"Daredevil" DC...such an under appreciated classic!
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I really liked the movie especially the DC,loved Affleck and Garner and thought the movie looked cool and maybe since i didnt have high expectations it made it even better.
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i really liked Daredevil, havent seen the DC but its much better then people say. They are always way too harsh on Ben Affleck I thought he did a good job in it. I will even go as far as I liked Dardevil more then the first spiderman
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Originally Posted by astrochimp
I really liked the movie especially the DC,loved Affleck and Garner and thought the movie looked cool and maybe since i didnt have high expectations it made it even better.
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The kicker is that playground fight scene between Matt and Elektra. If you can ignore that part you can enjoy the movie. The music in that part reminded me of the only thing I didn't like about some Dario Argento scenes. Heavy metal with the worst fucking timing.
Ordered my disc today (been meaning to and this thread kicked me to). Any idea why the DC disc is cheaper than the TC? It was 10 bucks at Deep Discount.
Ordered my disc today (been meaning to and this thread kicked me to). Any idea why the DC disc is cheaper than the TC? It was 10 bucks at Deep Discount.
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this movie just rocks. i just finished it and thoroughly enjoyed it. the extended scenes made so much sense and i can't believe the TE got released that way with out all the necessary filler
and without it, it can't make sense in the TE. i really want to see the TE now just to see how this was done without the holes filled in.
it just makes you wonder which version would truly make the most $ if they were released together. if only they released this cut, would it have been the uber-blockbuster that they predicted?
it brings up so many ?'s and makes me wonder why the true visions of certain films won't get shown simply because it is perhaps less "marketable". it seems we suffer for the sake of the bastardization of potentially great films. i think the movie going public has come a long way and should be given the credit to understand and enjoy the cerebral over the fluff.
i really wonder if "Daredevil" had come out after "Batman Begins" if the DC would be the one given the royal treatment and presented to the public. i think DD DC really falls into the BB category, now, after seeing BB, as the more thinking person's superhero flick rather than the fluff of say "Fantastic 4".
both Batman and Daredevil are flawed and less than perfect with no real superpowers and they become heros despite it all and it makes both movies, "Batman Begins" and "Daredevil" DC absolutely a joy to sit through multiple times.
and did you catch
cameo? i didn't
that is all...
Spoiler:
it just makes you wonder which version would truly make the most $ if they were released together. if only they released this cut, would it have been the uber-blockbuster that they predicted?
it brings up so many ?'s and makes me wonder why the true visions of certain films won't get shown simply because it is perhaps less "marketable". it seems we suffer for the sake of the bastardization of potentially great films. i think the movie going public has come a long way and should be given the credit to understand and enjoy the cerebral over the fluff.
i really wonder if "Daredevil" had come out after "Batman Begins" if the DC would be the one given the royal treatment and presented to the public. i think DD DC really falls into the BB category, now, after seeing BB, as the more thinking person's superhero flick rather than the fluff of say "Fantastic 4".
both Batman and Daredevil are flawed and less than perfect with no real superpowers and they become heros despite it all and it makes both movies, "Batman Begins" and "Daredevil" DC absolutely a joy to sit through multiple times.
and did you catch
Spoiler:
that is all...
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Originally Posted by Kudama
Any idea why the DC disc is cheaper than the TC? It was 10 bucks at Deep Discount.
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now my question is...when the hell are we going to see "Daredevil 2"???this is a potential franchise not to be pawned off simply because people were offset by things in the TE. Affleck did an admirable job and really played the character how you were supposed to i think.
they cut out the bad and use the criticism to SHOW the movie they wanted to in the first place! all the players will be back sans perhaps Garner who i think (along with that part of the story)was the only wink link and gotta double the dose on Bullseye. Colin just played the crap out of that part!
they cut out the bad and use the criticism to SHOW the movie they wanted to in the first place! all the players will be back sans perhaps Garner who i think (along with that part of the story)was the only wink link and gotta double the dose on Bullseye. Colin just played the crap out of that part!
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I got this movie as part of a 3 pack with the other two movies being both X-men films (I'm giving them another shot). Only $16.99!!! (at my local store).
Daredevil (DC) is fucking terrible. I just got done watching it and I'm now going to use it as a beer coaster (seriously) for when I watch the X-Men films......which I'm about to do right now so I'll talk to ya later.
Bye now.
Daredevil (DC) is fucking terrible. I just got done watching it and I'm now going to use it as a beer coaster (seriously) for when I watch the X-Men films......which I'm about to do right now so I'll talk to ya later.
Bye now.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
If you hated the theatrical, the director's cut won't change your mind.
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The DC is definitely better, mainly because, as someone else already stated, it focuses more on Daredevil and less on Elektra.
Still not a prefect film, and even the director himself (in interviews explaining the DC) doesn't feel this is his 'definitve' version of the film - but it's a hell of a lot better than Elektra. Now that, was an out and out peice of crap!
Still not a prefect film, and even the director himself (in interviews explaining the DC) doesn't feel this is his 'definitve' version of the film - but it's a hell of a lot better than Elektra. Now that, was an out and out peice of crap!
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I turned off the theatrical cut after about 30 minutes,
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I thought the theatrical version was fairly entertaining. One of the things I liked about it was how they handled the romance of the Matt/Elektra. It handles the relationship much better than the average romance flick could. There are just some really tender scenes between the two (the rain scene and the ball).
