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RichC2 11-05-05 10:42 AM

Weekend Box Office Thread (11/4/05 - 11/6/05)
 
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href="/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-11-06&p=.htm">Sunday<br>11/6</a></b></font></th><th bgcolor="#dcdcdc"><font size="2"><b><a href="/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-11-07&p=.htm">Monday<br>11/7</a></b></font></th></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">1</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=chickenlittle.htm">CHICKEN LITTLE</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">3,654</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$10,730,000</font><br><br><font color="#000000" size="2">--<font color="#00000"> / $2,937</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$10,730,000 / 1</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">2</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=jarhead.htm">JARHEAD</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">2,411</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$10,470,000</font><br><br><font color="#000000" size="2">--<font color="#00000"> / $4,343</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$10,470,000 / 1</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">3</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=saw2.htm">SAW II</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">2,949</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$5,730,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">166.7%<font color="#00000"> / $1,943</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$48,998,000 / 8</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">4</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=zorro2.htm">THE LEGEND OF ZORRO</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">3,520</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$2,875,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">225.8%<font color="#00000"> / $817</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$23,163,000 / 8</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">5</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=prime.htm">PRIME</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">1,837</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$1,690,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">236.4%<font color="#00000"> / $920</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$9,883,000 / 8</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">6</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="1"><b><a href="/movies/?id=dreamer.htm">DREAMER: INSPIRED BY A TRUE STORY</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">2,617</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$1,340,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">241.9%<font color="#00000"> / $512</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$20,367,000 / 15</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">7</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=weatherman.htm">THE WEATHER MAN</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">1,510</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$890,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">136.3%<font color="#00000"> / $589</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$6,659,000 / 8</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">8</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="1"><b><a href="/movies/?id=goodnightandgoodluck.htm">GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK.</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">657</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$860,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">398.8%<font color="#00000"> / $1,309</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$8,767,000 / 29</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">9</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=shopgirl.htm">SHOPGIRL</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">493</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$735,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">1274.3%<font color="#00000"> / $1,491</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$1,697,000 / 15</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">10</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=flightplan.htm">FLIGHTPLAN</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">1,445</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$710,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">228%<font color="#00000"> / $491</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$82,833,000 / 43</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">11</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=northcountry.htm">NORTH COUNTRY</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">2,211</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$625,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">88.1%<font color="#00000"> / $283</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$14,119,000 / 15</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">12</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=fog05.htm">THE FOG</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">1,669</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$585,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">268.4%<font color="#00000"> / $351</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$26,616,000 / 22</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#f4f4ff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font size="4">13</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b><a href="/movies/?id=doom.htm">DOOM</a></b></font><br>&nbsp;<br><font size="2">1,986</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><b><font color="#000080" size="3">$515,000</font><br><br><font color="#0000ff" size="2">53.9%<font color="#00000"> / $259</font></font><br><font color="#800080" size="2"><nobr>$24,950,000 / 15</nobr></font></b></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td bgcolor="#ffffff"align="center" valign="top"><br>N/A</font></td><td 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Low for Chicken Little, high for Jarhead. Saw II is holding up remarkably well too (down 52% Friday-to-Friday, and considering the Friday-to-Saturday drop last weekend, that's a badass hold). I'd say we should be out of the slump this weekend, and it's possible, but going up against the Incredibles from last year? No easy task. Chicken Little should see a huge increase on Saturday, Jarhead and Saw II should see moderate increases. Wallace and Gromit took a huge hit.

Matthew Chmiel 11-05-05 11:11 AM

Disney films, for some odd reason, always have staying power when it comes to the box office. This summer's Herbie: Fully Loaded and Sky High made almost $70 million each with opening weekend totals less of $15 million. I can see Chicken Little making around $100-110 million, but anything significantly over that I can't.

Audience word of mouth on Jarhead seems pretty good despite most critics being extremely mixed on it. I could see another $100 million hit for Mendes here, but we'll see how it does next weekend.

And Saw II continues to make a profit. ;)

Jackskeleton 11-05-05 02:48 PM

So potentially 30 million for chicken little on the weekend is a low? Considering the box office numbers of the past couple of weeks I would say that having two films reach that sort of number at the same time is pretty good.

jaeufraser 11-05-05 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
So potentially 30 million for chicken little on the weekend is a low? Considering the box office numbers of the past couple of weeks I would say that having two films reach that sort of number at the same time is pretty good.

