Will new films ever be added to the AFI's top 100 (plus a rant)?
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Originally Posted by j123vt_99
Some maybes:
Finding Nemo
Lord of the Rings
Hotel Rwanda
Million Dollar Baby
Sin City
Finding Nemo
Lord of the Rings
Hotel Rwanda
Million Dollar Baby
Sin City
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One little remark, I dont understand all the LOTR love? I hated those films, and if hate is too strong I just didn't care for them..period.
And I agree. I agree that this kind of attitude has been around since the begining, of basically anything and everything. Every decade claiming their the doomed, the last, the decade that produced nothing worthy of mentioning...until a new one approaches and as they reflect back they realize "those were some of the best times...for everything" I can't wait for this conversation to emurge out of the mouth of someone living in say...2015..Its a cycle alright.
Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Ok, I think I get what you're saying. But Cinema isn't lost. I was just reading an article dated 1959 by John Cassavetes speaking on about how true cinema is dead and everything in Hollywood is churned out like a factory. The point is, that this has been going on forever. Don't worry there are still auteurs out there.
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Originally Posted by Drexl
So, what they could do is, every ten years, add ten films to the list. This would start some time after the end of next year, and the list would be "110 years, 110 films," keeping the average of one film per year.
That said, the only film involving Michael Bay or Vin Diesel with any chance of making such a list (and it is a lock), is Saving Private Ryan.
That said, the only film involving Michael Bay or Vin Diesel with any chance of making such a list (and it is a lock), is Saving Private Ryan.
For what it's worth, I don't see any films mentioned in this thread that are a lock for such a list.
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Originally Posted by RyoHazuki
I can't think of any film made between 2000 and 2005 that I would count as one of the top 100 films ever made.
I think American Beauty would merit consideration and probably be included.
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I couldn't disagree more. Kill Bill and Sin City are not classics now, and won't be in the future. They don't belong on the 100 Greatest American films list. Unless of course you're talking about a list for the next 100 years, and if so, it is far, far too early to be putting films on such a list.
As for LOTR, can it even be classified as an American film considering it was made in New Zealand, by a non-American director? Or do they consider it an American film if it was funded and released by an American film studio?
As for LOTR, can it even be classified as an American film considering it was made in New Zealand, by a non-American director? Or do they consider it an American film if it was funded and released by an American film studio?
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Originally Posted by Terrell
As for LOTR, can it even be classified as an American film considering it was made in New Zealand, by a non-American director? Or do they consider it an American film if it was funded and released by an American film studio?
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20 of my favorites since 2000:
25th Hour - Spike Lee
Closer - Mike Nichols
Collateral - Michael Mann
Donnie Darko - Richard Kelly
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry
Kill Bill - Quentin Tarantino
Memento - Christopher Nolan
Panic Room - David Fincher
Phone Booth - Joel Schumacher
Punch-Drunk Love - Paul Thomas Anderson
Requiem For A Dream - Darren Aronofsky
Serenity - Joss Whedon
Sideways - Alexander Payne
Sin City - Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller
Spider-Man - Sam Raimi
Spider-Man 2 - Sam Raimi
The Aviator - Martin Scorsese
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou - Wes Anderson
The Royal Tenenbaums - Wes Anderson
Unbreakable - M. Night Shyamalan
25th Hour - Spike Lee
Closer - Mike Nichols
Collateral - Michael Mann
Donnie Darko - Richard Kelly
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind - Michel Gondry
Kill Bill - Quentin Tarantino
Memento - Christopher Nolan
Panic Room - David Fincher
Phone Booth - Joel Schumacher
Punch-Drunk Love - Paul Thomas Anderson
Requiem For A Dream - Darren Aronofsky
Serenity - Joss Whedon
Sideways - Alexander Payne
Sin City - Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller
Spider-Man - Sam Raimi
Spider-Man 2 - Sam Raimi
The Aviator - Martin Scorsese
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou - Wes Anderson
The Royal Tenenbaums - Wes Anderson
Unbreakable - M. Night Shyamalan
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The answer: Cure ADD. Incorporate more cerebral processing in school and youth today would not need constant flash, bash, and crash (not refering to the film), to feed their need for instant feedback. Teach about how plot thickens and slowly oozes forward until it climaxes at the end of the film. Like in books. Some schools here in the US have gone to comicbooks in order to try to capture the students attention while reading. Well, where do we go from here? Well, reading comic books can be a great beginning, but hopefully not a substitute for thinking and processesing information, which requires time and contemplation. Hopefully, we soon realize that there are no silver bullet. Only time and politicians will tell... I better stop here or I will diverge in a different direction.
On the other hand in regards to films from the 2000 to 2005. There are numerous great films coming out from all over the world. Barry Woodward have a decent English speaking list with a few exceptions, but that is only my opinion.
On the other hand in regards to films from the 2000 to 2005. There are numerous great films coming out from all over the world. Barry Woodward have a decent English speaking list with a few exceptions, but that is only my opinion.
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American Beauty
Almost Famous
Fargo
Finding Nemo
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
The Shawshank Redemption
those are a few i'd add to the list.
Almost Famous
Fargo
Finding Nemo
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
The Shawshank Redemption
those are a few i'd add to the list.
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Originally Posted by jpdude
American Beauty
Almost Famous
Fargo
Finding Nemo
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
The Shawshank Redemption
those are a few i'd add to the list.
Almost Famous
Fargo
Finding Nemo
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
The Shawshank Redemption
those are a few i'd add to the list.
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Didn't Kubrick make all of his films in England?
Of course, they could count any film funded by an American studio as an American film. I'm just pointing out that LOTR is a film based on an book written by a non-American, and directed by a New Zealander. Just asking what is the criteria for a film to be an American film?
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From filmsite.org:
Judging criteria for the selection process of the Top 100 films included:
Feature-Length Fiction Film - narrative format typically over 60 minutes in length
American Film - English language film with significant creative and/or financial production elements from the United States
Critical Recognition - formal commendation in print
Popularity Over Time - including figures for box office adjusted for inflation, television broadcasts and syndication, and home video sales and rentals
Historical Significance - a film's mark on the history of the moving image through technical innovation, visionary narrative devices or other groundbreaking achievements
Cultural Impact - a film's mark on American society in matters of style and substance
Major Award Winner - recognition from competitive events including awards from organizations in the film community and major film festivals
Judging criteria for the selection process of the Top 100 films included:
Feature-Length Fiction Film - narrative format typically over 60 minutes in length
American Film - English language film with significant creative and/or financial production elements from the United States
Critical Recognition - formal commendation in print
Popularity Over Time - including figures for box office adjusted for inflation, television broadcasts and syndication, and home video sales and rentals
Historical Significance - a film's mark on the history of the moving image through technical innovation, visionary narrative devices or other groundbreaking achievements
Cultural Impact - a film's mark on American society in matters of style and substance
Major Award Winner - recognition from competitive events including awards from organizations in the film community and major film festivals
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Just asking what is the criteria for a film to be an American film?
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I really don't know much about cinema outside of liking what I like (including Micheal Bay and Vin Diesel movies), but I can see Eternal Sunshine standing the test of time.
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Originally Posted by RogueScribner
Post-1996, some contenders could be Titanic, L.A. Confidential, Saving Private Ryan, Fight Club, The Matrix, The Fellowship of the Ring, etc.
with regards to sin city, i think people should stop to ask, does a movie that's 'different' immediately place itself in the annals of the best movies ever made?