Josh-da-man

Does the moviegoing public even give two shits about any of these scandals?

I don't think that the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard shitstorm would have much, if any, impact on a Johnny Depp vehicle like POTC 6. Likewise, I don't know if Miller's current peculiar behavior would have any negative impact on The Flash's bottom line. If anything, it might people curious about the movie.

Tom Cruise's Scientology nuttery doesn't seem to have hurt Top Gun Maverick's box office take even though that's been a running punchline for decades.

B5Erik

There's no way they can shelve this movie, release it on HBO Max, or reshoot all of Miller's scenes.

They just can't.

BUT they CAN reshoot the ending. Do a multiverse switch, and bring in the TV Flash to take over the role going forward. Something happens and Miller's Flash is gone forever. Replaced by someone else from an alternate reality. A better reality.

All they need to do is reshoot about 10-15 minutes worth. A substantial cost, but far less than reshooting the whole thing, and it gets them out from under the nightmare that is Ezra Miller.

Runaway

They could just recast the role for the next movie, without any explaination. The MCU recasted to characters early on and no one cared.

d2cheer

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This place means nothing in the grade scheme of anything. I will still stand by most have no clue about what is happening.


Exactly the point...no one really cares.

dex14

This is what I’ve been saying. No, they do not.

Draven

But again, the movie is a long way away. Miller’s behavior WILL continue to deteriorate and the WB will be unable to market this movie that apparently no one knows about or cares about.

So if people don’t know what’s happening with this movie - then how will they know to go see it to make it the blockbuster the studio wants it to be? It’s not all ignorant people - and every story that comes out damages the potential box office more and more.

B5Erik

Not the main character. Yeah, they recast Rhodey. A supporting character. Big deal. It's not like they recast Steve Rogers or Tony Stark.

If they recast Barry Allen (and they should), then filming a new ending for this movie where it's suddenly the Barry Allen from the TV series in a multiverse change of character would make more sense than just, "Oh, here's the main character played in continuity by a different actor." Addressing the change now would set up the following movie much better than just changing out the actor in between movies.

B5Erik

True. Unless word of mouth comes out that you can almost literally see the guy get fired at the end...

Runaway

Did you like Edward Norton's performance in Thor: Ragnarok?

Draven

Incredible Hulk was so early in the MCU that they could make that shift without too much trouble.

Miller has already played The Flash in three movies (four if you count the Snyder cut) and showed up on the Arrow and Peacemaker too.

The Snyderverse Flash is done after this movie. If they ever make one again, they’ll just reboot it.

Runaway

Recasting Ezra Miller would cause much trouble? I really think you're overastimating everything concerning Ezra Miller. Yes, he played the Flash in three movies, two of the appearances were nohing more than cameos, same thing goes for the TV shows. So he was in Justice League and will be in The Flash. People still don't know him. People don't care about a bar fight in Iceland two years ago or being an awful guest in Berlin in February. It's just our bubble.

Draven

We’ll see!

TGM

I still say that this movie will never see a theatrical release.

Decker

Do people care about Armie Hammer did (or even have any actual idea what it even was besides raving on a video clip about being " a cannibal") ? Probably not. But besides a performance in Death on the Nile that was too big a part to reshoot, and shot years ago, he's been MIA from the big and small screen for years and is considered unemployable. Miller's situation is far worse that that one. It's an issue for sure.

Runaway

But that's not because of public outrage, it's because the studio decided to can him and it was about a sex thing, a topic Americans can't handle.

Timber

How do you sell a Flash movie showing very little of Barry Allen in the trailer and no promotion from the man playing the lead character? Sure the people that are pre-inclined to see the movie will see it but they're not getting and fence sitters.

Mike86

That’s why I say just rebrand it as a Batman movie. Probably not the ideal situation but since Batman seems to play a big role it might be able to work and save this film if they insist on releasing it theatrically.

Call it Batman: Flashpoint and have Keaton and Affleck do the talk show circuit/interviews.

Downplay Ezra Miller as much as possible, and then I agree maybe reshoot an ending where his version of The Flash disappears and a new one is in his place.

fujishig

I mean, I'm as big a Flash fan as anyone (though I readily admit I'm way more of a Wally West fan than Barry Allen) and this has killed my desire to see it in the theater. On Max, sure.

Mike86

I’ll still see it no matter what. For Keaton and to a lesser extent Affleck. Not letting dipshit ruin seeing Keaton as Batman again.

Eric F

Crisis storyline incoming! They'll kill off Ezra Miller's Flash and bring in Wally West...

Jason

Agreed. I'm so damn tired of recasting being seen needing an explanation. Just end the TV series and bring over Grant or whoever and move on. The problems they're having over in Wakanda should serve as a warning as to how not to replace a character.

Jason

Since the whole thing is a thinly veiled excuse to make a multiverse Batman movie, why not bring in Adam West?

Jason

Perfect idea. Release it on HBO Max as Batman: Flashpoint and then make a real Flash movie that focuses on Flash. We've had quite enough momma's boys moping from the DCEU.

ViewAskewbian

Well, outside of the entire he's dead thing...

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