Do remakes/sequels ruin your enjoyment of the originals?
07-20-05, 09:02 AM
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Do remakes/sequels ruin your enjoyment of the originals?
If you listen to DVD Talk radio review of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Geoffrey Kleinman and Scott Weinberg debate whether the remake (or rather, the new adaptation of the Dahl novel) could prevent one from watching the 1971 version and enjoying it.
I have differing experiences. For example, if I rewatch Abre los Ojos, I can't help remembering how much I hated Vanilla Sky. But I still enjoy the Scandinavian Insomnia, in spite of the Nolan remake.
Likewise, just watching Highlander makes me roll my eyes at the sheer stupidity of Highlander II. But I have no problem enjoying The Godfather, even though Godfather III sucked.
The very reason I didn't go see Apocalypse now Redux was I thought it could taint my memory of the original irreversibly. But maybe you can watch a bad remake or sequel and pretend it never happened.
I have differing experiences. For example, if I rewatch Abre los Ojos, I can't help remembering how much I hated Vanilla Sky. But I still enjoy the Scandinavian Insomnia, in spite of the Nolan remake.
Likewise, just watching Highlander makes me roll my eyes at the sheer stupidity of Highlander II. But I have no problem enjoying The Godfather, even though Godfather III sucked.
The very reason I didn't go see Apocalypse now Redux was I thought it could taint my memory of the original irreversibly. But maybe you can watch a bad remake or sequel and pretend it never happened.
07-20-05, 09:19 AM
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Uhm, it's not that serious. But then again "Batman Begins" has made me forget the previous "batfilms". As far as I'm concerned they never happened.
Here's an interesting example. Ocean's 11 (60) and the remake Ocean's 11 (01) . I liked them both. But the two movies are totally different from each other with one or two similarities. However, the remake never tarnished my fondness for the original and the original never made me think less of the remake.
Here's an interesting example. Ocean's 11 (60) and the remake Ocean's 11 (01) . I liked them both. But the two movies are totally different from each other with one or two similarities. However, the remake never tarnished my fondness for the original and the original never made me think less of the remake.
07-20-05, 12:37 PM
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The Highlander sequels almost did, but luckily I'd seen and grown to love the first one enough that they didn't bother me too much. I vowed never to watch them again.
07-20-05, 12:41 PM
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No. In fact they simply draw more attention to the originals.
07-20-05, 01:16 PM
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Nope. IF someone happens to make a bad remake or sequel it has no negative affect on my thoughts about the original. Unless of course I think that the sequel or remake is actually better. 
07-20-05, 04:03 PM
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The only time it affects me is if the sequel lessens the effect of the original.
Example: While I still thoughly love Terminator 2, I can't help but feel less emotion while watching it knowing
T3 (which I enjoy as well BTW) completely takes away the suspense and tension of T2 knowing everything that happens was completely worthless in terms of the story.
otherwise No, the enjoyment isn't ruined for me.
Example: While I still thoughly love Terminator 2, I can't help but feel less emotion while watching it knowing
Spoiler:
otherwise No, the enjoyment isn't ruined for me.
07-20-05, 04:24 PM
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I can think of a few movies, unfortunately, that have had so many terrible sequels, I think it's given the series a "black eye" so to speak. I'll still enjoy the original just the same, but now I'm forced to shamefully think of how this great franchise's legacy has been forever tainted.
Some examples:
Alien/Predator: There hasn't been a good one made in almost 20 years. How can two franchises last two decades when each sequel gets worse than the last?
The Pink Panther: Peter Sellers died in 1980, but, amazingly, that hasn't stopped Hollywood from making FOUR more Panther films without him. If the fourth (with Steve Martin) is anything like the other three, I can only assume this is some master plan to cause Peter Sellers to start spinning in his grave, forcing him to reemerge and agree to do another one.
Jaws: The movie that, arguably, created the phenomenon of summer popcorn entertainment, eventually turns into a series best suited for MST3K entertainment.
Star Wars: (No explanation necessary.)
And one that has a hope of making a comeback:
Superman: As if Superman III wasn't embarrassing enough (in what I can only assume was a deliberate attempt to turn Superman into a laughingstock), along came part IV to make III look like "Citizen Kane" by comparison. Hollywood may have gotten its act together with the new one coming out, but I've had my hopes destroyed before so I'm not holding my breath.
Some examples:
Alien/Predator: There hasn't been a good one made in almost 20 years. How can two franchises last two decades when each sequel gets worse than the last?
The Pink Panther: Peter Sellers died in 1980, but, amazingly, that hasn't stopped Hollywood from making FOUR more Panther films without him. If the fourth (with Steve Martin) is anything like the other three, I can only assume this is some master plan to cause Peter Sellers to start spinning in his grave, forcing him to reemerge and agree to do another one.
Jaws: The movie that, arguably, created the phenomenon of summer popcorn entertainment, eventually turns into a series best suited for MST3K entertainment.
Star Wars: (No explanation necessary.)
And one that has a hope of making a comeback:
Superman: As if Superman III wasn't embarrassing enough (in what I can only assume was a deliberate attempt to turn Superman into a laughingstock), along came part IV to make III look like "Citizen Kane" by comparison. Hollywood may have gotten its act together with the new one coming out, but I've had my hopes destroyed before so I'm not holding my breath.
07-20-05, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
After I saw the remake of Dawn of the Dead, I went home, pulled out my disc of the original, kissed it, and said "You're dead to me!"
07-21-05, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by reubs82
I can't even watch the Matrix anymore after Reloaded.
Uncopyable effects, bah.
I still love The Matrix though.
07-21-05, 01:36 PM
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"The Spy who Shagged Me", at least the opening sequence, takes alot away from the first movie.
If i chose to accept that inferior product as a "sequal".
As far as "The Matrix" i really saw no need for a sequal, let alone 2. Wat little i have seen of the sequals didnt interest me enough to wanna see all of them.
If i chose to accept that inferior product as a "sequal".
As far as "The Matrix" i really saw no need for a sequal, let alone 2. Wat little i have seen of the sequals didnt interest me enough to wanna see all of them.
