Gladiator 2 (2024, D: Scott) S: Mescal, Washington
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Crowe keeps up his erratic behavior and he won't have a career.
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It doesn't need a sequel, but big box-office bucks is the bottom line.
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Nick Cave Wanted to Call His ‘Gladiator 2′ Script ‘Christ Killer’
Honestly, I hope this script gets produced some day. It's basically a movie in the mold of the comic book series Preacher.
Leave it to the literate and persistently perverse musician/lyricist/screenwriter Nick Cave to totally upend the basic idea of a Hollywood sequel. (This is the man who, for instance, incarnated his fascination with violent folk songs by tossing out all subtlety on the album Murder Ballads, which among other tunes contains an almost shockingly profane revamp of the song ‘Stagger Lee.’)
You may or may not have heard that Russell Crowe once called up Cave to hire him as a screenwriter for Gladiator 2. Cave had written only one other script at the time, Ghosts… Of the Civil Dead; he’s since written The Proposition and Lawless, among other unproduced scripts. ”Hey Russell, didn’t you die in Gladiator?” asked Cave. Crowe’s response: “Yeah, you sort that out.”
The basic news of Cave writing a Gladiator sequel script surfaced years back, and in fact the script itself has done the internet rounds. (It’s embedded below, and after reading the leadup to it, you’ll want to give it a spin.) Cave recently appeared on Marc Maron’s podcast, and talked at length about that project. That’s the source of the quotes above, and just wait ’till you hear how he sorted things out. Hint: Cave’s solution involved a blend of Roman and Christian religions for a story he wanted to call Christ Killer. Yeah, wonder why that didn’t get made?
The Playlist grabbed some quotes from the podcast, in which Cave explained that the story saw Crowe’s character Maximus resurrected as an immortal being. Says Cave, “[he] goes to purgatory and is sent down by the gods, who are dying in heaven because there’s this one god, there’s this Christ character, down on Earth who is gaining popularity. And so the many gods are dying, and they send Gladiator back to kill Christ and all his followers.”
Thinking about this as the sequel to a studio’s Best Picture winner…. head explode.
Follow that with this info: ”the main guy was [Maximus'] son, so he has to kill his son and he was tricked by the gods. He becomes this eternal warrior and it ends with this 20 minute war scene which follows all the wars in history, right up to Vietnam and all that sort of stuff. And… it was wild.” The last scene of the script, after Maximus was reincarnated over and over again as a force of war, is set in the present day, meeting with suits at the Pentagon. “Stone cold masterpiece” deadpans Cave, describing it all.
There are conflicting stories about who killed the script as a blueprint for the sequel, which never happened at all. Cave says Crowe didn’t like it; Ridley Scott has said Crowe did like it, and it was other forces that buried it. Regardless, the film only exists on paper at this point.
The whole interview is a great listen, and the quotes start in the podcast at around the one hour mark. And here’s the script:
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You may or may not have heard that Russell Crowe once called up Cave to hire him as a screenwriter for Gladiator 2. Cave had written only one other script at the time, Ghosts… Of the Civil Dead; he’s since written The Proposition and Lawless, among other unproduced scripts. ”Hey Russell, didn’t you die in Gladiator?” asked Cave. Crowe’s response: “Yeah, you sort that out.”
The basic news of Cave writing a Gladiator sequel script surfaced years back, and in fact the script itself has done the internet rounds. (It’s embedded below, and after reading the leadup to it, you’ll want to give it a spin.) Cave recently appeared on Marc Maron’s podcast, and talked at length about that project. That’s the source of the quotes above, and just wait ’till you hear how he sorted things out. Hint: Cave’s solution involved a blend of Roman and Christian religions for a story he wanted to call Christ Killer. Yeah, wonder why that didn’t get made?
The Playlist grabbed some quotes from the podcast, in which Cave explained that the story saw Crowe’s character Maximus resurrected as an immortal being. Says Cave, “[he] goes to purgatory and is sent down by the gods, who are dying in heaven because there’s this one god, there’s this Christ character, down on Earth who is gaining popularity. And so the many gods are dying, and they send Gladiator back to kill Christ and all his followers.”
Thinking about this as the sequel to a studio’s Best Picture winner…. head explode.
Follow that with this info: ”the main guy was [Maximus'] son, so he has to kill his son and he was tricked by the gods. He becomes this eternal warrior and it ends with this 20 minute war scene which follows all the wars in history, right up to Vietnam and all that sort of stuff. And… it was wild.” The last scene of the script, after Maximus was reincarnated over and over again as a force of war, is set in the present day, meeting with suits at the Pentagon. “Stone cold masterpiece” deadpans Cave, describing it all.
There are conflicting stories about who killed the script as a blueprint for the sequel, which never happened at all. Cave says Crowe didn’t like it; Ridley Scott has said Crowe did like it, and it was other forces that buried it. Regardless, the film only exists on paper at this point.
The whole interview is a great listen, and the quotes start in the podcast at around the one hour mark. And here’s the script:
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I had thought the original Gladiator 2 script was Russell Crowe's character being resurrected and traveling throughout time and fighting famous historical figures to prove his mightiness, or some shit like that.
