Buttmunker

Grady was the caretaker in 1970. But, when he appears to Jack Torrance, he's a waiter.

(sorry to add to your confusion.)

flyingbee22

Seems to me that this person's answer is totally different then everybody elses and seems to be incorrect. How could Jack previously be at the hotel?

sundog

The is answer is different, because it's right! Heh. Actually a review I came across a while ago had an interesting correlation to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

paraphrased:
"If god can be a giant black slab, then why can't the devil be a bartender named Lloyd?"

Think of the Overlook as kind of a complement to the "hotel room" in 2001. It's a vestige of time and memory that reflects the beings inside it. So is Jack doing all the Shining in a loop? I really don't know where I can go with this. But I do think that Kubrick deliberately creates holes to bring doubt about the sequence of events and their significance. It's like a great big melting pot of concsciousness.

But I can't provide any concrete answers.

sherm42

I think Kubrick messed it up. Sorry to bash the film, but it really does not do justice to the source material. If you truly want to delve into meaning behind the Overlook, I strongly urge you to read the book. It's so much scarier than the movie.

Johnny Zhivago

This thread is proof positive of what I pointed out here > http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=270013

ALL Kubrick films have multiple interpretations based on the individual... It's up to you to find the answers for yourself.

sundog

I've read the book, and at times it has scarier moments than the Kubrick film. In fact, the first half of Full Metal Jacket is scarier than anything in The Shining movie. But I also think Kubrick distances his film far enough away that the scare is not the meat of the film. Just as The Shining novel is very indicative of King's style of writing, the film is a more obvious example of Kubrick's own pet themes: dehumanization, breakdown of systems, duality and doubling etc.

Two different animals, and in respect to each artist's work, I try not to glean clues from one to clarify the other.

TCG

Kubrick's version is better than King's.

flyingbee: do a search for the shining. here's some good sites.
http://www.drummerman.net/shining/
http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/h...g/shining.html
http://www.houseofhorrors.com/shining.htm

Pants

I love how it's his favorite movie but his questions reveal he understands almost none of it. Wonder why he likes it?

Josh-da-man

1. It's like a nightmare. And it's scary. The hotel is supposed to be evil and haunted.

2. Because the Overlook's evil increased with Jack's madness.

3. Maybe a bit of both.

4. Because it's symbolic of the hotel's evil claiming him. Was he actually there? I guess that's a mystery to which we will never know the answer.

5. ?

IIG

His questions don't reveal that at all, IMO. I think he has a grasp on the underlying story that's taking place in The Shining, and can appreciate the acting, great scenery, direction, etc. of the film. More than enough to declare that something is your favorite film of a given genre I think. It is Kubrick, so it can be confusing however. I just think that it is natural to be able to appreciate a film without understanding every single bit of it, but he seems to understand what is important.

Seantn

What state, city, etc...does the Shining take place in? I know it was filmed in Colorado, but do they ever mention where the film actually takes place?

I've been curious, thanks for any replies. I love this movie.

Rival11

http://oregon.pacificnorthwestmovies.com/TheShining/

woofman

The link says it all. I've been to the Timberline Lodge at Mt. Hood and it is awesome. Great snowboarding, and a beautiful lodge/hotel. I'd love to stay there overnight and hike to the top of the mountain in the summer. I ate at the restaurant and it was exceptional. They were serving red rum casserole.

Here's another great website for the lodge:

www.timberlinelodge.com


This is what it looked like when I was there.

Seantn

Thanks Rival. So does it take place in Oregon, or was it just filmed there?

Rival11

Just filmed there......I haven't seen the film in a while but to my knowledge it takes place in Colorado - I think I'm right, but knwoing my track record........I'm prob. wrong.

majorjoe23

Sidewinder, Colorado is where it takes place.

Big Worms

I believe Stephen King's version actually was filmed at Estes Park, CO. in the actual hotel that the first version was supposed to be refering to. Stanley Hotel.

Max Bottomtime

http://imdb.com/title/tt0081505/locations

Colorado, Montana, Oregon, New Hampshire, California and England.

renaldow

Yeah, keep in mind only the exteriors were shot at Timberline, not the interiors. I'm not sure what you mean by 'Where it takes place in' because what nobody has said is it actually is supposed to take place at the Overlook Hotel in CO.

Alien Redrum

The miniseries was shot at the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park.

I know they did some interiors for the mini-series at the Stanley, too.

Unfortunately, I didn't see a "mini-Stanley" on the grounds. Or the hedge animals.

Big Worms

But the exterior was not the Stanley Hotel.

Numanoid

I think that's correct. If I recall, they mention the "road to Sidwinder" being closed by snow in the winters.

cupcake jesus

Was the beginning/driving sequence of the Kubrick version filmed on/near St. Mary Lake in Glacier National Park? Looks awful familiar...

Cheers.

- the Jesus

abintra

Mount Washington Hotel in New Hampshire always reminds me of The Shining.

jfoobar

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.