Oh it's definately kind of low, at least from the perspective of Disney considering the expectations they had for this film. It's not awful or anything, but they certainly wanted better.

I don't think the box office of the past month is necessairly a major indicator though. Saw 2 broke 30 million last week, and November has always been far more robust at the box office than October.

Iron_Giant 11-05-05 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
So potentially 30 million for chicken little on the weekend is a low? Considering the box office numbers of the past couple of weeks I would say that having two films reach that sort of number at the same time is pretty good.

CL cost $60 million (???Marketing)- Will gross about $150 million worldwide
THE INCREDIBLES cost $92 million (plus $60 million in Marketing) - Made $631,436,092 worldwide

1. Disney keeps all of the money from CL: Profit Worldwide = About $70million

2. Pixar/Disney = ($631,436,092 - $152,000,000 Marketing) - 35% Pixar = About $312Million for Disney

Do the math, Disney is not going to make as much as they did with Pixar.

Now, how much money is Pixar going to make without Disney, time will tell.

Pixar/Disney's Cars just does not seem like something that is going to thrill me, but I said that about The Incredibles when I first saw its trailer. Another wait and see movie.

DRG 11-05-05 07:09 PM

Comparable weekends:

Robots
1st Friday: $9,800,000; 1st Weekend: $36,045,301

Shark Tale
1st Friday: $12,700,000; 1st Weekend: $47,604,606

I'd guess this puts Chicken Little in the $38-42 million range for the full weekend.

Terrell 11-05-05 07:16 PM


Will gross about $150 million worldwide
So you think it's only going to make 150 million worldwide? I'd say more like 150 million domestic would be closer.

Jackskeleton 11-05-05 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
CL cost $60 million (???Marketing)- Will gross about $150 million worldwide
THE INCREDIBLES cost $92 million (plus $60 million in Marketing) - Made $631,436,092 worldwide

1. Disney keeps all of the money from CL: Profit Worldwide = About $70million

2. Pixar/Disney = ($631,436,092 - $152,000,000 Marketing) - 35% Pixar = About $312Million for Disney

Do the math, Disney is not going to make as much as they did with Pixar.

Now, how much money is Pixar going to make without Disney, time will tell.

Pixar/Disney's Cars just does not seem like something that is going to thrill me, but I said that about The Incredibles when I first saw its trailer. Another wait and see movie.

Fuck it, Disney buys Pixar. [/End story]

You really think that Disney is going to go under or can't go on without Pixar? The back end of Chicken little products, park tie-in's, Collectable soda cups, baby shirts and so forth will all for make up any sort of "let down" that it got from the box office.

I love how all animation is tossed up against Pixar. Like, we should totally compare Dude where's my car to any Kurosawa flick.

With Eisner out, I don't see why we should toss up a Disney Vs Pixar case anyways. Since there isn't any disneyless pixar films out there and by all account, all the signs show the two working together in the future.

Iron_Giant 11-05-05 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Fuck it, Disney buys Pixar. [/End story]

You really think that Disney is going to go under or can't go on without Pixar? The back end of Chicken little products, park tie-in's, Collectable soda cups, baby shirts and so forth will all for make up any sort of "let down" that it got from the box office.

I love how all animation is tossed up against Pixar. Like, we should totally compare Dude where's my car to any Kurosawa flick.

With Eisner out, I don't see why we should toss up a Disney Vs Pixar case anyways. Since there isn't any disneyless pixar films out there and by all account, all the signs show the two working together in the future.

Dude - Chill...I was not say Disney as a whole, I was trying to compare movies.

Looks like my est for the $$$ gross for Chicken Little was a "Little" low, but I do not think it will do as well as "Sharks Tell" or "Robots". CL is aim more at little kids, the other were not aim just at little kids. Worldwide gross could be more like $200 million.

Jackskeleton 11-06-05 01:27 AM

Chill? I wasn't aware that I got uppitty. Seems that it goes like this, one person makes a claim that it did poorly.. another gets up and says they disagree. The original person claims the other person's claim is overexaggerated. Back and forth trying to outshine each others pre-matured statement.

Got to love the industry where everyone makes one extreme claim after another within a short time after some facts are out there.