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Ridley Scott Moving Forward With ‘Gladiator 2;’ Peter Craig To Write Script For Paramount
https://deadline.com/2018/11/gladiat...al-1202494152/
EXCLUSIVE: While he has been eyeing other projects that include a coming of age Merlin movie at Disney, Ridley Scott has begun forward progress on a sequel to Gladiator, the 2000 film which garnered 11 Oscar nominations and five wins including Best Picture and Best Actor for Russell Crowe. While Crowe’s Maximus character met his end in the classic original film, Gladiator 2 will follow the continuing story of Lucius, the son of Lucilla (Connie Nielsen), The youth was the nephew of Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix), the weaselly son of Roman leader Marcus Aurelius who murdered his father seized the throne and wound up in the gladiator ring with Maximus, who though mortally wounded, skewered the emperor before fading into the great beyond to reunite with his slain wife and son. Maximus saved the boy and his mother while avenging his own family, and left a strong impression on the young Lucius.
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re: Gladiator 2 (2024, D: Scott) S: Mescal, Washington
Lucius is visited by The Engineers who show him how to build synthetics so that they don’t have to use real people in the gladiator arena. The synthetics eventually begin to think they are human and rebel by creating “creatures” to appear in the arena ...
PS — Fuck you Ridley Scott.
PS — Fuck you Ridley Scott.
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After the Prometheus > Alien films connected, Nick Cave's Gladiator script doesn't seem so intangible. Seems like something that could be pulled off in the same vein.
Has there ever been a sequel like that?
Coked-up 80's Hollywood could have pulled it off. Everything has to be so logical and grounded in Kale-Smoothie 2010's Hollywood.
Has there ever been a sequel like that?
Coked-up 80's Hollywood could have pulled it off. Everything has to be so logical and grounded in Kale-Smoothie 2010's Hollywood.
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Gladeuxator
GIADIATOR
GIADIATOR
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Ridley Scott Says Gladiator 2 Will Be ‘Ready To Go’ After Napoleon Movie – Exclusive
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...eon-exclusive/
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...eon-exclusive/
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Ridley Scott Says Gladiator 2 Will Be ‘Ready To Go’ After Napoleon Movie – Exclusive
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...eon-exclusive/
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...eon-exclusive/
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Puck News reports that Scott is now seeking to cast lead actors for a sequel to the film. This will certainly be viewed as welcome news by many who have longed to see a sequel. In the past, other sequels had been suggested with one that did not succeed, proposing a reincarnation of our titular hero at different points throughout history.
News of casting for a sequel of Gladiator should not be too surprising. In 2021, Scott, who hopes to direct the sequel, confirmed that a script for Gladiator 2 was already completed saying, "Oh, it’s been written. It’s already been written. We have a good footprint, a good, logical place to go. You can't just do another Gladiator type movie. You’ve got to follow… there are enough components from the first one to pick up the ball and continue it." News of Scott seeking actors on the back of these previous comments puts the development of the sequel seemingly on the right path.
News of casting for a sequel of Gladiator should not be too surprising. In 2021, Scott, who hopes to direct the sequel, confirmed that a script for Gladiator 2 was already completed saying, "Oh, it’s been written. It’s already been written. We have a good footprint, a good, logical place to go. You can't just do another Gladiator type movie. You’ve got to follow… there are enough components from the first one to pick up the ball and continue it." News of Scott seeking actors on the back of these previous comments puts the development of the sequel seemingly on the right path.
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Great actor.
https://deadline.com/2023/01/gladiat...nt-1235212512/
EXCLUSIVE: Ridley Scott always said he would return to the Colosseum to continue the story of his blockbuster epic Gladiator, and it looks like we are getting close to having that wish granted. Sources tell Deadline that Normal People star Paul Mescal is in negotiations to lead the Paramount sequel to the Oscar-winning pic, with Scott returning to the directing chair. Scott also will produce, along with Scott Free President Michael Pruss as well as Doug Wick & Lucy Fisher via Red Wagon Entertainment. David Scarpa penned the script.
Also returning from the original film are costume designer Janty Yates and production designer Arthur Max. The first film was co-production between Universal and DreamWorks, and while DreamWorks will not be involved in the sequel, Universal has the right to partner again when the project is packaged.
The new film follows the 2000 blockbuster Gladiator, which earned over $460M in worldwide box office and was nominated for 12 Academy Awards, winning five including Best Picture.
The role of Maximus, the Roman general-turned-gladiator, was a career-changer for Russell Crowe when he played the part in the summer of 2000. It not only delivered him a Best Actor Oscar but launched him to the top of every leading-man list, and once it was made clear last year that the sequel would be Scott’s next movie, every male actor in town that fit the profile began chasing the coveted part.
Meetings with Scott for the role began to heat up once a final draft was delivered in November, with Mescal being one of the first to sit down with the director. Although Scott continued to meet with other talent, insiders say it seemed clear to all involved that Mescal clearly was Scott’s top choice following a fantastic meeting between the two. By landing the role, Mescal not only gets to show off the strong range that earned him an Emmy nomination for his work on Normal People but also the physique the industry already had taken notice of that is needed to play the role. Crowe famously put on some serious muscle for the part, and Mescal will look to do the same.
