Jabba must have been pretty powerful
There’s a possible plot hole with hiding Luke in Tattooine. Why hide Luke in Vader’s former home planet in the home of his step brother where his mother used to live. Isn’t it a bit like someone in witness protection program hiding in his cousin’s house?
I guess Jabba must have been a pretty powerful “human being”. The trade federation never had access Tattooine (which is why they chose to temporarily hide there in ep I), the old republic had no influence there (which is why you could have slaves there), AND it must have been relatively free from the Empire’s grip. Cause for Obi Wan and Yoda to put Luke with Anakin’s quasi family in his former home planet, they must have relied on the control of Jabba. Better to be in a planet under Jabba’s wing than one where the Empire would have 110% access to, since Jabba would never be looking for Luke. |
Ok. But why did you call Jabba a "human being"?
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Originally Posted by Mopower
Ok. But why did you call Jabba a "human being"?
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Don't you know the Hutts are gangsters. Duh.
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I think the answer is pretty obvious here. Darth Vader did not know his kid(s) survived. He thinks they are dead. He only becomes aware of Luke because 1) he sees how strong the force is in him during ANH and 2)Palpy tells him that Luke is his son in ESB.
Why would he look for his son on Tatooine if he didn't even know of his existance. Not to mention that Owen isn't even a true Skywalker and is just a lowly farmer. |
Vader realizes that Luke is his son before ESB, that's why he's pursuing Luke with everything he got. There's a discussion on how Vader got the information on Luke's identity somewhere on this forum. But besides that, I think the explanation is quite accurate.
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Tatooine is on the far reaches of the galaxy, and ignored by the Republic/Empire. In addition, I would think that it would be the LAST place that Vader would ever want to go... bad memories, and not exactly a tourist attraction.
Coupled with the fact that Vader has no clue that he has a son, I think hiding Luke there seems to make a good amount of sense. |
It has bad memories for him. It's where he was born anakin, it was where he was a slave and it's where his mother was killed. I'm sure visiting tatooine would be a terrible reminder of who he used to be. That's why he would never go there and considering the empire has very little reach there (just enough to drop a hand full of storm troopers) they have no real business there. So Jabba bask in that freedom to run his business.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
It has bad memories for him. It's where he was born anakin, it was where he was a slave and it's where his mother was killed.
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There's just some topics that he doesn't touch.
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Originally Posted by RoyalTea
but if the dark side of the force comes through fear and agression, wouldn't it be the perfect place for Vader to frequently visit?
Remember, in the OT, it's the only planet he goes down to personally. Hoth, Bespin and Endor he all goes down to. |
Originally Posted by bboisvert
Tatooine is on the far reaches of the galaxy, and ignored by the Republic/Empire. In addition, I would think that it would be the LAST place that Vader would ever want to go... bad memories, and not exactly a tourist attraction.
Coupled with the fact that Vader has no clue that he has a son, I think hiding Luke there seems to make a good amount of sense. |
Tattooine is free from all those organizations due to it's location. it's out on the edge of the galaxy, while coruscant is close to the center so the two gov'ts just never extended resources out that far to exert control. plus it's a desert with not much in the way of resources
the hutts moved in due to it's location. being far from the center of gov't allowed for criminal activity to go on unmolested by police/military forces the deleted luke/biggs scenes go into this a bit more too and mention that eventually the empire will extend its regulation to tatooine and owen will become just a slave to their (empire's) taxation biggs also mentions not waiting to be drafted into service, which helps support the idea that not all stormtroopers are clones cutscene video is here http://www.starwarscutscenes.com/episode4/Biggs.html |
Organizations? Jabba? Gangsters? You guys are making this 100x more complicated than it is.
Originally Posted by Goat3001
I think the answer is pretty obvious here. Darth Vader did not know his kid(s) survived. He thinks they are dead.
And just to be clear, even if he knew his offspring survived, he still would only have been looking for 1. The fact that Padme carried twins was not known until the medical droid announced it during Padme's labor. Anakin has NO CLUE there were 2 until ROTJ. |
but, do the good guys know that vader and palpatine think the kid wasn't born?
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
but, do the good guys know that vader and palpatine think the kid wasn't born?
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
but, do the good guys know that vader and palpatine think the kid wasn't born?
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
but, do the good guys know that vader and palpatine think the kid wasn't born?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Exactly. Hide him in the LAST place he would ever look.
PT: Last 2 Sith hidden OT: Last 2 Jedi hidden Sometimes the best place to hide something is in the most obvious place. Vader will probably not think to go back to Tatooine and who would guess Bail has Leia on Alderaan? |
Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I agree. The stories of the PT and OT mirror each other in that the Jedi take a page right from the Sith, as far as the rule of two goes.
PT: Last 2 Sith hidden OT: Last 2 Jedi hidden Sometimes the best place to hide something is in the most obvious place. Vader will probably not think to go back to Tatooine and who would guess Bail has Leia on Alderaan? Plus, one of the Sith (Palpatine) was hidden in "plain sight" -- the Senate. And one of Anakin's kids (Leia) was hidden in "plain sight" -- the Senate. Most excellent. |
Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I agree. The stories of the PT and OT mirror each other in that the Jedi take a page right from the Sith, as far as the rule of two goes.
PT: Last 2 Sith hidden OT: Last 2 Jedi hidden |
Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Isn't "last 2" a little superfluous when talking about the Sith? weren't there always just two? A master and an apprentice?
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But were there really just 2 sith? Where does Maul fit in? Dooku seems like he has been around a while, not just popped up after TPM.
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Perhaps Dooku wasn’t an apprentice before Maul?
Also, Obi Wan and Yoda weren’t necessarily the last 2 Jedi. Maybe the last 2 well known Jedi. But there were more through out the galaxy. |
Dooku was a Jedi when Darth Maul was around. He was just disgruntled with the council and left the order.
The EU stuff (mentioned in other threads here) says he went off with the intention of destroying Sidious, but ended up turning to the dark side and becoming his new apprentice. |
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