking forward to...

... great films, with plots! Where you cared about whose ass it was, and why it was farting!

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See the Wikipedia entry for Idiocracy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

Production
The film was originally titled Amerikwa and later referred to as 3001 (this title was always known to be a place holder title), and was shown to test audiences around March 2005. There were unofficial reports of very poor ratings from that viewing. Some re-filming purportedly took place in the summer of 2005.


Release issues
In April 2006, a release date was finally set for September 1, 2006. But less than a month before it was set for release, numerous articles [1] revealed that the film's release was to be put on hold indefinitely. Although the release went ahead as planned, it was only a limited release (125 theaters), as opposed to a wide one (2,500-3,000). Initially, the film has been released only in Los Angeles, Atlanta, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Houston and Mike Judge's hometown, Austin.

According to the Austin American-Statesman[2], 20th Century Fox, the film's distributor, has done nothing to promote the movie — while there were posters released to theatres there were no trailers, television spots, or even press kits for media outlets provided. This has led to speculation in some quarters that 20th Century Fox may be actively trying to keep the film from being seen by a large audience, while fulfilling a contractual obligation to release the film in theaters before releasing it on DVD. However, due to Fox's reluctance to provide concrete information, various theories surfaced.[3] In a New York Times article Dan Mitchell has argued that Fox might be shying away from a cautionary tale about low-intelligence dysgenics. [4]


Reviews
Idiocracy generated mostly positive reviews, although early reviews were few due to the lack of advance screenings for critics. It received a 67% "fresh" rating on Rotten Tomatoes[5] (though it was only reviewed by 24 critics as of 8 January 2006), and received mostly positive reviews on the Internet Movie Database.
Here is the gist of the New York Times article:

What’s Online
Shying Away From Degeneracy

By DAN MITCHELL
Published: September 9, 2006

THE new film “Idiocracy” sounds like a sure winner. It was directed by Mike Judge, creator of the animated TV series “Beavis and Butt-head” and “King of the Hill,” and director of the sleeper movie hit “Office Space.” It stars Luke Wilson. It has received good reviews from the few critics who, despite the efforts of 20th Century Fox, have been able to see it.

So why did Fox, after sitting on the movie for two years before releasing it Sept. 1, decide not to market the film, opting instead to open it quietly in only 130 theaters and then quickly send it to video? Judging by the online reaction, there are at least two possible reasons.

The first is that the film is simply too stark a critique of American culture, or even that it is a cautionary tale about low-intelligence dysgenics (essentially, overbreeding among the stupid). The movie depicts a future in which everyone has become so dense and culturally lowbrow that Mr. Wilson’s character — an average guy from the present day who travels by accident hundreds of years forward in time — is a relative genius. Why, asks David Weigel on Reason magazine’s Hit and Run blog (reason.com), do “movies that exploit dumbed-down American culture get wide releases while a comedy making light of that, by the creator of ‘Beavis and Butt-head,’ is getting canned?”

He points to another blogger, Ilkka Kokkarinen, who writes that the implications of the movie’s theme — flatulence jokes aside — “are so immensely serious that it is simply unimaginable that any studio boss would take the slightest chance of becoming the next Mel Gibson over the idea that society of stupid people is worse than a society of smart people.” (sixteenvolts.blogspot.com) Populists — defenders of the little guy — would not stand for it, Mr. Kokkarinen says.

Others theorize that Fox disowned the film because it makes fun not only of Fox News — the studio’s sister division — but also of Starbucks, Fuddruckers and other companies that may advertise with one or more media outlets of Fox’s owner, the News Corporation.

The blog FishBowlLA quotes Luke Thompson, a movie reviewer for E! Online, as saying, “some of the sponsors may well have been unhappy with the way their products are placed, and made some phone calls to higher-ups” (mediabistro.com).

A Fox spokeswoman told The Austin American-Statesman that the studio’s handling of the movie was “an executive decision from the chairman,” and would not elaborate.
In conclusion, it's a mystery. But it might have something to do with Fox sponsors not liking it much, Fox not liking it much and everyone being afraid to make fun of a serious subject like dysgenics (essentially, the fact that the more intelligent you are, the less children you have in this modern society, as is amply demonstrated in the film's prologue). Or, as Dr. Lexus says:

So basically it says here you're fucked up, you sound like a ****, and your shit's all retarded.
Typical promotional poster:

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Old 01-10-07, 05:26 PM
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Still seems like Mike Judge should have something to say about this.
Unfortunately in one interview I read he seemed overly meek or something...!
Old 01-12-07, 01:14 PM
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watched this last night, VERY disappointed...has some very funny moments but too much of the movie just doesn't work
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Watched it last night as well. I enjoyed it, it was funny though not as good as Office Space. Well worth a rental IMO.
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I thought it started well, but I could see the dysgenics opening (which was brilliant) really becoming too controversial for the studio. I laughed a few times but was overall a little disappointed, especially since Office Space is one of the great comedies ever in my view, and totally spot on inditement of corporate America. Hopefully, Judge will get to make more movies.
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Hated the movie. Just hated it.

