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Old 04-10-05, 10:55 PM
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Couple Questions about Closer

Ok, I have a few questions about the timeline in Closer. When we first see Jude Law and Julia Roberts together, Jude Law is well into his relationship with Natalie Portman. And Jude wants Julia but she says she's married but separated to a "very english fellow". First question: Is she talking about Clive Owen? I'm just a little confused we see Jude Law chat online with Clive Owen and Jude is smoking. I assume this means that this actually the first event in the timeline because right in the beginning when he meets Natalie he says he quit. And another question about the movie when Clive Owen comes back to see Julia Roberts and she tells him she cheated on him, he says he cheated on her with "some whore" while in New York. Is he talking about Natalie Portman? I didn't realize this movie was so out of order.
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She wasn't married to Owen which is why Law calls her twice a divorcee toward the end of the film.

Law went back to smoking in the chat room scene.

The only flashback is when Owen convinces Roberts to have sex with him one last time in exchange for signing the divorce papers.

Owen hadn't slept with Portman until after the strip club scene.
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Ah I see. Ok that's kinda what I originally thought. But I thought it was too coincidental that Clive Owen played some very english like his wife's ex and then Natalie Portman was actually from NY too.
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i just saw this and loved it.

but anyway I have some questions to add: SPOILERS

Is there any significance to Natalie's character taking the name ALice Ayers from the gravestone? Why lie about her name?

At the end when Natalie walks down the street in New York is it supposed to imply that she gets hit by another car? The shot pans up to reveal the streetlight is red.
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It's been quite awhile since I've seen the film version, but in the original play by Marber, Portman's character is indeed struck and killed by a cab. This aspect is completely absent from the film, and I 'believe' I recall reading that either Marber or Nichols...hell, perhaps it was both in collaboration, I simply don't remember, decided to change the ending for the adaptation. Although, as noted, her character being struck is still left somewhat implied.

The significance of the seemingly 'random' name she chooses to use is more a writers conceit. The connection is fleshed out better in the play once you understand who the real Alice Ayers was. In this sense, it's easy to discern that it was deliberately chosen by Barber.

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