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PopcornTreeCt 09-08-05 12:00 PM

X-men or X-men 2?
 
Now that the hype has long died down for X-Men 2, I ask you which is the better X-Men movie?

FX plays X-Men at least 5 times a week and somehow manage to watch it at least 3 times. So, last week I was sick of watching X-Men all the time and put in X-Men 2.

Wow, how disappointing. This movie was not nearly as good as I remembered. Sure, the Nightcrawler scene in the beginning is quite awesome but all that is negated (in fact most of the fight scenes are negated) when you learn that Brian Cox has these mutants under a silly spell. Which is where I believe the movie is at it's biggest fault. That whole storyline with Stryker controlling the mutants fails so many times. Basically, there aren't any "bad" mutants in the movie only 1 bad guy who controls all of them. Which in my mind undermines the entire film. Also, the first movie focused on Wolverine and Rogue. X-Men 2 kinda puts Rogue in the background as they focus more on the story and attempt to flesh out a Wolverine back story.

IMO, X-Men is far superior to X-Men 2. It's no masterpiece but it has character and heart and a less of a ridiculous plot.

reverie 09-08-05 12:13 PM

X-Men was a great film, but after seeing X-Men 2, it made the first feel like a ten minute intro to me.

QuikSilver 09-08-05 12:16 PM

X2 all the way.

The Infidel 09-08-05 12:16 PM

Well, there were actually only two mutants being controlled by Stryker (three if you count his son), and he didn't even control Magneto after he broke out of prison, so I don't think that counts as "all of them". They also made sure during X2 that you knew the bad guys were still bad. They worked together with the X-Men until they absolutely didn't have to any more, they grabbed Pyro, and blew the heck out of there.

I'm glad they got the Wolverine story out of the way; they focused pretty heavy on it in both movies, the first movie being more flashbacks than actual explanation. If they're making a third movie, this will leave them room to focus on someone else, like Jean returning.

As far as plots and character development, I think they did as well as they could to keep a good balance of story and effects. After all, they're comic book movies.

dadaluholla 09-08-05 12:40 PM

X2 is much much better in my opinion.
Probably the best Marvel film to date.

Josh H 09-08-05 12:43 PM

X2.

First movies in comic series always get dragged down by having to cover the origins.

cleaver 09-08-05 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by dadaluholla
X2 is much much better in my opinion.
Probably the best Marvel film to date.

I agree. Until Sin City X2 was my #1 comic movie. It was ripped from God Loves, Man Kills, so the story arch feels so much more like a comic (and a damn good one) than X-Men or any other Marvel movie.

Joe Molotov 09-08-05 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Sure, the Nightcrawler scene in the beginning is quite awesome but all that is negated (in fact most of the fight scenes are negated) when you learn that Brian Cox has these mutants under a silly spell.

If you think that's silly, I'd like to get your opinion on a machine that will turn all the world's leaders into mutants. ;)

The first movie was good, but the second movie was better.

nodeerforamonth 09-08-05 01:00 PM

X-Men 2 had too much of a political message in it. Which dates the movie (or will date the movie).

Filmmaker 09-08-05 01:02 PM

X-MEN 2 by a country mile; the problem with the first was that it was edited way too rapidly; it gives the sense of miles of deleted footage on some cutting room floor. The second took the time necessary to tell a full, well-rounded story.

fumanstan 09-08-05 01:04 PM

X2. Nightcrawler + Wolverine during the mansion attack was fun to watch :)

jaeufraser 09-08-05 01:19 PM

Another vote for X2 all the way. XMen laid the groundwork, but I agree the film feels short...as if its just 2.3rds a movie or an appetizer to them main course, X2.

X2 was the fully fleshed out, full on story and action sequences I wanted to see. And it was great fun. X2 all the way...though Xmen is still a solid film, and watching them together is good fun.

majorjoe23 09-08-05 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
X-Men 2 had too much of a political message in it. Which dates the movie (or will date the movie).

That Nightcrawler hates apolitical, unnamed presidents? I know I was outraged.

cleaver 09-08-05 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
X-Men 2 had too much of a political message in it. Which dates the movie (or will date the movie).

The book came out in the early 90s. I thought the movie had more to do with race than politics.

Joe Molotov 09-08-05 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by cleaver
The book came out in the early 90s. I thought the movie had more to do with race than politics.

Yeah, but I'm sure this whole "race" issue will blow over in another 5 years or so. :sarcasm:

Kal-El 09-08-05 02:05 PM

X2. I like to call the first movie eX-creMENt.

UAIOE 09-08-05 02:26 PM

X2 by far.

X2 flowed better and i think its more interesting.

animalmystic 09-08-05 02:39 PM

X2>X-Men

You can close the thread now :)

Geofferson 09-08-05 02:41 PM

X2 is far superior, IMO.

B.A. 09-08-05 02:44 PM

I like the first one a lot. However, I love the sequel.

smirnoff 09-08-05 02:53 PM

The first one by a hair, because of the line "what do they call you, wheels?"

matome 09-08-05 03:10 PM

Both awesome, but I give the edge to X2 for the Wolverine/Deathstrike fight alone.

The Antipodean 09-08-05 03:44 PM

X2. First movie is great until the final half-hour or so, which really blew. I never liked the big Statue of Liberty finale.

Cornelius1047 09-08-05 03:48 PM

X-Men ***1/2 out of *****
X2 ****1/2 out of *****

K

devilshalo 09-08-05 04:19 PM

They were both ok. Didn't like one over the other.


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