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Old 04-27-05, 08:46 AM
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Kevin Smith Reviews ROTS! (Spoilers in review)

Kevin Smith has seen ROTS! He says it's a thousand times darker than Empire!

Warning, their's spoilers in his review, I just read the first bit and the last bit. Don't want to be spoiled too much.

http://viewaskew.com/theboard/viewtopic.php?t=32494

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Old 04-27-05, 09:25 AM
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(I think a lot more people would read this thread if KS was in the title: "Kevin Smith Reviews ROTS")

This link is working a lot faster to me
http://www.newsaskew.com/blog/?m=20050425

“Revenge of the Sith” is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the “Star Wars” prequel the haters have been bitching for since “Menace” came out, and if they don’t cop to that when they finally see it, they’re lying. As dark as “Empire” was, this movie goes a thousand times darker



edit: fixed URL

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Old 04-27-05, 09:36 AM
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Great review. It reminded me of when I got to see a screening of Batman about a month before it came out. My friend's grandparents owned a drive-in theater so he got to use their invitation for the owner's screening. It was a bunch of old, stone faced men and the two of us, clapping and yelling.
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Nice.

Just over three weeks, just over three weeks.
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None of the links work for me.
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Yeah, the amount of views the site allows has hit it's limit.
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Do i get to post my *second* review next week? hahaha
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Can't someone copy and paste it here when the site comes back up?
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Old 04-27-05, 03:41 PM
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The 2nd link should read

http://www.newsaskew.com/blog/?m=20050425

This one works.
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Originally Posted by noonan4224
The 2nd link should read

http://www.newsaskew.com/blog/?m=20050425

This one works.
Fixed mine, thanks. It was posted as the 27th because that's when he posted it, but it was moved to the 25th sometime this afternoon because that's the day in question.
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Pasted for the lazy folk.

SPOILERS

“Revenge of the Sith” is, quite simply, fucking awesome. This is the “Star Wars” prequel the haters have been bitching for since “Menace” came out, and if they don’t cop to that when they finally see it, they’re lying. As dark as “Empire” was, this movie goes a thousand times darker - from the triggering of Order 66 (which has all the Shock Troopers turning on the Jedi Knights they’ve been fighting beside throughout the Clone Wars and gunning them down), to the jaw-dropping Anakin/Obi Wan fight on Mustafar (where - after cutting his legs and arm off, Ben leaves Skywalker burning alive on the shores of a lava river, with Anakin spitting venomous sentiments at his departing mentor), this flick is so satisfyingly tragic, you’ll think you’re watching “Othello” or “Hamlet”.

I saw a gorgeous digitally projected version of the flick, and lemme tell ya’: this is a beautiful looking film. The opening space battle sequence is the best in any of the six “Star Wars” movies. Grievous and Kenobi’s lightsaber duel is bad-ass, with Grievous rocking four sabers. The Clone Wars end rather early in the flick (about the halfway point), leaving the rest of the film to concentrate on Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side, and the resulting slaughter of the Jedi.

Perfect example of how dark shit gets: remember the Younglings - the kid Jedis in training from “Clones”? As a result of Order 66, when Anakin invades the Jedi Temple with an army of Clone Troopers, he enters the Council room to find a gaggle of said younglings hiding behind the seats. They see Anakin and emerge, asking “What should we do, Master Anakin?” The query’s met with a stone-cold Anakin firing up his lightsaber. The next time you see the kids, Yoda’s sifting through their corpses on the floor.

Yes, it’s just that dark - and rightfully so. This is the birth of Darth Vader we’re talking about. The only comic moments in the flick are given to R2D2, and while good, they’re all pretty few and far between; the order of the day is dark, dark, dark.

Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor steal the show, but Hayden Christensen silences any naysayers who wrote him off as too whiney in “Clones”. This is the flick that feels closest to Episodes 4, 5, and 6, because - for the first time since “Return of the Jedi” - there is a clear villain. And for all the shadow-play Palpatine has been upto in the last two flicks, his treachery is about as subtle as John Williams’ score in “Sith.” Whether he’s slowly drawing Anakin toward the Dark Side during an opera/performance art piece with his promise of the Sith’s power of life over death, or he’s engaged in a balls-to-the-wall lightsaber duel in the Senate with Yoda, his “Little, green friend” (his words, not mine - which I kinda dug, because, interestingly, I think it’s the first time anyone’s acknowledged that Yoda is green in any of the “Star Wars” flicks), this is the Emperor’s movie.

The last fifteen minutes dovetail nicely into Episode 4 (or just plain “Star Wars” for you non-geeks), and the movie is full of link-up moments as well.

- At flick’s end, Threepio and Artoo are given to Captain Antilles (with the caveat that the Protocol’s memory be wiped).

- The twins, natch, are split up. Leia heads to Alderann with Bail Organa, and Obi Wan hands Luke over to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru (indeed, the closing shot is Owen holding Luke while looking out over the setting suns of Tatooine - mimicking the shot of the adult Luke doing the same in “Star Wars”, complete with callback cue from Williams).

