Why was Leia's mom sad alot?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Wow. 23 posts before this is finally posted. It is exactly what I was going to bring up. I agree and believe this 100%. No continuity error at all.
This IS a Star Wars forum though, I guess the majority here don't have kids.
This IS a Star Wars forum though, I guess the majority here don't have kids.
2) she wasnt sad until the last couple days of her life
3) luke didnt magically see her sad from the womb
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For those who think Leai sensed Padme in the womb: why wouldn't Luke have sensed the same thing? He would have the same memory Leia had.
Hell, why we're on it, the whole idea of Leia being Luke's sister is lame anyway. She never showed an inkling of "Force" ability, and wouldn't Vader have sensed the Force in her? He was able to sense everyone else (Kenobi, Luke in the Death Star battle, Luke in Shuttle, etc.)
Hell, why we're on it, the whole idea of Leia being Luke's sister is lame anyway. She never showed an inkling of "Force" ability, and wouldn't Vader have sensed the Force in her? He was able to sense everyone else (Kenobi, Luke in the Death Star battle, Luke in Shuttle, etc.)
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For those who think Leai sensed Padme in the womb: why wouldn't Luke have sensed the same thing? He would have the same memory Leia had.
Hell, why we're on it, the whole idea of Leia being Luke's sister is lame anyway. She never showed an inkling of "Force" ability, and wouldn't Vader have sensed the Force in her? He was able to sense everyone else (Kenobi, Luke in the Death Star battle, Luke in Shuttle, etc.)
Hell, why we're on it, the whole idea of Leia being Luke's sister is lame anyway. She never showed an inkling of "Force" ability, and wouldn't Vader have sensed the Force in her? He was able to sense everyone else (Kenobi, Luke in the Death Star battle, Luke in Shuttle, etc.)
As to trying to piece it all together now for better or for worse, maybe Leia has a different gift of the Force that permitted her to sense Padme from the womb while Luke's gift of the Force made him focus on different things. It's all theory at this point, really.
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Originally Posted by twikoff
1) its a huge stretch
2) she wasnt sad until the last couple days of her life
3) luke didnt magically see her sad from the womb
2) she wasnt sad until the last couple days of her life
3) luke didnt magically see her sad from the womb
2.) You don't think Padme was up nights worried about her husband out on missions where he could be killed? I'm sure that would bring a few tears to a wife. What about being frightened at the fact of hiding the pregnancy for 9 months and the consequences if it came to light she was married to a Jedi? What about having the burden of knowing your husband slaughtered an entire tribe of people? Men, women AND children? You don't think she might have been a bit worried about him being a father?
3.) Even thought this is SW, Luke is still a guy. Guys remember jack shit.
But like above, any guess is as good as any other. Maybe Leia was more atuned to the force as a youngling, but it fell by the wayside, going without training and practice. Maybe Luke wasn't adept at all and had to work harder at it. No different than math. For some the force may come easy, others have to work at it harder.
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Luke was trained, Leia never was. Perhaps if it were Leia on Tatooine and Luke in Alderaan then Luke would have been forceless. Bottom line is there’s obviously SOME force in her but it’s under developed, cause Yoda says she’s another hope. But Obi Wan and Yoda both chose Luke as the primary hope cause they thought he was stronger.
Also, at the end of ROTJ Leia tells Han says she “feels” Luke is ok and got out. So she has some residue. Maybe it’s that residue that allowed her to remember the “feelings” from Padme. Padme was sad most of the time she was pregnant because of the war and obviously Anakin turning.
Also, at the end of ROTJ Leia tells Han says she “feels” Luke is ok and got out. So she has some residue. Maybe it’s that residue that allowed her to remember the “feelings” from Padme. Padme was sad most of the time she was pregnant because of the war and obviously Anakin turning.
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
Be careful Jack...you might fall over if you keep reaching so far.
Why can't a flub be called a flub?
Why can't a flub be called a flub?
and you nitpickers aren't stretching? From the force being split because twins are born to C3PO not knowning there has been a lot of nit picking for every little scene that some of you folks could be called Plastic man.
It's not to hard to believe that she is getting some images the same way those jedi's see the past/present/future in force visions. She is seeing Padme in the final days. She didn't have to be there viewing it. Much like Luke doesn't have to be there to see his friends in pain or how anakin doesn't have to be at the birth to see that she dies.
The Force offers a Deus ex Machina to explain any of those "flubs". Much like answering "it was wizards", in an event of star wars, it's easy to just say it was the Force. nuff said.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Not really.