Mescal won’t be replacing Crowe’s Maximus, whose character met his end in the original film, but instead he will be playing Lucius, the son of Lucilla (Connie Nielsen), who now is a grown man as the story takes place years after the first film ended. Lucius also was the nephew of Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix), the son of Roman leader Marcus Aurelius, who murdered his father seized the throne. Commodus wound up in the gladiator ring with Maximus — who, though mortally wounded, skewered the emperor before fading into the great beyond to reunite with his slain wife and son. Maximus saved the boy and his mother while avenging his own family, and left a strong impression on the young Lucius.
Russell Crowe in ‘Gladiator’ Everett Collection
While Scott has hinted at wanting to continue the story going all the way back to when the original was still in theaters, the project gained steam in 2018, when Deadline first broke that Paramount came on to develop. As Scott was finishing up directing another period epic Napoleon — which, coincidentally, reunited him with Crowe’s Gladiator co-star Phoenix, who is playing French Commander Napoleon Bonaparte in that pic — he began to give indications his desire to make Gladiator 2 his next film, and by the end of the summer he indicated to Paramount that it likely would be his next film.
Even after being in development for as long as it has, Paramount’s top brass did everything in their power to make sure this wasn’t just another project that stayed in development purgatory. While Mescal’s deal is not closed, the studio now has its star, and all the hard work signals a return to the arena in a big way for all parties.
Best known his breakout role in the Hulu limited series Normal People, which earned him an Emmy nomination, Mescal hasn’t rushed to find that big studio job but rather his took his time and was particular in the material he went after. That decision has led to a big year for the rising star that included a number of films bowing at the Cannes Film Festival including God’s Creatures. He also has been receiving strong reviews for Aftersun, which is currently a contender this award season.
Next up for him is the Garth Davis pic Foe, which also stars Saorise Ronan. He is repped by CAA and the Curtis Brown Group.
Also returning from the original film are costume designer Janty Yates and production designer Arthur Max. The first film was co-production between Universal and DreamWorks, and while DreamWorks will not be involved in the sequel, Universal has the right to partner again when the project is packaged.
The new film follows the 2000 blockbuster Gladiator, which earned over $460M in worldwide box office and was nominated for 12 Academy Awards, winning five including Best Picture.
The role of Maximus, the Roman general-turned-gladiator, was a career-changer for Russell Crowe when he played the part in the summer of 2000. It not only delivered him a Best Actor Oscar but launched him to the top of every leading-man list, and once it was made clear last year that the sequel would be Scott’s next movie, every male actor in town that fit the profile began chasing the coveted part.
Meetings with Scott for the role began to heat up once a final draft was delivered in November, with Mescal being one of the first to sit down with the director. Although Scott continued to meet with other talent, insiders say it seemed clear to all involved that Mescal clearly was Scott’s top choice following a fantastic meeting between the two. By landing the role, Mescal not only gets to show off the strong range that earned him an Emmy nomination for his work on Normal People but also the physique the industry already had taken notice of that is needed to play the role. Crowe famously put on some serious muscle for the part, and Mescal will look to do the same.
Mescal won’t be replacing Crowe’s Maximus, whose character met his end in the original film, but instead he will be playing Lucius, the son of Lucilla (Connie Nielsen), who now is a grown man as the story takes place years after the first film ended. Lucius also was the nephew of Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix), the son of Roman leader Marcus Aurelius, who murdered his father seized the throne. Commodus wound up in the gladiator ring with Maximus — who, though mortally wounded, skewered the emperor before fading into the great beyond to reunite with his slain wife and son. Maximus saved the boy and his mother while avenging his own family, and left a strong impression on the young Lucius.
Russell Crowe in ‘Gladiator’ Everett Collection
While Scott has hinted at wanting to continue the story going all the way back to when the original was still in theaters, the project gained steam in 2018, when Deadline first broke that Paramount came on to develop. As Scott was finishing up directing another period epic Napoleon — which, coincidentally, reunited him with Crowe’s Gladiator co-star Phoenix, who is playing French Commander Napoleon Bonaparte in that pic — he began to give indications his desire to make Gladiator 2 his next film, and by the end of the summer he indicated to Paramount that it likely would be his next film.
Even after being in development for as long as it has, Paramount’s top brass did everything in their power to make sure this wasn’t just another project that stayed in development purgatory. While Mescal’s deal is not closed, the studio now has its star, and all the hard work signals a return to the arena in a big way for all parties.
Best known his breakout role in the Hulu limited series Normal People, which earned him an Emmy nomination, Mescal hasn’t rushed to find that big studio job but rather his took his time and was particular in the material he went after. That decision has led to a big year for the rising star that included a number of films bowing at the Cannes Film Festival including God’s Creatures. He also has been receiving strong reviews for Aftersun, which is currently a contender this award season.
Next up for him is the Garth Davis pic Foe, which also stars Saorise Ronan. He is repped by CAA and the Curtis Brown Group.