- After he succumbs to the Dark Side, Anakin tries to convine Padme that he can overthrow Palpatine, and together, he and Padme can rule the galaxy as husband and wife.

- Vader and the Emperor stand beside a younger Grand Moff Tarkin on the bridge of a Star Destroyer, overlooking the earliest construction stage of the Death Star.

- Yoda telling Obi Wan that, as he heads to Tatooine to hand over Luke and go into exile, that he should spend his time learning to commune with those who’ve crossed over to the next stage of life, as Yoda maintains he’s been doing with Qui Gon (and Ben will later do with both Luke and Yoda, in “Empire” and “Jedi”).

- And, hands-down, the best link-up to “Star Wars” moment that I enjoyed the most: Bail Organa and Yoda stepping into the hallway of the Rebel Blockade Runner that opened “Star Wars”. Unlike all the high-tech CGI wizardry of the rest of the prequel Trilogy, this is a low-tech looking set, right out of circa ‘77, and for some reason, it really captured my imagination. I mean, this is the same exact hallway in which we got our first look at Vader, oh so many years ago, and I appreciated the hell out of Mr. Lucas including it - because it really felt like a nod to the hardcores.

Look, this is a movie I was genetically predisposed to love. I remember being eight years old, and reading in “Starlog” that Darth Vader became the half-man/half-machine he was following a duel with Ben Kenobi that climaxed with Vader falling into molten lava. Now, twenty six years later, I finally got to see that long-promised battled - and it lived up to any expectation I still held. I was sad to see the flick end, but happy to know it’s not the end of the “Star Wars” universe entirely (I’ve read stuff about a TV show…).

“Sith” doesn’t happen; “Sith” rules.
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just bought my tickets..... i cant wait... bring on the sith
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Awesome.

Cannot wait for this movie!
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I don't understand why everything has to be considered "dark" when it comes to Star Wars. The original trilogy wasn't "dark".
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I don't understand why everything has to be considered "dark" when it comes to Star Wars. The original trilogy wasn't "dark".
It comes from the fact that Empire is pretty much considered the "best" Star Wars film so far. And the biggest thing Empire has going for it is that it's a "dark" movie.
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This sucks b/c my hopes are so high right now that there is no way that this movie can meet them.
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This sucks b/c my hopes are so high right now that there is no way that this movie can meet them.
I'm doing pretty good at keeping my hopes down.

I was very dissapointed with TPM, kept my hopes down for AOTC and liked it much more.

With ROTS I'm just expecting AOTC with much more action and less cheesy, poorly delivered dialogue due to the subject matter and Lucas getting a dialogue/acting coach this time.
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I'm doing pretty good at keeping my hopes down.
Do you mind telling me how you are doing this? Other than the history of the last two movies, from what I have seen of ROTS so far (which is way too much) I don't see how this movie can't be awesome.
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Do you mind telling me how you are doing this? Other than the history of the last two movies, from what I have seen of ROTS so far (which is way too much) I don't see how this movie can't be awesome.
No kidding. There has to be flogging involved, because everything I've seen thus far looks like a fanboy's wet dream.
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Do you mind telling me how you are doing this? Other than the history of the last two movies, from what I have seen of ROTS so far (which is way too much) I don't see how this movie can't be awesome.
From all the pics and short clips I've seen I do have a good feeling the action scenes will be impressive. I was impressed with many of the action scenes in TPM and AOTC (mainly the Lightsaber battles). But cool action scenes is not why even a comparatively dated looking movie like Episode IV is still considered one of the best of the Series. From Princess Leia to the Jawas it was the characters that made the Original so memorable to people beyond the typical Sci-Fi geek. Its the wooden acting, cringe inducing dialog, CGI that still looks like a step above Pixar animation, and the fact that I'm not emotionally invested in the characters like the Original Trilogy means I will probably care less about what happens in Episode III. I'll care though. Its Star Wars of course. Episode I and II was all setup for Episode III and I don't feel as connected to any of the characters compared to the way I felt about the characters after the first 30 min. of Episode IV. Look at all the promotions by Cingular and M&M; they all refer to Original Trilogy characters. Why?

I hope I'm wrong I really do. I like so many others am hoping Episode III will be as universally loved as Episode IV and V. Episode III is the SW movie EVERYONE has been waiting for since Return of the Jedi.

Hopefully, I doubt we'll hear anymore whining out of the mouth of Anakin Skywalker. Ironically, its the Dark Side that will cure him of that.

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I think I've just accepted that I'll never like any of the prequels as well as the originals, where as going into TPM I was expecting them to be better due to the technology advances.

Maybe ROTS will shock me, but I don't have my hopes up. I'm just going in expecting it to be the best of the PT and not on par with the OT or some of my other favortie movies.
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