I borrowed it from a friend at work a few weeks ago. My son dumped a drink on the box the day I got it. I planned to buy a new copy to replace it and keep the wrinkled up cover copy. Due to unfortunate circuimstances I have been without my liscense and driving with expired tabs for the last two weeks so I haven't been able to get to the store. Every day that I see the person who lent it to me I apologize for forgeting it.

I finally get around to watching it last night. Didn't even crack a smile. I wasn't offended with it in any way. It just wasn't funny. I like Mike Judge's work. Beavis and Butthead was fine. For some reason I never watched King of the Hill after season 4 or 5 but I always enjoyed it when I did watch it. Office Space would be in my top 5 comedies of all time. It takes a true talent to miss the mark by this much. He's very lucky that they didn't release this with much fanfare. If they did it would really, really hurt his name.

I hated it so much that I confessed to my friend what had happened, told her I was going to bring her the movie in, and buy her a replacement film of her choice to even things out. I'll be picking up Fargo tomorrow.
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the beginning was good, then it turned really bad
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Originally Posted by Nesbit
Hated the movie. Just hated it.
Removed -Blake

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Originally Posted by slop101
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Is that from the movie? It's been a while since I've seen it.

Anyway, I really enjoyed it. Laughed my ass off the whole time.

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I removed the quote above even though it is from the movie because it was out of place, and used to denigrate another member of the board.
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Originally Posted by Blake
I removed the quote above even though it is from the movie because it was out of place, and used to denigrate another member of the board.

Yeah, because a direct quote from the movie in a thread about the movie is out of place...

And it was meant tongue-in-cheek, not as an attack. He was meant to laugh at that, not be upset about it.

But, whatever.
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Not as good as Office Space, but funnier than 99% of other Hollywood comedies that get wide release. Beats the snot out of movies like My Super Ex-Girlfriend and The Dukes of Hazzard.

I like how, in the future, you're allowed to just shout out "baitin'!" and that's an acceptable enough reason for whoever is knocking at your door to go away.
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Originally Posted by slop101
Removed -Blake
My professional opinion:http://moviewavs.com/0028375953/WAVS...nyourchart.wav

Furthermore:
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More words of wisdom from http://www.gotwavs.com/Movies/Idiocracy.html

http://jahozafat.com/0028375953/WAVS...rewasatime.wav
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Fox News as depicted in Idiocracy:

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P.S.: The entire film is available on youtube in 9 parts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLZHYDu26kE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiPj6yVR4lo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqQo3rM0Og

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxnH2fc6IwE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1mzxRauDCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9f1E74stk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr_un9iXBa8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x2ngHQNtKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl-CJiVfFg

Final gag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WDJfZmTLO8

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Originally Posted by slop101

Yeah, because a direct quote from the movie in a thread about the movie is out of place...

And it was meant tongue-in-cheek, not as an attack. He was meant to laugh at that, not be upset about it.

But, whatever.
Regardless of how it was meant, it obviously came across wrong because I received several reports about it - hence the removal.
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Deleted scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m52-4vfSlYA
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Originally Posted by Blake
I received several reports about it...
Really?
God, what a bunch of humorless pussies.
How do people like this cope in the real world when they have no one to tattle to?
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More on the Rupert Murdoch conspiracy theory from http://www.filmstew.com/showArticle....ontentID=14739


Murdoch with wife Wendy Deng

One popular — and certainly not too farfetched — theory is that the proudly lowbrow, R-rated Idiocracy touched a nerve within boardrooms because of how harshly it comes down satirically on some of its corporate players within the movie. Apart from the Costco dig and all sorts of franchising and licensing jokes, delivered in visual scattershot throughout the film, over the years the burger chain Fuddrucker’s has morphed into Buttf*ckers, Starbucks gives hand-jobs with its lattes, and tax refunds (I think from a name company, though I can’t recollect with 100% certainty) can be received in the form of further sexual gratification. “If you don’t smoke Tarrylton’s… f*ck you!” exclaims one leering billboard, while Carl’s Jr. kiosks repeatedly greet customers in similarly crude fashion.

One rumor has Starbucks and-or other companies threatening legal action or, more likely, noncompliance and non-cooperation in future projects with the studio, meaning that this dump of Idiocracy satisfies 20th Century Fox’s contractual obligations while also showing their groveling sensitivity to the thin-skinned interests of fellow corporate citizens (as opposed to the alternative of… I don’t know, all that material somehow slipping by those that greenlit the movie and the legion of well-paid legal vetters that help handle product placement and rights clearances in films?). It’s hard to prove, of course — coincidentally, just like indecency. But Fox ducked calls for comment on this, or even to confirm or discuss the movie’s release strategy, except to say that it came out last week.

That, as much as the bizarrely bullet-riddled commercial corpse of Idiocracy, seems to say something.
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I saw it recently and thought it was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I laughed about 5 times, which is 5 times more than I laughed in Envy, but this movie was unfunny and stupid.

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