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
The Force offers a Deus ex Machina to explain any of those "flubs". Much like answering "it was wizards", in an event of star wars, it's easy to just say it was the Force. nuff said.
just like lucy lawless as xena on the simpsons episodes.. with the group of nerds asking her questions about all the inaccuracies, and she blamed everything on wizards (even before they could finish asking the questions)
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Originally Posted by twikoff
whats your earliest childhood memory?
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I had a dream about being born once, but that's not what I'd call a memory. My earliest memory is about 2 years old, when my Grandmother died.
most of our early *memories*, come from stories and pictures
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Originally Posted by twikoff
whats your earliest childhood memory?
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
see Jack's post above yours.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Not really.
2.) You don't think Padme was up nights worried about her husband out on missions where he could be killed? I'm sure that would bring a few tears to a wife. What about being frightened at the fact of hiding the pregnancy for 9 months and the consequences if it came to light she was married to a Jedi? What about having the burden of knowing your husband slaughtered an entire tribe of people? Men, women AND children? You don't think she might have been a bit worried about him being a father?
3.) Even thought this is SW, Luke is still a guy. Guys remember jack shit.
But like above, any guess is as good as any other. Maybe Leia was more atuned to the force as a youngling, but it fell by the wayside, going without training and practice. Maybe Luke wasn't adept at all and had to work harder at it. No different than math. For some the force may come easy, others have to work at it harder.
2.) You don't think Padme was up nights worried about her husband out on missions where he could be killed? I'm sure that would bring a few tears to a wife. What about being frightened at the fact of hiding the pregnancy for 9 months and the consequences if it came to light she was married to a Jedi? What about having the burden of knowing your husband slaughtered an entire tribe of people? Men, women AND children? You don't think she might have been a bit worried about him being a father?
3.) Even thought this is SW, Luke is still a guy. Guys remember jack shit.
But like above, any guess is as good as any other. Maybe Leia was more atuned to the force as a youngling, but it fell by the wayside, going without training and practice. Maybe Luke wasn't adept at all and had to work harder at it. No different than math. For some the force may come easy, others have to work at it harder.
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All Lucas had to do was have Leia born FIRST. I was actually surprised while watching ROTS that the first baby was Luke, BECAUSE of that very scene in ROTJ. I figured Padme would get to hold Leia for a moment and then would die while delivering Luke.
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Originally Posted by twikoff
whats your earliest childhood memory?
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
anyone that says they can remember when they were a baby, is smoking crack.. anyone that says they can remember being in the womb, should be locked up..
while you might be able to get some feeling from your surroundings while in the womb.. you would have no lasting memories of it.
Two comments. 1)Please create your own 9 billion dollar grossing scifiction master piece and 2) how did you get elected vice president of otterville?
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Originally Posted by JohnDoeUSA
BREAKING NEWS...........THIS JUST IN..............STAR WARS IS MADE UP AND DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PERFECT FOR PEOPLE TO LOVE IT.................
Two comments. 1)Please create your own 9 billion dollar grossing scifiction master piece and 2) how did you get elected vice president of otterville?
Two comments. 1)Please create your own 9 billion dollar grossing scifiction master piece and 2) how did you get elected vice president of otterville?
hold on...THAT'S NOT TRUE, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!
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Originally Posted by JohnDoeUSA
BREAKING NEWS...........THIS JUST IN..............STAR WARS IS MADE UP AND DOES NOT HAVE TO BE PERFECT FOR PEOPLE TO LOVE IT.................
Two comments. 1)Please create your own 9 billion dollar grossing scifiction master piece and 2) how did you get elected vice president of otterville?
Two comments. 1)Please create your own 9 billion dollar grossing scifiction master piece and 2) how did you get elected vice president of otterville?
but doesnt mean we cant point out the mistakes.. isnt that the point of the internet
1) will you loan me the first 120 million it takes to produce one of these? please wire it to my offshore account.. thanks!
2) try doing a search in otterville
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Originally Posted by twikoff
2) try doing a search in otterville
Paging all women!
Who are you
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Originally Posted by Class316
It's possible that Luke ASSUMED it would be their mother. But when he asked she didn't know they were sisters, so she talked about her "mother" as in Mrs. Organa.
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Just say that it was baby Leia somehow tapped into the Force and could sense her mother's feelings it was strong enough she remembered it.
An all mystical force that controls everything? Check.
Clone army? Check.
Droid army? Check.
Green muppet w/ a lightsaber? Check.
Light Side and Dark Side? Check.
Jedi or Sith? Check.
Sensing death from across the galaxy? Check.
A "death star" that can blow up planets? Check.
Villian surviving a lava bath? Check.
A baby sensing it's mother in the womb through the force? Totally un-fucking-believable.