Then again, I should have just responded to "dude, chill" when you made the claim that Disney was boned without Pixar.

scott shelton 11-06-05 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Iron_Giant
Worldwide gross could be more like $200 million.

Really?

Regardless of quality, Disney is bringing out the big marketing guns on this one. 200 seems very low. VERY low.

scott shelton 11-06-05 11:48 AM

1 Chicken Little $40,086,000

2 Jarhead $28,751,000

3 Saw II $17,200,000
$60,468,000

4 The Legend of Zorro $10,000,000
$30,288,000

5 Prime $5,263,000
$13,456,000

6 Dreamer $4,800,000
$23,827,000

7 Good Night, and Good Luck $3,100,000
$11,007,000

8 The Weather Man $2,935,000
$8,704,000

9 Shopgirl $2,524,000
$3,486,000

10 Flightplan $2,330,000
$84,452,000

Full Report

fumanstan 11-06-05 01:24 PM

Another 17 mil for Saw II :up:

And 200 million worldwide for Chicken Little sounds incredibly low to me too.

Matthew Chmiel 11-06-05 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by fumanstan
And 200 million worldwide for Chicken Little sounds incredibly low to me too.

The problem Chicken Little is facing is that there's a high profile family film coming out every weekend now. Disney/PIXAR was lucky last year as The Incredibles had no competition to fight against it.

Zathura is coming out on Friday with positive buzz from the two wide sneak previews, promotion on The Apprentice, and the director of Elf (another family blockbuster) attached. While the film might not be geared for younger children, it still has a built in audience and I feel positive that it'll break $100 million. If Jumanji, a family film with terrible word of mouth, can break $100 million on just it's legs alone (the film had an opening weekend of $11 million), I don't see why Zathura can't do the same.

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire opens the week after Zathura. Despite it's PG-13 rating, it's guaranteed $200 million. Who knows, it's coming right off the summer heels of the last book release; this could give the previous two sequels a run for their money.

Yours, Mine and Ours comes out the week after Potter. Trailers make this flick look like shit, but people did shell out $100 million plus for the terrible Cheaper by the Dozen. It's also getting free advertising towards children due to the fact that Nickelodeon is attached to the film.

Then the box office takes a break the first weekend of Decemeber.

Then we have the potential juggernaut that is entitled The Chronicles Of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.

And, since it'll probably get a PG-13 rating, King Kong opening shortly after that.

Simply put, this holiday season is PACKED.

The WOM is very mixed (more leaning towards negative) towards Chicken Little. It's got competition coming out at every crook and nanny, something which the last CGI-flick, Robots, did not have. While Robots had a lower opening weekend gross and worse word of mouth, what it lacked was competition (keeping it's legs). The drop could be quite little next weekend, or it could plummet to a short death (just like Disney's past few tradional animated films). We just have to see what it does it's second weekend to see how the film will fare.

Jackskeleton 11-06-05 04:45 PM

He was talking about world wide. with a potential 100-112 range domesticlly, I don't see why it's so far fetched to believe it will make an extra 100 the very least around the world.

the action 11-06-05 04:46 PM

Jumanji had Robin Williams back when he was in his box office prime. Who does Zathura have? Plenty of other well reviewed children movies have failed before ie the Iron Giant and the Little Princess, I would be shocked if this movie grossed more than 60 mil.

jaeufraser 11-06-05 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by the action
Jumanji had Robin Williams back when he was in his box office prime. Who does Zathura have? Plenty of other great children movies have failed before ie the Iron Giant and the Little Princess, I would be shocked if this movie grossed more than 60 mil.

Jumanji also opend on December 15th and was able to play throughout the winter break period, which often times gives movies good legs.

Zathura doesn't have that benefit and has Potter on its heels.

Hokeyboy 11-06-05 10:43 PM

I saw Chicken Little tonite with a packed house full of kids and families. The overall reaction was EXCEPTIONALLY positive. People were laughing, cheering, and clapping, especially at the "let's wrap the movie up with all our characters covering a famous pop song" ending (ugh.)

I think this is going to have strong holdover. $150 million (domestic) is DEFINITELY possible, if not more. Personally, I thought the movie, while no classic, was definitely entertaining enough.

Giles 11-07-05 08:53 AM

how have been the screenings of the 3D version of 'Chicken Little' versus the standard 35mm prints - the tickets for the 3D version are actually a dollar more.


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