The movie is still flawed. I cringed during the scene where Matt and Elektra are fighting in on the see-saw. But I think if you're willing to go with it and stuff like that, the movie is rather effective. I think it has some strong characterizations. Affleck's adequate in the role. He does look pretty silly in the floppy reddish hair though. Garner did a solid job and Farrel was over the top but enjoyable. The Kingpin could've been so much more though.
The movie is still flawed. I cringed during the scene where Matt and Elektra are fighting in on the see-saw. But I think if you're willing to go with it and stuff like that, the movie is rather effective. I think it has some strong characterizations. Affleck's adequate in the role. He does look pretty silly in the floppy reddish hair though. Garner did a solid job and Farrel was over the top but enjoyable. The Kingpin could've been so much more though.
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I liked the theatrical cut and I loved the Director's cut. I must state that I still hate Affleck. His overacting is horrible. His buddy Matt Damon would have made a better Murdock.
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I rather like the original movie, I'd line it up with Fantastic Four - flawed, but still fun.
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I've never seen the theatrical cut, but I just watched the Director's Cut and thought it was pretty good. From what I've seen of the stuff left out of the theatrical cut it looks like the director's cut is much better - better character development and better pacing.
Too bad that they seem to have totally screwed up the Elektra movie (I haven't seen that one, and it sounds like I haven't missed anything). I thought she was an interesting, entertaining character that had a lot of potential. It's all about the script, and like Catwoman it seems that the producers thought that crap would be good enough if they had the right star. I'd love to see a re-do of the Elektra movie with a new (better) script and a good director. That isn't going to happen, though....
Too bad that they seem to have totally screwed up the Elektra movie (I haven't seen that one, and it sounds like I haven't missed anything). I thought she was an interesting, entertaining character that had a lot of potential. It's all about the script, and like Catwoman it seems that the producers thought that crap would be good enough if they had the right star. I'd love to see a re-do of the Elektra movie with a new (better) script and a good director. That isn't going to happen, though....
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The DD films are my fav comic book adaptations. Enjoyed them more than the XMen and Spiderman films.
This was released at the height of the "hate Affleck" time. That had to be a part of it's less than expected performance.
And a lot has been said about the music. Meh. The soundtrack CD was in my car for a long time as my sons and I played it to death. Sure, it may feel dated now, but that can be said for most any pop-soundtrack film. Fast Times? The Graduate? (Also two of my favs)
I'd like to see a DD2, but...I doubt it'll ever be released. I remember many saying "Who's Daredevil?" when it came out. Doesn't have the recognition of a Batman, Superman or Spiderman. That, and the performance of the first film, may have ended any chances at a sequel.
This was released at the height of the "hate Affleck" time. That had to be a part of it's less than expected performance.
And a lot has been said about the music. Meh. The soundtrack CD was in my car for a long time as my sons and I played it to death. Sure, it may feel dated now, but that can be said for most any pop-soundtrack film. Fast Times? The Graduate? (Also two of my favs)
I'd like to see a DD2, but...I doubt it'll ever be released. I remember many saying "Who's Daredevil?" when it came out. Doesn't have the recognition of a Batman, Superman or Spiderman. That, and the performance of the first film, may have ended any chances at a sequel.
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I was under the impression that Daredevil did fairly well for a February release (just reaching $100 million). They made a big deal about its smaller budget and February release date. All the reports I read and saw on TV about the box office performance of DD were fairly positive - good enough that they were talking about the possibility of a sequel.
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Originally Posted by scott1598
I liked the theatrical a lot and not sure why there was so much criticism. This is really a good movie and a good superhero movie as well. Sure it's dark and gritty, but that is why it works so well above the lighter superhero fare.
I thought Ben did an admirable job and this DC just adds to the enjoyment. With the extra scenes of how he is such a brilliant lawyer...not bad. Gives him personality and Colin Farrell just steals the show as Bullseye. He was so superiorly deranged.
Where's the love...
I thought Ben did an admirable job and this DC just adds to the enjoyment. With the extra scenes of how he is such a brilliant lawyer...not bad. Gives him personality and Colin Farrell just steals the show as Bullseye. He was so superiorly deranged.
Where's the love...
Like Fantastic 4 after it this movie was made for a young audience and it shows.
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I bought the DC when it first came out, but actually never got around to watching it until this thread popped up, so I watched it yesterday... I really liked the theatrical cut, wasn't sure why people hated it so much. I thought Affleck was really good, Garner was hot enough and Farrell fucking chewed the scenery in such a fun way (one of the best movie villains in recent memory).
I may have liked the theatrical, but I LOVED the DC. It was pretty damn good. It really helped clarify a lot of story points, gave a few really good character moments with Favreau and Affleck. I'd say it was easily one of the better superhero movies...certainly no Spider-man 2 or Batman Begins, but I thought it was definitely better than the likes of Hulk, Punisher, Fantastic Four and ...wait for it... The X-Men movies... I'd really like to see Affleck back for a DD2.
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I may have liked the theatrical, but I LOVED the DC. It was pretty damn good. It really helped clarify a lot of story points, gave a few really good character moments with Favreau and Affleck. I'd say it was easily one of the better superhero movies...certainly no Spider-man 2 or Batman Begins, but I thought it was definitely better than the likes of Hulk, Punisher, Fantastic Four and ...wait for it... The X-Men movies... I'd really like to see Affleck back for a DD2.
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